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02-20-2010, 08:05 AM
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I would do it in a heartbeat.

Colorado wouldn't, though.
Exactly......don't forget Anderson is playing very well for them...and cheap...

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02-20-2010, 08:16 AM
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Like the witless fools who failed to select him for last year's Team Canada WJC team? Hockey Canada at it's pathetic best.

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Those witless fools who won Gold? Trolling at its pathetic best.

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02-20-2010, 08:47 AM
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Just thought I'd mention he's 5'11 not exactly a huge center
Duchesne doesn't need to be 6"4 to dominate this game

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Duchesne is the next Sakic, Price is the next Trevor Kidd.

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02-20-2010, 09:13 AM
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Duchesne is the next Sakic, Price is the next Trevor Kidd.

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02-20-2010, 09:47 AM
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Colorado answers phone, hears this trade proposal and says:


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If you guys want a center from Colorado I'd recommend something like:

Hammer, Price, ATit, Rights to Plek
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Stastny, Liles, 2nd

Works kinda well capwise. Gives you guys a 2nd for UFA rights to Plek (more than you'd get), and a really good, young center.

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02-20-2010, 10:19 AM
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If you guys want a center from Colorado I'd recommend something like:

Hammer, Price, ATit, Rights to Plek
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Stastny, Liles, 2nd

Works kinda well capwise. Gives you guys a 2nd for UFA rights to Plek (more than you'd get), and a really good, young center.
Who's ATit

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02-20-2010, 10:21 AM
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I don't think they trade him for anyone outside of the big 3. Its rare to have a young player of caliber who genuinely loved your team before he played for them (Duchene was a known obessive Avs fan, to the point where he knew the entire team's stick and curve).

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02-20-2010, 10:22 AM
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We'd have to trade both Price and Halak to have a chance at landing Duchene.

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02-20-2010, 10:34 AM
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We'd have to trade both Price and Halak to have a chance at landing Duchene.
And then some. There's actually no way that Colorado trades Duchene

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02-20-2010, 10:36 AM
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Would I trade to get Duchesne of course who wouldnt
Would colorado trade him.... probably only for ovy or crosby

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02-20-2010, 11:27 AM
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Duchene was great scouting? More like if they didn't pick him 3rd overall they were ****ing ********.
You mean like when we took AK instead of Jeff Carter? Funny how that works, Colorado has phenomenal scouting, they have a great track record to prove it in the first round.

You make it sound like if Timming were in that position he would choose Duchene, without any doubt.

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02-20-2010, 11:31 AM
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You mean like when we took AK instead of Jeff Carter? Funny how that works, Colorado has phenomenal scouting, they have a great track record to prove it in the first round.

You make it sound like if Timming were in that position he would choose Duchene, without any doubt.
Im sorry but that was a dumb post
1st off Carter was taken 11th overall meaning 10 other teams passed on him
also for last years draft there was the big 3, tavares, hedman and duchene
Colorado had the easiest job bc they got to take whoever fell to them and that was it

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Colorado had the easiest job bc they got to take whoever fell to them and that was it
I think Colorado might have even picked Duchene if they won the lottery.

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02-20-2010, 12:14 PM
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Duchesne is the next Sakic, Price is the next Trevor Kidd.

/end thread.
Typical bandwagon fan. I guess if it had been up to you Luongo and Fluery should've
been turfed as well because they did not dominate the NHL until a few years into their career.


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02-20-2010, 12:15 PM
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As everybody said, there is no way in hell Colo makes this deal now ; but I wonder if we could have pulled it off last year at the draft, before they saw Duchene play great at the NHL level and Price got outshined by Halak again ? Think they might have considered it then ? anyway noo way Bob would have done it though...

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02-20-2010, 12:20 PM
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Perhaps I place too much value on Price - but how many goalies his age have started that many NHL games and accomplished so much before making the NHL. I still think he's going be a franchise goalie - he has great numbers on what I consider a weak (injury plagued) roster.
But a few of you have pointed out it's tough to trade a goalie (limited market out there). I guess I'm just trying to get a better idea on what kind of value he has.

Would Edmonton's 1st round pick be more realistic or do you consider that as even more valuable than Duchene?

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Perhaps I place too much value on Price - but how many goalies his age have started that many NHL games and accomplished so much before making the NHL. I still think he's going be a franchise goalie - he has great numbers on what I consider a weak (injury plagued) roster.
But a few of you have pointed out it's tough to trade a goalie (limited market out there). I guess I'm just trying to get a better idea on what kind of value he has.

Would Edmonton's 1st round pick be more realistic or do you consider that as even more valuable than Duchene?
Unless there is extreme overpayment by a team both goalies should remain as Habs.

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02-20-2010, 12:44 PM
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O'Reily(?) had more points then Duchene in the first 30 games of the year.
O'Reily>>>Duchene






To be honest if I was really confident with Halak I would make the trade but as of now I'm not.


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02-20-2010, 01:01 PM
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I agree they'd never do the trade, but why are we in a sad state? I'm not a huge fan of the team(i'd rather sell, gain assets, draft younger, more skilled, top ranked players and rebuild around them) but I don't see how Colorado rejecting a Price for Duchene trade makes us sad.

I think Col would reject Toews for Duchene to be honest.

LyricalLyricist

Perhaps I left you with the wrong impression in my post.

IMHO - the Habs are in a "sad state" (i.e. arguably, (curently) not a good team, very few if any top notch prospects in the organization, have been spinning their wheels - so to speak - since about '93) and the short term future does not appear (at least to me) to be promising.

All of the above has nothing to do with the fact that the Avs would not likely be interested in trading Duchene for Price.

The fact that the Habs - at least in recent memory - have been unable to aquire a young talented centre as (potentially) good as a guy like Duchene - combined with the fact that a lot of their more recently drafted players look more like potential 3rd -4th liners and or 5th - 6th defenseman - is what really (imho) makes this taem/ organization look SAD!

Consider that the Avs finished the '08 - '09 season near the bottom of the entire league - and one season later - with the youngest roster in the entire NHL, they currently sit 8th overall in the entire league - while the Habs sit 21st overall in league standings.........so what has Gainey accomplished in nearly 7 years?



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02-20-2010, 01:09 PM
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LyricalLyricist

Perhaps I left you with the wrong impression in my post.

IMHO - the Habs are in a "sad state" (i.e. arguably, (curently) not a good team, very few if any top notch prospects in the organization, have been spinning their wheels - so to speak - since about '93) and the short term future does not appear (at least to me) to be promising.

All of the above has nothing to do with the fact that the Avs would not likely be interested in trading Duchene for Price.

The fact that the Habs - at least in recent memory - have been unable to aquire a young talented centre as (potentially) good as a guy like Duchene - combined with the fact that a lot of their more recently drafted players look more like potential 3rd -4th liners and or 5th - 6th defenseman - is what really (imho) makes this taem/ organization look SAD!

Consider that the Avs finished the '08 - '09 season near the bottom of the entire league - and one season later - with the youngest roster in the entire NHL, they currently sit 8th overall in the entire league - while the Habs sit 21st overall in league standings.........so what has Gainey accomplished in nearly 7 years?



What makes you say that next year when everyone is heathly and used to playing with eachother we won't be competitive?

If everything goes well next year we will have-

Cammy:40G/75-80Pts
A.kostitsyn:25-30G/50-60Pts
Gionta: 25G/60Pts
Gomez: 15G/65-70Pts
Pouliot:20G/45-50Pts
Pleks:20G/70Pts
Markov:15G/65Pts
Subban:10G/40Pts
Price: 30wins, .915-.920 S%,2.40 GAA

As you can see with a healthy roster we are more then competitve,and IIRC Colorado hasn't really been hit as hard by injuries

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02-20-2010, 02:00 PM
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What makes you say that next year when everyone is heathly and used to playing with eachother we won't be competitive?

If everything goes well next year we will have-

Cammy:40G/75-80Pts
A.kostitsyn:25-30G/50-60Pts
Gionta: 25G/60Pts
Gomez: 15G/65-70Pts
Pouliot:20G/45-50Pts
Pleks:20G/70Pts
Markov:15G/65Pts
Subban:10G/40Pts
Price: 30wins, .915-.920 S%,2.40 GAA

As you can see with a healthy roster we are more then competitve,and IIRC Colorado hasn't really been hit as hard by injuries
That's if all players actually play to their top end potential, and we have no injuries. That amount of luck barely ever happens on any team. There is almost always 1+ players under performing and/or 1+ important players getting injured for a significant period of time.

Not to mention most of the players you mentioned would be having career years with seasons like that or that re-signing Plekanec is far from a sure thing.

Also Gomez won't put up 70 pts next season, you can book it and re-open this thread in a year. I'd be extremely surprised if he did.

ND irish is absolutely right. The state the habs are in is really sad. Even with all of their players playing to their best and us not getting hit with the injury bug, we wouldn't even have a top spot assured in our division.

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