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02-22-2010, 04:29 PM
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Seriously, I know he sucked the bed on the USA game but just give Brodeur the net...

He did that his whole career, find a way to win and he is extremely good at that.

No need to rush him out of Olympic town for a round robin game.
You have a valid point but I think at this point the right thing to do is to give Luongo the net. Brodeur was given the opportunity and unfortunately did not play at his best. He's also not having a great year. Luongo is arguably just as good if not better so its not like we're putting in an inferior goaltender if we put him in now.

I think Luongo deserves a chance.

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You have a valid point but I think at this point the right thing to do is to give Luongo the net. Brodeur was given the opportunity and unfortunately did not play at his best. He's also not having a great year. Luongo is arguably just as good if not better so its not like we're putting in an inferior goaltender if we put him in now.

I think Luongo deserves a chance.
Me too. Overtime against the Swiss, loss against the Americans... give Bobby Lu the net back and hope that change is one of the cogs in the upward momentum machine.

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Me too. Overtime against the Swiss, loss against the Americans... give Bobby Lu the net back and hope that change is one of the cogs in the upward momentum machine.
Seriously, Luongo?

-Nobody remember WJC gold medal game against Russia?
-Finland / Canada game in the World Cup where he basically gave Finland 3 chances to come back in the game..
-or 7 goals in game 7 last playoffs?

He never won anything significant since Pee-Wee.

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02-22-2010, 05:07 PM
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Seriously, Luongo?

-Nobody remember WJC gold medal game against Russia?
-Finland / Canada game in the World Cup where he basically gave Finland 3 chances to come back in the game..
-or 7 goals in game 7 last playoffs?

He never won anything significant since Pee-Wee.
Not that it has any relevance to the decision that needs to be made today, but Luongo was the only reason Canada even had a chance in that Jr game. They were outshot 40-18 and he took it to OT. And he was named the best goaltender of that tournament.

And if you're going to talk about crapping the bed last playoffs, Brodeur was even worse.

Luongo is the only one who can help this team now. Marty had his chance and blew it.

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Call me crazy, but I seriously have more faith in Price than either of the 3 Canadian goalies.
I mean there's fanboys...and then there's fanboys. When was the last time price faced a team of allstars? Do you have any real life friends? Why don't you try telling them half the **** you post here and give it a second for them to realise that you're actually being serious when you say that Carey Price is a better goalie than Martin Brodeur and watch their reaction.

What has Price done in the last 2 years to deserve anything over decorated stanley cup champions and the best goalie in the history of the NHL? Brodeur made some great saves. Take away the empty net and Brodeurs 2 mistakes and it's 3-2 Canada. It almost seems like Brodeur is trying to do TOO much. He just needs to keep it simple. Maybe one of the reasons is that he doesn't have faith in the defensive pylon known as Pronger. Did you ever think about that?

I don't want to be mean but I am going to be VERY VERY honest with you. If anybody is going to run Price out of town it is going to be people like you putting undue pressure and expectations on him.

It's going to be interesting to see if they come back with Brodeur. I know the consensus is that people want Luongo in nets and I have no problem with that. I think that this loss to the US is actually a blessing in disguise.


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Seriously, Luongo?

-Nobody remember WJC gold medal game against Russia?
-Finland / Canada game in the World Cup where he basically gave Finland 3 chances to come back in the game..
-or 7 goals in game 7 last playoffs?

He never won anything significant since Pee-Wee.
First time for everything.

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In the Swiss game, were those goals really that bad? A "Hab"-it we have on this board is forgetting the amazing saves that keep it a one goal game. He made those, quite a few times. While i'm not 100% set on Brodeur, the goal is not to do what is morally right, it's to do what will allow us to win, even if it's not popular. If Marty thinks he can do the job, I think he will do it when it really really counts. I like Luongo, I just don't like these changes when the tournament is on the line.

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In the Swiss game, were those goals really that bad? A "Hab"-it we have on this board is forgetting the amazing saves that keep it a one goal game. He made those, quite a few times. While i'm not 100% set on Brodeur, the goal is not to do what is morally right, it's to do what will allow us to win, even if it's not popular. If Marty thinks he can do the job, I think he will do it when it really really counts. I like Luongo, I just don't like these changes when the tournament is on the line.
Brodeur is a great goalie and we'd be okay going into the next game with him too. Luongo though is probably just as good and has had a better season.

Marty was given an opportunity and unfortunately had a rough game. It doesn't mean that he sucks but I think that bringing in Luongo at this point is probably the right way to go. At least let him show what he can do against West Germany.

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Seriously, Luongo?

-Nobody remember WJC gold medal game against Russia?
-Finland / Canada game in the World Cup where he basically gave Finland 3 chances to come back in the game..
-or 7 goals in game 7 last playoffs?

He never won anything significant since Pee-Wee.
Comon Brodeur is playing like crap and right now we need to mix things up,he is playing on home ice who knows the coaching staff needs to try different things and going with Luongo is the right decision IMO.

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Comon Brodeur is playing like crap and right now we need to mix things up,he is playing on home ice who knows the coaching staff needs to try different things and going with Luongo is the right decision IMO.
Yeah you're probably right.

Plus Luongo size and shoulderpad can really help against those russian lasers.

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Yeah you're probably right.

Plus Luongo size and shoulderpad can really help against those russian lasers.
The russian lasers didn't phase Vokoun too much. And I DO believe Bobby Lou is better than Vokown.

Brodeur has been a myth since 2006. He's been ok, not stellar in important games since the Turino games. In the playoffs, he's been outright bad. Brodeur has seen his best days. Let Luongo try it.

Having Brodeur there as the netminder is as bad as having Pronger on every 3 shifts.

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Luongo's size and butterfly style is definitely an advantage. As long as they don't give up breakaways (Luongo is easily deked) or go to a shoot-out (his weakness), he should do well. A lot of the pucks hit him because of his size too.

This is the way the "new" NHL is going nowadays. Big, technical, butterfly goalies tend to do well (see Hillier, Price, Miller, etc).

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Luongo's size and butterfly style is definitely an advantage. As long as they don't give up breakaways (Luongo is easily deked) or go to a shoot-out (his weakness), he should do well. A lot of the pucks hit him because of his size too.

This is the way the "new" NHL is going nowadays. Big, technical, butterfly goalies tend to do well (see Hillier, Price, Miller, etc).
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The russian lasers didn't phase Vokoun too much. And I DO believe Bobby Lou is better than Vokown.

Brodeur has been a myth since 2006. He's been ok, not stellar in important games since the Turino games. In the playoffs, he's been outright bad. Brodeur has seen his best days. Let Luongo try it.

Having Brodeur there as the netminder is as bad as having Pronger on every 3 shifts.
Brodeur looks like Roy in 98 at Nagano, but even worst off his game.

Brodeur might've beaten Roy for regular season records, but the playoff king will remain for some time and it won't be Brodeur who'll beat him. He's one Stanley cup, 3 Conn Smythes and 60-something wins away. He'll never reach it with his recent playoff record.

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Brodeur looks like Roy in 98 at Nagano, but even worst off his game.
Are you kidding? Roy wasn't the problem at Nagano. He was literally inches apart from Hasek at that tournament; the shot that beat Roy in the fateful shootout hit the post and went in. Lindros beat Hasek but hit the crossbar. A couple inches on those shots and Nagano would've had a very different ending.

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Are you kidding? Roy wasn't the problem at Nagano. He was literally inches apart from Hasek at that tournament; the shot that beat Roy in the fateful shootout hit the post and went in. Lindros beat Hasek but hit the crossbar. A couple inches on those shots and Nagano would've had a very different ending.
a few inches the other way and lindros would have missed completely

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