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Canadian lines (Who do you want to play with Crosby?)

View Poll Results: Who should be with Crosby?
Nash 87 48.33%
Iginla 108 60.00%
Bergeron 12 6.67%
Toews 40 22.22%
Marleau 12 6.67%
Staal 41 22.78%
Heatley 38 21.11%
Richards 10 5.56%
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02-16-2010, 03:55 PM
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I am 100% interested in seeing how they play together for that very reason. I can see why Crosby and Bergeron clicked in the past considering Bergeron can actually keep up with Sid mentally and does what Sid is hoping his linemates will do. Add in that he's a right handed shot with loads of talent and they are made to play together. I'd do just about anything to bring Patrice over to the Pens.
Let's start a couple rumors that Patrice Bergeron is best friends with Max Talbot and Kris Letang and that he recently said that he wishes Boston had "more French speaking players" and that he "really respects that Crosby learned to speak French".

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02-16-2010, 03:57 PM
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No he isn't, and it's not really all that close.
Actually, if he's not (and I'm not sure he is) then it's still pretty damn close. Either way, he should definitely be on the PP.

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02-16-2010, 04:08 PM
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no Iginla on the PP??? he is arguably the best pure sniper on the team... that is sheer stupidity if true
eh...I think Heatley and Nash are better goalscorers at this point.

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yes the guy with the most goals of any player in the last decade is not even close to being the best pure sniper on the team... good call there...
It's a shame the games aren't being played last decade.

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02-16-2010, 04:09 PM
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Actually, if he's not (and I'm not sure he is) then it's still pretty damn close. Either way, he should definitely be on the PP.
Over who ??

The San Jose line has been excellent on the PP this year, so they aren't getting broken up.

Richards, Crosby and Nash are all better than Iginla on the PP.

Iginla's best chance would be to take the place of Perry, along with Getzlaf and Staal, but when you factor in Perry's compatibility with Getzlaf, Iginla probably loses out.

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02-16-2010, 04:14 PM
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I wonder with two viable finishers on his line would Crosby go back to using an uncurved stick to maximize the playmaking potential?

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02-16-2010, 04:36 PM
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eh...I think Heatley and Nash are better goalscorers at this point.



It's a shame the games aren't being played last decade.
I said arguably... Nash has 1 more goal than Iginla so far this season... and Heatley has 5 more... I know 5 sounds like alot but there is also alot of difference in taking feeds from Thornton than a rotation of Jokinen, Conroy, Boyd and Stajan... if all things were equal (meaning hypothetically say they all had the same centerman) you can bet your ass Iginla would be right up there with Nash and Heatley... in fact I wouldn't be shocked to see a 3way tie... its very close between the 3 and arguments can be made for all of them

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Let's start a couple rumors that Patrice Bergeron is best friends with Max Talbot and Kris Letang and that he recently said that he wishes Boston had "more French speaking players" and that he "really respects that Crosby learned to speak French".
Done! Once we start this it'll be a matter of days before we see the Eklund e4 saying that the Pens are scouting the Bruins heavily and Bergeron is the expected target!!!

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Over who ??

The San Jose line has been excellent on the PP this year, so they aren't getting broken up.

Richards, Crosby and Nash are all better than Iginla on the PP.

Iginla's best chance would be to take the place of Perry, along with Getzlaf and Staal, but when you factor in Perry's compatibility with Getzlaf, Iginla probably loses out.
only a Flyers fan would think Richards is better on the PP than Iginla... sure he has more goals on the PP... but when you consider the quality of offense on each team thats not really surprising

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02-16-2010, 05:49 PM
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I wonder with two viable finishers on his line would Crosby go back to using an uncurved stick to maximize the playmaking potential?
I heard he's actually going to use a right-handed stick to maximize his backhanding potential.

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02-16-2010, 06:15 PM
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I don't think Bergeron will last long on Crosby's wing. I expect Iginla will be in that spot by the end of the Switzerland game. (Note: those fans treating Switzerland like a tune-up will be surprised).

The "chemistry" factor for Crosby and Bergeron stems from their play at the 2005 WJC (keep in mind, a junior tournament) and the 2006 World Championships. There's a major difference in terms of calibre of play between the World Championships and a legit best-on-best like the Olympics.

Bergeron just isn't good enough for that role. Great player. I'd want him out there against Ovechkin on a line with Richards and Morrow/Toews. But on a line with Crosby? I'm not sold.

Everything is as expected. I anticipate that the Shark Club Line and the Staal-Getzlaf-Perry line will remain together throughout the tournament, and on the smaller ice, they'll dominate. But expect changes with the other two lines.

I'm not surprised that Pronger and Niedermayer aren't together. They rarely played together at 5-on-5 in Anaheim. Niedermayer played with Beauchemin on what was the best pairing in the league for nearly two seasons. Watch Niedermayer play, and you can see he really misses the fine all-round game that Beauchemin had from 2005-2007.

I wouldn't be surprised if Nieds winds up as a No. 7 defenceman/PP specialist. (Keep in mind that all 13 forwards and seven defencemen are dressed each game). Nieds hasn't played well this year. But maybe this Team Canada will be the right situation for him. He won't have to play 26 minutes a night. He won't have to carry this defence. He can focus on his role, and not have to worry about being the unquestioned No. 1 defenceman.

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I don't think Bergeron will last long on Crosby's wing. I expect Iginla will be in that spot by the end of the Switzerland game. (Note: those fans treating Switzerland like a tune-up will be surprised).

The "chemistry" factor for Crosby and Bergeron stems from their play at the 2005 WJC (keep in mind, a junior tournament) and the 2006 World Championships. There's a major difference in terms of calibre of play between the World Championships and a legit best-on-best like the Olympics.

Bergeron just isn't good enough for that role. Great player. I'd want him out there against Ovechkin on a line with Richards and Morrow/Toews. But on a line with Crosby? I'm not sold.
You didn't see the Red/White summer scrimmage did you? Iginla didn't work out with Crosby and Nash...great fit on paper, not a great fit in actuality.

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I like the look of that Staal-Getzlaf-Perry line. :O

It should be illegal to have that much clutch on one line.

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only a Flyers fan would think Richards is better on the PP than Iginla... sure he has more goals on the PP... but when you consider the quality of offense on each team thats not really surprising
Richards is better on the PP than Iginla.

Flyers have been a top 5 power play team for 3 seasons now, with Richards as our best power play player. He's the biggest reason that the Flyers have had a consistantly great power play in recent years.

Iginla is better offensively at even strength, but Richards is better on the power play.

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I love bergeron but I have to admit a Nash-Crosby-St.Louis line sounds so much better.

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Ahem... arguably the best pure sniper

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flood gates are opening !!!!!!!!!!
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Am I the only one shocked with Bergeron on the first line?
i think he'll end up on the 4th line by the time important games come around

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Richards is better on the PP than Iginla.

Flyers have been a top 5 power play team for 3 seasons now, with Richards as our best power play player. He's the biggest reason that the Flyers have had a consistantly great power play in recent years.

Iginla is better offensively at even strength, but Richards is better on the power play.
no. what canada is looking for on the pp is a shot. richards doesnt have a shot like iginlas. when your surrounded by talent, you need a shot.

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Team Canada Lineups Going Forward??

Since tonight nobody really seemed to get it going IMO and people cant blame Perry, sure he maybe misplayed it, but that was a spectacular play by kesler, perry was a right handed shot and just tried to turn off the glass but waited a sec too long. anyways... why not try something along the lines of these?

Heatly Crosby Iginla
Perry Getzlaf Nash
Richards Taews Marleau
Staal Thorton Morrow
Bergeron

Doughty Keith
Niedermayer Pronger (this so soctt will make up for chris's lack of speed + chemiesty in anaheim)
Weber Boyle

Luongo
Brodeur

what you guysthink??

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Staal-Crosby-Iginla
Nash-Thornton-Heatly
Morrow-Toews-Richards
Marleau-Getzlaf-Perry

Doughty-Weber
Seabrook-Keith
Pronger-Boyle

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Bergeron, Neidermayer, Brodeur scratched permanently

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Keep everything the same, but scratch Brodeur, Perry and Pronger.


Canada looked good tonight except for those guys, they should have no problem going forward if they can play like they did tonight and get decent goaltending. Thank god for Ryan Miller.

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Keep everything the same, but scratch Brodeur, Perry and Pronger.


Canada looked good tonight except for those guys, they should have no problem going forward if they can play like they did tonight and get decent goaltending. Thank god for Ryan Miller.
Perry had a bad night along with alot of other Canadians.. Thorton played a heck of alot worse than Perry. That goal by Kelser was amazing i admit it. He made a mistake, so be it. it didnt cost them the gold medal or anything..

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Yeah, I agree with the last poster scratch Broduer, Pronger and Perry. It's arguable but possibly Dan Boyle as well.

I can't believe someone said scratch Seabrook over Pronger, albeit neither are playing well at all but Seabrook has at least shown signs of improving on this team and not being a waste of space like Pronger.

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Staal-Crosby-Iginla
Nash-Thornton-Heatley
Morrow-Toews-Richards
Marleau-Getzlaf-Perry

Doughty-Weber
Seabrook-Keith
Pronger-Boyle

Luongo
Fleury

Bergeron, Neidermayer, Brodeur scratched permanently
This is very close to what I was thinking, except I would have Rick Nash with Getzlaf and Perry. And I would keep the San Jose line intact.

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