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02-22-2010, 07:34 PM
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i predict mueller becomes a hab. as much as we want it to happen, mtl never makes a big splash at the trade deadlines therefore they get mueller, who i believe will breakout like pouliot.

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02-22-2010, 07:53 PM
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More realistic and less expensive: M-A Pouliot

I love his potential
actually not a bad target... he's had injury problems that have impacted his development, but he does have intriguing potential.

not a massive guy, but he does play with some spunk.

could be an interesting reclamation project a la pouliot, wouldn't cost much in a trade imo, and he'd be a cheap cap hit.

i wouldn't be mad at all seeing him brought in and pencilled in to the 3rd line centre role for next year.

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02-22-2010, 07:56 PM
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To get Berglund:

Andrei Kostitsyn + Sergei Kostitsyn + pick or a prospect

To get Staal:

Andrei Markov + P.K. Subban + pick or a prospect

To get Sharp:

Jaroslav Halak + Tomas Plekanec + pick or a prospect

To get Horton:

Andrei Kostitsyn + Sergei Kostitsyn + pick or a prospect

Man, I wish you were the Habs GM. If I was a Toronto fan, that is. Too funny.

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That's pretty accurate. Actually I'm not even sure the Berglund one is enough.
This place is full of funny people.

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02-22-2010, 07:59 PM
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To get Staal:

Andrei Markov + P.K. Subban + pick or a prospect
I would not trade that for Eric AND Jordan, let alone just Jordan

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02-22-2010, 07:59 PM
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actually not a bad target... he's had injury problems that have impacted his development, but he does have intriguing potential.

not a massive guy, but he does play with some spunk.

could be an interesting reclamation project a la pouliot, wouldn't cost much in a trade imo, and he'd be a cheap cap hit.

i wouldn't be mad at all seeing him brought in and pencilled in to the 3rd line centre role for next year.
I have NHL center ice and ive been watching him closely since he came back. The guy has slick hands, good IQ, very responsible defensively, hes 6'2 and plays with an edge. Looks like hes wasting his time in EDM.

Ironically, i had my eyes on Pouliot before he became a Hab and thought he could be awsome for us and it happened. I see the same thing in M-A Pouliot.

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02-22-2010, 08:06 PM
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Our top6 is fine. We just need to size up our bottom 6. Colby Armstrong and Crombeen would do a nice job of making our team that much tougher, especially if we bring up White .

No need to touch our top6, it's fine the way it is.

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02-22-2010, 08:37 PM
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To get Berglund:

Andrei Kostitsyn + Sergei Kostitsyn + pick or a prospect

To get Staal:

Andrei Markov + P.K. Subban + pick or a prospect

To get Sharp:

Jaroslav Halak + Tomas Plekanec + pick or a prospect

To get Horton:

Andrei Kostitsyn + Sergei Kostitsyn + pick or a prospect
rejean houle is that you

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02-22-2010, 08:43 PM
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Big centers.. some are very expensive:

Ryan Kesler - Vancouver Canucks (RFA)
Martin Hanzal - Phoenix Coyotes (RFA)
Logan Couture - San Jose Sharks (very good, smart player - expensive )
Colin Wilson - Nashville Predators (very good, smart player - expensive)
Brandon Sutter - Carolina Hurricanes (very good, smart player - expensive)
Patrik Berglund - St. Louis Blues (very talented sleeper)
Jacob Josefson - New Jersey Devils (not too big, but a good 2way center)
Viktor Tikhonov - Phoenix Coyotes (in conflict with Phoenix, but wants to play in NHL)

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I have NHL center ice and ive been watching him closely since he came back. The guy has slick hands, good IQ, very responsible defensively, hes 6'2 and plays with an edge. Looks like hes wasting his time in EDM.

Ironically, i had my eyes on Pouliot before he became a Hab and thought he could be awsome for us and it happened. I see the same thing in M-A Pouliot.
Would be nice to get in a trade JF Jacques and MA Pouliot taht would be 2 hometown guy and they would upgrade our bottom six alot and add some grit and size and the two have some upside.

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02-22-2010, 09:36 PM
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Possible centers

Martin Hanzal and Tikhonov would be good options. I would take a chance with Mueller. He seems to be one of those players who is about to breakthrough. I would make the offer to the Blues for Beglund. Plekanec is a very good player. But the Habs need to have size at center.

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02-22-2010, 09:46 PM
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To STL: Halak + Subban + pick

To MTL: Berglund + Pietrangelo + pick

Thoughts? Anything should be added?

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The only move I see the Habs making at the deadline is trading Plekanec for probably a draft pick and a young prospect. I predict Gauthier to be like Andre Savard.

If they make a big splash I see Price moving for probably Perron.

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02-22-2010, 10:00 PM
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The only move I see the Habs making at the deadline is trading Plekanec for probably a draft pick and a young prospect. I predict Gauthier to be like Andre Savard.

If they make a big splash I see Price moving for probably Perron.
This is the way it works

Halak + ? = Perron's,etc

Price + ? + Johnson's,Ryan's,Kessel's,etc

So I doubt we Move Price for Perron when IMO we have 6 better forwards in our top 6 then Perron


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02-22-2010, 10:04 PM
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i predict mueller becomes a hab. as much as we want it to happen, mtl never makes a big splash at the trade deadlines therefore they get mueller, who i believe will breakout like pouliot.
PM said Mueller is really religious and that hockey isnt his top priority.

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02-22-2010, 10:07 PM
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Straight from Pierre McGuire on the Team 990 the day before the Olympics opened.
Ah Pierre McGuire...the man who would probably argue that Staal is better than Malkin.

Seriously...Andrei Markov alone would get you more than Jordan Staal.

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02-22-2010, 10:14 PM
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I agree that Pouliot will be switched to center. No deal will be done to acquire one.

And I don't foresee any trades that will change our forwards - unless we move the K-bros. Look for another tweak at the defense because WE need to free up some cap space in the years to come to ensure chemistry in our group of forwards. The next overall at the forward position will be when Kristo and Leblanc are NHL ready.

That being said, look for a roster in the target of:
Cammalleri - Pouliot - Pacioretty
Pyatt - Gomez - Gionta
SK - Pleks - AK
White - Moore - Laps

Markov - X
Subban - Gorges
Y - O'Byrne
Bergeron

Hamhuis (NAS) and Morrisonn (WAS) will be UFA's and we still have the prospect of bringing Emelin to North America.

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02-22-2010, 10:17 PM
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I agree that Pouliot will be switched to center. No deal will be done to acquire one.

And I don't foresee any trades that will change our forwards - unless we move the K-bros. Look for another tweak at the defense because WE need to free up some cap space in the years to come to ensure chemistry in our group of forwards. The next overall at the forward position will be when Kristo and Leblanc are NHL ready.

That being said, look for a roster in the target of:
Cammalleri - Pouliot - Pacioretty
Pyatt - Gomez - Gionta
SK - Pleks - AK
White - Moore - Laps

Markov - X
Subban - Gorges
Y - O'Byrne
Bergeron

Hamhuis (NAS) and Morrisonn (WAS) will be UFA's and we still have the prospect of bringing Emelin to North America.
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02-22-2010, 10:25 PM
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Ah Pierre McGuire...the man who would probably argue that Staal is better than Malkin.

Seriously...Andrei Markov alone would get you more than Jordan Staal.
And you're basing this on....

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02-22-2010, 10:32 PM
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To STL: Halak + Subban + pick

To MTL: Berglund + Pietrangelo + pick

Thoughts? Anything should be added?
The Blues would never do that but as an Habs fan and even though i really love Subban i would pull the trigger on this.

We finally get the big (and very young and full of potential) center with skill we need in the system and while we lose a very valuable prospect in Subban we replace him with a guy who has as much if not more potential than he does. That and we finally fix the goalie controversy issue by including Halak in the trade.

That's a win in my book but as i said i seriously doubt that St-Louis does this as Berglund and Pietrangelo are imho two of their top 3 best prospects (other one being E.Johnson) and their potential combined >>>>>>>> Halak + Subban.

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The Blues would never do that but as an Habs fan and even though i really love Subban i would pull the trigger on this.

We finally get the big (and very young and full of potential) center with skill we need in the system and while we lose a very valuable prospect in Subban we replace him with a guy who has as much if not more potential than he does. That and we finally fix the goalie controversy issue by including Halak in the trade.

That's a win in my book but as i said i seriously doubt that St-Louis does this as Berglund and Pietrangelo are imho their two best prospects and their potential combined >>>>>>>> Halak + Subban.
How about we add a prospect like Weber from Montreal's side?

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How about we add a prospect like Weber from Montreal's side?
I still don't think they would do it.

The Blues are in rebuilding mode and guys like Berglund and Pietrangelo are very valuable assets to have in such a situation. They are young , cheap , full of potential and along with guys like Johnson , Perron , Oshie ect form a good young core to build a team upon. They have no reason to trade them hence why i think any team who want any of them would have to overpay badly to the point that it just wouldn't be worth it at that point.

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And you're basing this on....
The fact that Markov is a top 10 dman in the league and one of the best puck movers? Much harder to find than someone of Staal's caliber.

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And you're basing this on....
Staal is only in the middle of the pack on the totem pole in the top forwards in the the league, he's good but he's not a top guy.

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check this proposal out.. I really like it http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t...&highlight=mtl

from a phoenix fan

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Imagine Horton between Cammy and Kosty on 1 line and Gomez with Pouliot and Gionta on the other, You can't ask alot more better then that imo.
Horton Cammy and AK46 wouldn't really fit as all 3 are primarily shooters. Horton plays the game of a winger like Pouliot.

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