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02-24-2010, 11:31 AM
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I don't really have a backup team. There's a couple teams I like and that I will cheer for once the Habs are out, but none that I really follow.

Here's a couple:

Oilers (always liked them)
Kings (because of Kopitar and Doughty)
Blues (a lot of great young players)
Sharks (always an entertaining team, chokes though)
Avalanche (because of Forsberg and Sakic)
Mighty Ducks (not anymore)

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For me its as follows.

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Washington
L.A.
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02-24-2010, 01:38 PM
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... Gainey and Timmons while some will disagree didn't come through on the 5 year plan. They did make this team a hell of alot better then it has been in years. Some solid NHL talent on the club, some great prospects in the system considering drafting location. For all the years I have followed hockey it was all about the Habs and nothing but. Since Gainey stepped down as GM and his position was taken by Gauthier I got a uneasy feeling. ( Soon to be realized with the deal for Moore ) My point here is I'm not willing to go backwards into the dark days of Hab history. I'm worried that Gauthier based on past history will make bad deals trading youth and prospects to try and advance in a year when reality shows we just aren't good enough anyways.

My question here is who is your secondary team if you have one. I came to the conclusion if Gauthier makes some really bad deals and trades away our youth I could never stop loving my Habs. But I would need another team to cheer for during the dark years...

(...)

... So let me know, who is your second team and why?
As I mentioned here Gainey out...Gauthier in Part II during Gainey’s era (2003-2010), our Habs average overall ranking is 15th – while being top10 in terms of payroll – and they played only 17 playoffs games as the home team.

So I don’t share your feeling when you mentioned "... Since Gainey stepped down as GM and his position was taken by Gauthier I got a uneasy feeling..."; in fact I am happy that Gainey was fired/"stepped down".

I like Gainey (great captain, a calm and level-headed man) but as Montreal’s GM he was average; very average. Gauthier did a great job as Ottawa’s GM and I expect him to do a better job than Gainey. I know it is slightly out of topic but since you decided to phrase your question that way, I thought I needed to address it before actually replying!

That being mentioned... since the Russian quintet/The Russian five (Igor Larionov, Sergei Fedorov, Vyacheslav Kozlov, Vyacheslav Fetisov, Vladimir Konstantinov) my second team has been Detroit. I hate dump and chase hockey so watching them play has always been a pleasure.

The Russian Five in interview

I also like Vancouver a lot: how Vigneautl defended Burrows (the Auger incident; I like it when a coach goes to the frontline for his players), they always seem to have a D squad that can move the puck well, they have a good mix of size and skills... plus they have a half decent goalie!

After Hours Featuring Vancouver Canucks' Head Coach Alain Vigneault

After that, I root for anyone not named the Leafs, Bruins or Flyers!


PS on second thought, my second team is Team Canada at the WJC. International hockey rules!


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and ducks, because of bobby ryan, perry, chips and koivu.

habs numero uno though.

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I like Jonathan toews and the part that he is a little bit from québec. and also I've watch their videos on the blackhawks tv and it is so funny: patrick sharp, adam burish,... you must go see that!

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As I mentioned here Gainey out...Gauthier in Part II during Gainey’s era (2003-2010), our Habs average overall ranking is 15th – while being top10 in terms of payroll – and they played only 17 playoffs games as the home team.

So I don’t share your feeling when you mentioned "... Since Gainey stepped down as GM and his position was taken by Gauthier I got a uneasy feeling..."; in fact I am happy that Gainey was fired/"stepped down".

I like Gainey (great captain, a calm and level-headed man) but as Montreal’s GM he was average; very average. Gauthier did a great job as Ottawa’s GM and I expect him to do a better job than Gainey. I know it is slightly out of topic but since you decided to phrase your question that way, I thought I needed to address it before actually replying!

That being mentioned... since the Russian quintet/The Russian five (Igor Larionov, Sergei Fedorov, Vyacheslav Kozlov, Vyacheslav Fetisov, Vladimir Konstantinov) my second team has been Detroit. I hate dump and chase hockey so watching them play has always been a pleasure.

The Russian Five in interview

I also like Vancouver a lot: how Vigneautl defended Burrows (the Auger incident; I like it when a coach goes to the frontline for his players), they always seem to have a D squad that can move the puck well, they have a good mix of size and skills... plus they have a half decent goalie!

After Hours Featuring Vancouver Canucks' Head Coach Alain Vigneault

After that, I root for anyone not named the Leafs, Bruins or Flyers!


PS on second thought, my second team is Team Canada at the WJC. International hockey rules!
2003-2004 - Regular season - Skaters Previous Page 1 of 1 Next
PLAYER SEASON POS GP G A PTS +/- PIM PP SH GW GT SHOTS
1 Mike Ribeiro 2003-2004 C 81 20 45 65 15 34 7 0 5 1 103
2 Michael Ryder 2003-2004 R 81 25 38 63 10 26 10 0 4 0 215
3 Saku Koivu 2003-2004 C 68 14 41 55 -5 52 5 0 3 0 112
4 Richard Zednik 2003-2004 R 81 26 24 50 5 63 7 0 9 0 218
5 Sheldon Souray 2003-2004 D 63 15 20 35 4 104 6 1 3 0 186
6 Patrice Brisebois 2003-2004 D 71 4 27 31 17 22 2 0 0 0 96
7 Yanic Perreault 2003-2004 C 69 16 15 31 -10 40 5 0 3 0 114
8 Jan Bulis 2003-2004 C 72 13 17 30 -8 30 1 1 4 0 147
9 Andrei Markov 2003-2004 D 69 6 22 28 -2 20 2 0 0 0 105
10 Pierre Dagenais 2003-2004 R 50 17 10 27 15 24 4 0 3 0 149
11 Niklas Sundstrom 2003-2004 R 66 8 12 20 3 18 0 0 2 1 67
12 Francis Bouillon 2003-2004 D 73 2 16 18 1 70 0 0 0 0 86
13 Joé Juneau 2003-2004 C 70 5 10 15 -4 20 2 1 1 0 76
14 Steve Bégin 2003-2004 L 52 10 5 15 6 41 0 1 1 0 91
15 Craig Rivet 2003-2004 D 80 4 8 12 -1 98 2 0 1 0 96
16 Andreas Dackell 2003-2004 R 60 4 8 12 8 10 0 0 0 0 50
17 Jason Ward 2003-2004 R 53 5 7 12 3 21 2 0 1 0 56
18 Stephane Quintal 2003-2004 D 73 3 5 8 10 82 0 0 0 0 86
19 Donald Audette 2003-2004 R 23 3 5 8 -4 16 0 0 0 0 41
20 Jim Dowd 2003-2004 C 14 3 2 5 6 6 0 1 0 0 13
21 Mike Komisarek 2003-2004 D 46 0 4 4 4 34 0 0 0 0 40
22 Chad Kilger 2003-2004 L 36 2 2 4 2 14 0 0 0 0 29
23 Darren Langdon 2003-2004 L 64 0 3 3 -2 135 0 0 0 0 22
24 Alex Kovalev 2003-2004 R 12 1 2 3 -4 12 0 0 1 0 29
25 Marcel Hossa 2003-2004 L 15 1 1 2 -3 8 0 0 0 0 19
26 Ron Hainsey 2003-2004 D 11 1 1 2 3 4 0 0 0 0 11
27 Benoit Gratton 2003-2004 C 4 0 1 1 0 4 0 0 0 0 3
28 Karl Dykhuis 2003-2004 D 9 0 0 0 -2 2 0 0 0 0 6
29 Jozef Balej 2003-2004 R 4 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 0 0 4
30 Gordie Dwyer 2003-2004 L 2 0 0 0 0 7 0 0 0 0 0
31 Tomas Plekanec 2003-2004 C 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
32 Christopher Higgins 2003-2004 C 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Gaineys First Season

2009-2010 - Regular season - Skaters Previous Page 1 of 1 Next
PLAYER SEASON POS GP G A PTS +/- PIM PP SH GW GT SHOTS
1 Tomas Plekanec 2009-2010 C 63 17 43 60 4 36 3 0 3 0 169
2 Mike Cammalleri 2009-2010 L 56 26 22 48 10 14 4 0 4 0 191
3 Scott Gomez 2009-2010 C 59 10 32 42 -5 48 4 0 1 0 131
4 Brian Gionta 2009-2010 R 42 17 14 31 -1 20 7 0 2 0 147
5 Marc-Andre Bergeron 2009-2010 D 51 10 18 28 -11 14 6 0 4 0 97
6 Roman Hamrlik 2009-2010 D 56 6 19 25 -5 46 2 0 1 0 82
7 Andrei Kostitsyn 2009-2010 L 40 12 13 25 3 20 5 0 2 0 86
8 Glen Metropolit 2009-2010 C 57 13 11 24 -1 24 8 0 1 0 101
9 Jaroslav Spacek 2009-2010 D 58 3 16 19 6 44 1 0 0 0 78
10 Andrei Markov 2009-2010 D 26 3 15 18 1 12 3 0 1 0 52
11 Travis Moen 2009-2010 L 63 7 7 14 -6 51 1 2 0 0 86
12 Max Pacioretty 2009-2010 L 52 3 11 14 -5 20 0 0 0 0 74
13 Benoit Pouliot 2009-2010 L 20 11 3 14 4 17 4 0 2 0 54
14 Maxim Lapierre 2009-2010 C 63 5 6 11 -13 54 0 0 0 0 78
15 Sergei Kostitsyn 2009-2010 L 30 2 8 10 0 6 0 0 0 0 35
16 Josh Gorges 2009-2010 D 63 3 5 8 3 37 0 0 1 0 41
17 Paul Mara 2009-2010 D 42 0 8 8 -16 48 0 0 0 0 30
18 Hal Gill 2009-2010 D 49 2 5 7 -6 55 0 0 0 0 35
19 Mathieu Darche 2009-2010 L 13 2 3 5 2 4 0 0 2 0 23
20 Matt D'Agostini 2009-2010 R 40 2 2 4 -12 26 0 0 0 0 48
21 Georges Laraque 2009-2010 R 28 1 2 3 -6 28 0 0 0 0 2
22 Guillaume Latendresse 2009-2010 R 23 2 1 3 -4 4 0 0 0 0 27
23 Ryan O'Byrne 2009-2010 D 36 0 2 2 -6 57 0 0 0 0 16
24 Tom Pyatt 2009-2010 C 22 1 1 2 -10 6 0 0 0 0 30
25 Ryan White 2009-2010 C 16 0 2 2 -6 16 0 0 0 0 5
26 David Desharnais 2009-2010 C 6 0 1 1 -1 0 0 0 0 0 2
27 Kyle Chipchura 2009-2010 C 19 0 0 0 -10 16 0 0 0 0 11
28 Ben Maxwell 2009-2010 L 8 0 0 0 -1 4 0 0 0 0 4
29 Jay Leach 2009-2010 D 7 0 0 0 0 5 0 0 0 0 4
30 Gregory Stewart 2009-2010 L 5 0 0 0 -3 11 0 0 0 0 4
31 Yannick Weber 2009-2010 D 5 0 0 0 -5 4 0 0 0 0 2
32 Mathieu Carle 2009-2010 D 3 0 0 0 1 4 0 0 0 0 2
33 James Wyman 2009-2010 L 3 0 0 0 -2 0 0 0 0 0 0
34 Shawn Belle 2009-2010 D 2 0 0 0 -2 0 0 0 0 0 1

Gaineys Last

Looks like a hell of a job to me. We actually have youth and talent. Let me guess Houle was a great GM also?

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02-24-2010, 02:53 PM
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LA Cause Drew Doughty is a beast! They have a good young team that will be successful for many consecutive years.
I came here to write this.
Obviously my love for the Canadiens is in another league, I think LA is a very interesting young team, and with a core of guys like Brown, Frolov, Kopitar, Simmonds, Doughty, Johnson and two very good young goalies in Quick and Bernier, this team is really something to be jealous of, and will be good for years to come.

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02-24-2010, 03:14 PM
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2003-2004 - Regular season - Skaters Previous Page 1 of 1 Next
PLAYER SEASON POS GP G A PTS +/- PIM PP SH GW GT SHOTS
1 Mike Ribeiro 2003-2004 C 81 20 45 65 15 34 7 0 5 1 103
2 Michael Ryder 2003-2004 R 81 25 38 63 10 26 10 0 4 0 215
3 Saku Koivu 2003-2004 C 68 14 41 55 -5 52 5 0 3 0 112
4 Richard Zednik 2003-2004 R 81 26 24 50 5 63 7 0 9 0 218
5 Sheldon Souray 2003-2004 D 63 15 20 35 4 104 6 1 3 0 186
6 Patrice Brisebois 2003-2004 D 71 4 27 31 17 22 2 0 0 0 96
7 Yanic Perreault 2003-2004 C 69 16 15 31 -10 40 5 0 3 0 114
8 Jan Bulis 2003-2004 C 72 13 17 30 -8 30 1 1 4 0 147
9 Andrei Markov 2003-2004 D 69 6 22 28 -2 20 2 0 0 0 105
10 Pierre Dagenais 2003-2004 R 50 17 10 27 15 24 4 0 3 0 149
11 Niklas Sundstrom 2003-2004 R 66 8 12 20 3 18 0 0 2 1 67
12 Francis Bouillon 2003-2004 D 73 2 16 18 1 70 0 0 0 0 86
13 Joé Juneau 2003-2004 C 70 5 10 15 -4 20 2 1 1 0 76
14 Steve Bégin 2003-2004 L 52 10 5 15 6 41 0 1 1 0 91
15 Craig Rivet 2003-2004 D 80 4 8 12 -1 98 2 0 1 0 96
16 Andreas Dackell 2003-2004 R 60 4 8 12 8 10 0 0 0 0 50
17 Jason Ward 2003-2004 R 53 5 7 12 3 21 2 0 1 0 56
18 Stephane Quintal 2003-2004 D 73 3 5 8 10 82 0 0 0 0 86
19 Donald Audette 2003-2004 R 23 3 5 8 -4 16 0 0 0 0 41
20 Jim Dowd 2003-2004 C 14 3 2 5 6 6 0 1 0 0 13
21 Mike Komisarek 2003-2004 D 46 0 4 4 4 34 0 0 0 0 40
22 Chad Kilger 2003-2004 L 36 2 2 4 2 14 0 0 0 0 29
23 Darren Langdon 2003-2004 L 64 0 3 3 -2 135 0 0 0 0 22
24 Alex Kovalev 2003-2004 R 12 1 2 3 -4 12 0 0 1 0 29
25 Marcel Hossa 2003-2004 L 15 1 1 2 -3 8 0 0 0 0 19
26 Ron Hainsey 2003-2004 D 11 1 1 2 3 4 0 0 0 0 11
27 Benoit Gratton 2003-2004 C 4 0 1 1 0 4 0 0 0 0 3
28 Karl Dykhuis 2003-2004 D 9 0 0 0 -2 2 0 0 0 0 6
29 Jozef Balej 2003-2004 R 4 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 0 0 4
30 Gordie Dwyer 2003-2004 L 2 0 0 0 0 7 0 0 0 0 0
31 Tomas Plekanec 2003-2004 C 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
32 Christopher Higgins 2003-2004 C 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Gaineys First Season

2009-2010 - Regular season - Skaters Previous Page 1 of 1 Next
PLAYER SEASON POS GP G A PTS +/- PIM PP SH GW GT SHOTS
1 Tomas Plekanec 2009-2010 C 63 17 43 60 4 36 3 0 3 0 169
2 Mike Cammalleri 2009-2010 L 56 26 22 48 10 14 4 0 4 0 191
3 Scott Gomez 2009-2010 C 59 10 32 42 -5 48 4 0 1 0 131
4 Brian Gionta 2009-2010 R 42 17 14 31 -1 20 7 0 2 0 147
5 Marc-Andre Bergeron 2009-2010 D 51 10 18 28 -11 14 6 0 4 0 97
6 Roman Hamrlik 2009-2010 D 56 6 19 25 -5 46 2 0 1 0 82
7 Andrei Kostitsyn 2009-2010 L 40 12 13 25 3 20 5 0 2 0 86
8 Glen Metropolit 2009-2010 C 57 13 11 24 -1 24 8 0 1 0 101
9 Jaroslav Spacek 2009-2010 D 58 3 16 19 6 44 1 0 0 0 78
10 Andrei Markov 2009-2010 D 26 3 15 18 1 12 3 0 1 0 52
11 Travis Moen 2009-2010 L 63 7 7 14 -6 51 1 2 0 0 86
12 Max Pacioretty 2009-2010 L 52 3 11 14 -5 20 0 0 0 0 74
13 Benoit Pouliot 2009-2010 L 20 11 3 14 4 17 4 0 2 0 54
14 Maxim Lapierre 2009-2010 C 63 5 6 11 -13 54 0 0 0 0 78
15 Sergei Kostitsyn 2009-2010 L 30 2 8 10 0 6 0 0 0 0 35
16 Josh Gorges 2009-2010 D 63 3 5 8 3 37 0 0 1 0 41
17 Paul Mara 2009-2010 D 42 0 8 8 -16 48 0 0 0 0 30
18 Hal Gill 2009-2010 D 49 2 5 7 -6 55 0 0 0 0 35
19 Mathieu Darche 2009-2010 L 13 2 3 5 2 4 0 0 2 0 23
20 Matt D'Agostini 2009-2010 R 40 2 2 4 -12 26 0 0 0 0 48
21 Georges Laraque 2009-2010 R 28 1 2 3 -6 28 0 0 0 0 2
22 Guillaume Latendresse 2009-2010 R 23 2 1 3 -4 4 0 0 0 0 27
23 Ryan O'Byrne 2009-2010 D 36 0 2 2 -6 57 0 0 0 0 16
24 Tom Pyatt 2009-2010 C 22 1 1 2 -10 6 0 0 0 0 30
25 Ryan White 2009-2010 C 16 0 2 2 -6 16 0 0 0 0 5
26 David Desharnais 2009-2010 C 6 0 1 1 -1 0 0 0 0 0 2
27 Kyle Chipchura 2009-2010 C 19 0 0 0 -10 16 0 0 0 0 11
28 Ben Maxwell 2009-2010 L 8 0 0 0 -1 4 0 0 0 0 4
29 Jay Leach 2009-2010 D 7 0 0 0 0 5 0 0 0 0 4
30 Gregory Stewart 2009-2010 L 5 0 0 0 -3 11 0 0 0 0 4
31 Yannick Weber 2009-2010 D 5 0 0 0 -5 4 0 0 0 0 2
32 Mathieu Carle 2009-2010 D 3 0 0 0 1 4 0 0 0 0 2
33 James Wyman 2009-2010 L 3 0 0 0 -2 0 0 0 0 0 0
34 Shawn Belle 2009-2010 D 2 0 0 0 -2 0 0 0 0 0 1

Gaineys Last

Looks like a hell of a job to me. We actually have youth and talent. Let me guess Houle was a great GM also?
Nice try Rizonfast.

When Gainey took the helm, he had a lot of good assets to work with:

Perezhogin - Ribeiro - Andrei Kostitsyn
Higgins - Koivu - Ryder
Plekanec – Lapierre

Markov – Rivet
Souray – Komisarek
Hainsey – Beauchemin
Bouillon - O'Byrne

Halak

During Gainey’s era (2003-2010), our Habs average overall ranking is 15th – while being top10 in terms of payroll – and they played only 17 playoffs games as the home team.



I did not update the table; our Habs were 21st when Gainey left.


Very average imo.

As I mentioned, I know it is slightly out of topic but you decided to phrase your question that way (on the theme of "... Since Gainey stepped down as GM and his position was taken by Gauthier I got a uneasy feeling...") so I thought I needed to address it before actually replying!

I expect Gauthier to do a better job than “very average” Gainey.


PS You asked: Let me guess Houle was a great GM also? No he was not but André Savard was an underrated GM; very underrated imo.


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I got couple of back-ups out in the West: Anaheim as result for wishing Selänne do well over the years and Flames because I really like their fast and scrappy brand of hockey.

On the other matter, I think it would be fair to say the team progressed under Gainey (and Savard), but not as fast as could be hoped.

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Edmonton. They always had the second place in my heart.


Then it's Anaheim, maybe even ahead of Edmonton, because of Saku, as previously stated.

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For me its as follows.

Habs
Washington
L.A.
Calgary.
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