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Is it safe to say that Germany was the worst team in this tournament?

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02-24-2010, 01:58 PM
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yes, they were! and Im a bit suprised why everyone else is suprised that they were so bad...they aren`t even a true level A WC team!?!

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yes, they were! and Im a bit suprised why everyone else is suprised that they were so bad...they aren`t even a true level A WC team!?!
Because most of the North Americans do not follow World Championships. My expectations were the Swiss and Belarus would put in a great performance, Belarus disappointed me somewhat. I knew Latvia can spoil the comp for one team they nearly did yesterday. Truth is those three nations are closing the gap in World Championship play and coming into the Tournament. Hopefully Germany gets its **** together. About 8 years ago i did think they were on the rise.

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02-24-2010, 02:38 PM
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Preemptively making excuses for Canada are we?

So in other words you have no intelligent argument, just unfounded speculation.

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02-24-2010, 02:44 PM
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what?
They finished 5th at the olympic games 2002.

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Because most of the North Americans do not follow World Championships. My expectations were the Swiss and Belarus would put in a great performance, Belarus disappointed me somewhat. I knew Latvia can spoil the comp for one team they nearly did yesterday. Truth is those three nations are closing the gap in World Championship play and coming into the Tournament. Hopefully Germany gets its **** together. About 8 years ago i did think they were on the rise.
yep, I also thought they were on the rise and were leading the buch of the good underdogs (and I really liked them and their style) but they are cooling off extremely now.
but I`m still pi**ed that we had to go to level B instead of them coz of their home WC this year. I know thats a stupid IIHF rule and not the germans fault but making that world record game "auf Schalke" right after their poor, poor performance last year is just arrogant so I`m not suprised nor dissapointed with their result in this olympics.
I hope for them they recognice now that the time of easy victories against "easy" opponents is over and they have to work alot to lose not to many ground to the good nations

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Germany has been poor for years now but at the World Champs we normally don't have the NHL guys so it's to be expected. I however expected better at the Olympics with guys like Sturm and Ehrhoff.

Krupp obviously did a crap job preparing the team for the fact that the Belarus game was the gold medal game. I don't know if Krupp has all the fault though, there was next to no preparation for the tournament as well. Imagine the German football national team going to a World Cup with this little time together and preparation, unthinkable.

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02-24-2010, 02:59 PM
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Latvia, Germany & Norway were all equally horrible.

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Coming from Germany I am absolutely appalled at the lack of a good hockey development program. It's the largest out of the european nations and even boasts the highest population but noooooo we just have to royally suck.

The DEL is a joke. Hell it says something when the Cologne Sharks are close to going bankrupt. I feel like I meet a lot of hockey fans whenever I'm back home but the quality is just so poor it makes it painful to watch.

Germany was by far the most disappointing team. Latvia and Norway at least showed heart - something the German team was lacking all along.

Oh and to add to that - any league that doesn't permit checking has to be a joke.

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02-24-2010, 03:46 PM
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On paper they didn't have the worst roster, but the team played very poorly - I think it's safe to say they had the worst overall performance.

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With a team boasting 7 NHLers
I'll just stop you there. I certainly wouldn't boast about the NHL talent on that roster.

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What do you mean as worst? If worst=weakest, Gerimany isn't weakest. Weakest is Team Norway surely. It haven't the straight reflection on results, but as i see, watching hockey the level of germany is higher than Norway.

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didn't have the dominant goaltending that alot of other qualifying nations had

also had the disadvantage of having a few too many nhl'ers, if that makes sense...they weren't able to practice together like the swiss or the belorussians and develop a system

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Germany had more ability, but teams like Norway, Sweden, and Latvia also showed more heart and drive.

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The strange thing is that they even played Sweden pretty close, only losing 2-0. Just based off that result, you'd have expected them to at the very least beat Belarus and be competitive with Finland, but neither happened.

Disappointing performance by the Germans indeed.

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The strange thing is that they even played Sweden pretty close, only losing 2-0. Just based off that result, you'd have expected them to at the very least beat Belarus and be competitive with Finland, but neither happened.
They are always good for one good game in the tournament. Should have saved that for Belarus, though.
They never had a chance against Sweden, Finland or Canada.

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02-24-2010, 05:29 PM
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Latvia, Germany & Norway were all equally horrible.
Absolute garbage.
Latvia gave Latvia a great game last night, and a decent one in the preliminaries.

Norway went to OT with Switzerland, and were very close to upsetting Slovakia. They have a great top line.

Germany was shockingly bad at scoring, I have never seen anything like it. Germany played decent against sweden, but as usual still got shutout. And they did ok against belarus, but it's belarus and they chocked the game away anyway.

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Absolute garbage.
Latvia gave Latvia a great game last night, and a decent one in the preliminaries.

Norway went to OT with Switzerland, and were very close to upsetting Slovakia. They have a great top line.

Germany was shockingly bad at scoring, I have never seen anything like it. Germany played decent against sweden, but as usual still got shutout. And they did ok against belarus, but it's belarus and they chocked the game away anyway.
lolwut

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Exactly. It surprises me that NHL fans used to our playoff format find any meaning in these one off games. Olympic gold is relatively meaningless in comparison to our system of determining true champions. Unfortunately, that fact hampers the Olympic tournament and there really isn't anything they can do about it given that the best players are committed to Pro leagues.
The NFL does it the same way, and no one says the superbowl champs aren't "true champions".

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lolwut
Latvia (the team) gave Latvia (the country) a great game last night.

Duh.

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With a team boasting 7 NHLers and an international ranking higher than that of Latvia & Norway, I'm pretty disapointed in these group of guys. In all of their 4 games combined, the Germans managed to only score 4 goals in total which would average out to a goal a game. Heck, even the Norwegians managed to score more than the Germans. You could even argue that they weren't close in any of their games including the one against paltry Belarus.

If they weren't the worst team overall then at the very least they have to be the worst team offensively. Now that's something baffles me, I mean they have NHL players on their team and a top 6 nhl forward as well in Marco Sturm; something that neither Norway, Latvia, Switzerland have.

Strange? Do you think?
Also, in the playoff qualifications we saw teams like Latvia taking the Czechs to OT and Norway pushing Slovakia to a 4-3 game. We also saw the Swiss go to a shootout with the Canadians. I don't think Germany really did anything close to what those teams accomplished and not to mention, those teams have way less NHL players.


Any thoughts? Is anybody surprised they fared so poorly?

To me, I'm surprised and disapointed in Germany. I thought they would fare even a bit better than even my country and the rest of the hockey minnows so to speak. Or maybe using the term worst team in the tournament is not right maybe just most disapointing team in the tournament.
Ehrhoff said that we was looking for a top 8 finish for Germany, so from that perspective yes they had a disappointing showing. On the other hand, I wouldn't take Belarus that lightly, and I didn't expect them to do much against Sweden or Finland. If they had picked up some points in that Belarus game, they wouldn't have drawn the Canadians in the first round. Tough luck, but that's how these tournaments go...

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The NFL does it the same way, and no one says the superbowl champs aren't "true champions".
NFL playoffs are completely different. I don't find their results compelling at all. MLB, NBA and every hockey league have long traditions of seven game series. No team winning a single game is a "true champion" NONE.

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