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MY 2010 Olympic final MVP - Chris Pronger. Pick yours.

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03-01-2010, 02:12 PM
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Patrick Kane got lots of things done. Defensive play on Crosby's breakaway and two important assists.

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03-01-2010, 02:27 PM
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Only one guy played well the entire 60 mins and faced the most pressure and that was Luongo.
Yea Luongo pretty much sucked. Directly at fault on the Parise goal, and basically handed the US all of their other good opportunities on a platter with atrocious rebounds. Team Canada played great in front of him and he almost managed to blow it against a team with not even 1/2 as much scoring talent. Switch him and Miller and the game ends up like 5-1.

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Too funny. I guess you saw NBC's fair and unbiased coverage. They thought there were WMDs as well.

I'm sure Luongo will take his 0.941 Sv% (higher if one doesn't count the offside goal) and gold medal and laugh at the lame critics. I know I am.

NBC fair and unbiased? Dude, if you left it to NBC they would have showed Ice Dancing again!

I'm sure CBC was just as "biased". No way Luongo is game or tourny MVP. To have Luongo the game MVP, you are pretty much admitting that team USA was the better team and ran into a hot goalie.

Miller is the tourney MVP hands down.

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03-01-2010, 03:56 PM
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Yea Luongo pretty much sucked. Directly at fault on the Parise goal, and basically handed the US all of their other good opportunities on a platter with atrocious rebounds. Team Canada played great in front of him and he almost managed to blow it against a team with not even 1/2 as much scoring talent. Switch him and Miller and the game ends up like 5-1.
Pretty much sucked is a bit of an exageration, but whatever makes you happy.

Miller had an excellent game until overtime.

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03-01-2010, 04:20 PM
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MVPs

Ryan Miller
Zach Parise
Brian Rafalski
Pavol Demitra
Marian Hossa
Jaroslav Halak
Jonas Hiller
Rick Nash


MUPs (most useless players) - NHL only:

Ole Kristian Tollefsen
Yannick Weber
Alexander Sulzer
Christian Ehrhoff
Teemu Selanne
Joe Thornton
Brent Seabrook


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miller. pronger is an ogre
Chris Pronger is our FRIEND.

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In the Gold game? I'd go with Toews or Niedermayer.

Parise would be an HM for me. He seemed like he was everywhere on the ice for the US.

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Pretty much sucked is a bit of an exageration, but whatever makes you happy.

Miller had an excellent game until overtime.
Well except for the 4 shots that beat him before OT. The posts saved him twice and with one of them, the weak shot from Pronger that struck iron he was completely unprepared for. If that had went in it would have been much weaker than even the winning goal.

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Well except for the 4 shots that beat him before OT. The posts saved him twice and with one of them, the weak shot from Pronger that struck iron he was completely unprepared for. If that had went in it would have been much weaker than even the winning goal.
It's like Tom Barrasso said:

(to paraphrase)

Interviewer: "Looks like you had some help from the posts in that period."

Barrasso: "What, I'm supposed to save the pucks that aren't going into the net too?"

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It's like Tom Barrasso said:

(to paraphrase)

Interviewer: "Looks like you had some help from the posts in that period."

Barrasso: "What, I'm supposed to save the pucks that aren't going into the net too?"


A post is a post. It's not a goal that just didn't go in.

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It's like Tom Barrasso said:

(to paraphrase)

Interviewer: "Looks like you had some help from the posts in that period."

Barrasso: "What, I'm supposed to save the pucks that aren't going into the net too?"
hahah phenomenal!

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A post is a post. It's not a goal that just didn't go in.
Doesn't change the fact that Miller was beaten by them. Just shows he was lucky. Goalies on top of their game get those before they hit iron. Especially the weak one by Pronger where Miller looked stunned. He left that side of the net open.

The weak goal in OT was predictable based on those flubs. Hmmm, was he shaky?

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Yea Luongo pretty much sucked. Directly at fault on the Parise goal, and basically handed the US all of their other good opportunities on a platter with atrocious rebounds. Team Canada played great in front of him and he almost managed to blow it against a team with not even 1/2 as much scoring talent. Switch him and Miller and the game ends up like 5-1.
Agreed, USA would have won at least 5-1 if Miller and Luongo were switched. It was almost 5-1 anyway as Miller's posts were better than he was in 3rd period and overtime.


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I thought Luongo made some big saves. I think most fans would agree with me that this game was much closer than the last game, one that US won but Canada really controlled. Lu was there.

As for the US, I think the MVP of the tourney is Miller, but the FINAL I would say Kane.

I also think E. Johnson would be by MVP of the final if not for his miscue on the first goal (I put some blame on Rafalski, but still EJ has to ice the puck if he has to). Still, he created a ton of chances for the US. Puck movement was incredible.

I hope EJ gets a little more appreciation after this tourney. Still think Doughty might be better, but EJ is definitely there with him.

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Doesn't change the fact that Miller was beaten by them. Just shows he was lucky. Goalies on top of their game get those before they hit iron. Especially the weak one by Pronger where Miller looked stunned. He left that side of the net open.

The weak goal in OT was predictable based on those flubs. Hmmm, was he shaky?
How is a goalie "beaten" on a shot that isn't going in the net?

At any rate, yes, I thought Miller had some shakey moments at times. Luongo had more, but he came out with the win and that's all that matters for him. The final goal by the US is a good example of that. Miller didn't play his best game. He played solid, but not as well as I expected.

This is the first Olympic tournament since NHL players have been allowed to play where I really felt goaltending was not a true strength for Canada. In some ways they reminded me of the Detroit Red Wings. They relied on the team in front of the goalie instead of having to lean on the goalie to be big.

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I thought Luongo made some big saves. I think most fans would agree with me that this game was much closer than the last game, one that US won but Canada really controlled. Lu was there.

As for the US, I think the MVP of the tourney is Miller, but the FINAL I would say Kane.

I also think E. Johnson would be by MVP of the final if not for his miscue on the first goal (I put some blame on Rafalski, but still EJ has to ice the puck if he has to). Still, he created a ton of chances for the US. Puck movement was incredible.

I hope EJ gets a little more appreciation after this tourney. Still think Doughty might be better, but EJ is definitely there with him.
I thought both Johnsons had a real good tournament. Solid performances from both.

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NBC. No doubt they were pimping Miller all day. BTW, since when were goalies judged by style points? I have not seen that stat listed in box scores. He had maybe two bobbles all day and not single bad goal against. He also faced by far the most pressure of any player out there. Anyone who denies that is dishonest.
I watched the game at a bar with the sound off and it was obvious that Luongo was a bit shaky and having problems with rebound control. Someone mentioned it before but Canada's D did a great job of keeping the U.S. forwards away from the front of the net, and thus the rebounds didn't cost them save for the Parise goal. Luongo was solid in net, but he wasn't the MVP. To be honest I can't think of one player who really stood out above the rest for Canada; it truly was a group effort that got them the Gold.


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Suter was the best player on the ice for the USA team.

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USA: Miller (HM: Kane)

Canada: Toews (HM: Nash, Doughty)

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This is probably going to sound like a homer vote. But I think that Sid was the MVP of Canada. 7 points in 7 games. Only 1 point behind Toews but Sid had 2 Crucial Game Winning Goals one being the Golden Goal and he Faced every teams Shut Down Players.

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This is probably going to sound like a homer vote. But I think that Sid was the MVP of Canada. 7 points in 7 games. Only 1 point behind Toews but Sid had 2 Crucial Game Winning Goals one being the Golden Goal and he Faced every teams Shut Down Players.
I agree . He was there when it counted. Although Toews is a close second.

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