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As a recovering alcoholic, one who's drank hundreds of gallons of more beer and liquor than everyone in this thread, I can comfortably say American beer has an edge on Canadian beer.

Biggest problem with Canadian beer is how heavy it is. You get full after a six pack and either have to make yourself puke to get drunker, or go to liquor. Corona destroys everything that has come out of Canada. Great taste, and you can drink an entire 12 pack without getting full.

Labatt Blue is my favorite Canadian beer.

And German beer is better than them all, for the record.
Isn't Corona Mexican?

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There is a lot of fail in this thread.

The Pens board has an awesome beer thread for anyone looking for education on the fantastic beer industry in North America.

A small sample of great breweries in NA that put out better beer than the vast majority of products from Budweiser, Molson, et al:

Great Breweries in North America
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Russian River Brewing CompanySanta Rosa, CAhttp://www.russianriverbrewing.com/
Founders Brewing CompanyGrand Rapids, MIhttp://www.foundersbrewing.com/
Three Floyds Brewing Co.Munster, INhttp://www.3floyds.com/
Stone Brewing CompanyEscondido, CAhttp://www.stoneworldbistro.com/
Dogfish Head Craft BreweryRehoboth Beach, MDhttp://www.dogfish.com/
East End Brewing CompanyPittsburgh, PAhttp://www.eastendbrewing.com/
Tröegs Brewing CompanyHarrisburg, PAhttp://www.troegs.com/
Terrapin Beer CompanyAthens, GAhttp://www.terrapinbeer.com/
Bell's Brewery, Inc.Kalamazoo, MIhttp://www.bellsbeer.com/
Sierra Nevada Brewing CompanyChico, CAhttp://www.sierra-nevada.com/
Great Lakes Brewing CompanyCleveland, OHhttp://www.greatlakesbrewing.com/
UnibroueChambly, Quebechttp://www.unibroue.com/
Bear Republic Brewing Co.Healdsburg, CAhttp://www.bearrepublic.com/
Brooklyn BreweryBrooklyn, NYhttp://www.brooklynbrewery.com/
Oskar Blues Grill & BreweryLyons, COhttp://www.oskarblues.com/
Rogue AlesNewport, ORhttp://www.rogue.com/
Southern Tier Brewing CompanyLakewood, NYhttp://www.southerntierbrewing.com/
Great Divide Brewing CompanyDenver, COhttp://greatdivide.com/
Magic Hat Brewing CompanyBurlington, VThttp://www.magichat.net/
Lagunitas Brewing CompanyPetaluma, CAhttp://www.lagunitas.com/
Green Flash Brewing Co.Vista, CAhttp://www.greenflashbrew.com/
New Belgium Brewing CompanyFort Collins, COhttp://www.newbelgium.com/
Victory Brewing CompanyDowningtown, PAhttp://www.victorybeer.com/
The Avery Brewing CompanyBoulder, COhttp://www.averybrewing.com/
Boulder Beer CompanyBoulder, COhttp://www.boulderbeer.com/
Big Sky Brewing CompanyMissoula, MThttp://www.bigskybrew.com/

Note: Not many Canadian breweries on here, primarily because we don't have distribution of most Canadian microbreweries in the States. I've heard great things about Brasserie Dieu Du Ciel and McAuslan Brewing in Montreal.
You saved this thread for me. I was about to flip out. This thread is pretty fail, so many people don't know anything about beer.

Add Bluepoint Brewery (Patchogue, NY), Brewery Ommegang (Cooperstown, NY), North Coast Brewing Company (Fort Bragg CA), can't think of many more at the moment, you have a pretty extensive list. You can throw in Captain Lawrence (Pleasantville, NY) as well, but I'm not too crazy about their beers. Smuttynose is pretty well known too (Portsmouth, NH).

I'm a big fan of Brooklyn & Troegs. They make some great stuff. Unibroue is the only Canadian beer brand I've liked so far.

It always boggles my mind when people call themselves beer drinkers and don't know anything outside of Bud, Heineken, Corona, Stella, Miller, Coors, etc. Bleh


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North Coast needs to be on that list. the Pranqster and Brother Thelonious>>>>life
I'm big on Old Rasputin. People always give me a weird look when I get it and they see the bottle

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There is a lot of fail in this thread.

The Pens board has an awesome beer thread for anyone looking for education on the fantastic beer industry in North America.

A small sample of great breweries in NA that put out better beer than the vast majority of products from Budweiser, Molson, et al:

Great Breweries in North America
BreweryLocationWebsite
Russian River Brewing CompanySanta Rosa, CAhttp://www.russianriverbrewing.com/
Founders Brewing CompanyGrand Rapids, MIhttp://www.foundersbrewing.com/
Three Floyds Brewing Co.Munster, INhttp://www.3floyds.com/
Stone Brewing CompanyEscondido, CAhttp://www.stoneworldbistro.com/
Dogfish Head Craft BreweryRehoboth Beach, MDhttp://www.dogfish.com/
East End Brewing CompanyPittsburgh, PAhttp://www.eastendbrewing.com/
Tröegs Brewing CompanyHarrisburg, PAhttp://www.troegs.com/
Terrapin Beer CompanyAthens, GAhttp://www.terrapinbeer.com/
Bell's Brewery, Inc.Kalamazoo, MIhttp://www.bellsbeer.com/
Sierra Nevada Brewing CompanyChico, CAhttp://www.sierra-nevada.com/
Great Lakes Brewing CompanyCleveland, OHhttp://www.greatlakesbrewing.com/
UnibroueChambly, Quebechttp://www.unibroue.com/
Bear Republic Brewing Co.Healdsburg, CAhttp://www.bearrepublic.com/
Brooklyn BreweryBrooklyn, NYhttp://www.brooklynbrewery.com/
Oskar Blues Grill & BreweryLyons, COhttp://www.oskarblues.com/
Rogue AlesNewport, ORhttp://www.rogue.com/
Southern Tier Brewing CompanyLakewood, NYhttp://www.southerntierbrewing.com/
Great Divide Brewing CompanyDenver, COhttp://greatdivide.com/
Magic Hat Brewing CompanyBurlington, VThttp://www.magichat.net/
Lagunitas Brewing CompanyPetaluma, CAhttp://www.lagunitas.com/
Green Flash Brewing Co.Vista, CAhttp://www.greenflashbrew.com/
New Belgium Brewing CompanyFort Collins, COhttp://www.newbelgium.com/
Victory Brewing CompanyDowningtown, PAhttp://www.victorybeer.com/
The Avery Brewing CompanyBoulder, COhttp://www.averybrewing.com/
Boulder Beer CompanyBoulder, COhttp://www.boulderbeer.com/
Big Sky Brewing CompanyMissoula, MThttp://www.bigskybrew.com/

Note: Not many Canadian breweries on here, primarily because we don't have distribution of most Canadian microbreweries in the States. I've heard great things about Brasserie Dieu Du Ciel and McAuslan Brewing in Montreal.
I had the pleasure of having Russian River and it is amazing. New Belgium is excellent as well, can't say enough about those two.

I'd say Rickards or Alexander Keith's would be the best Canadian beers I've had, although I think Moosehead isn't half bad either. Of course, finding any of those brands around here is a chore in itself.

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Isn't Corona Mexican?
It is, however it's widely available here as it's the highest selling import in the US, I believe.

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I had the pleasure of having Russian River and it is amazing. New Belgium is excellent as well, can't say enough about those two.

I'd say Rickards or Alexander Keith's would be the best Canadian beers I've had, although I think Moosehead isn't half bad either. Of course, finding any of those brands around here is a chore in itself.
Wow,you actually like Moosepiss? You need a trip to Canada to experience some better beers.

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I had the pleasure of having Russian River and it is amazing. New Belgium is excellent as well, can't say enough about those two.

I'd say Rickards or Alexander Keith's would be the best Canadian beers I've had, although I think Moosehead isn't half bad either. Of course, finding any of those brands around here is a chore in itself.
Rickard's is decent, but it is by no means near the best Canadian beer.

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Rickard's is decent, but it is by no means near the best Canadian beer.
Rickard's Red is a gift from above.

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It is, however it's widely available here as it's the highest selling import in the US, I believe.
coronoa is available everywhere in canada, some bars sell it at $1 a bottle.

Mill street brewery makes the best beer in canada, brewery of the year 3 straight years

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It is, however it's widely available here as it's the highest selling import in the US, I believe.
It's hardly a valid argument for American beer though because it's widely available in Canada too.

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Dieu du Ciel is apparently the best beer in Canada.

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No problem. I am pretty sure the Championship teams from the four major sports meet the Pres. I know the Lakers were at the WH recently

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We don't get any North Coast brews in Pittsburgh

We get a raw deal on the beer distribution here sometimes.
Even with the internet or do state laws prevent that? We get few Dogfishes in Cali but AZ gets a ton....
Beer distribution is too political.

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Rickard's Red is a gift from above.
I'm more of Rickard's White guy. That stuff is amazing.

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I had the pleasure of having Russian River and it is amazing. New Belgium is excellent as well, can't say enough about those two.

I'd say Rickards or Alexander Keith's would be the best Canadian beers I've had, although I think Moosehead isn't half bad either. Of course, finding any of those brands around here is a chore in itself.
I've been to the Russian River brewpub numerous times, its awesome - great mix of Belgian-style beers, and hoppy, Pac-NorthWest style IPA's, double-IPA's, I think they even have a triple-IPA (which I've never had). Stone from San Diego is comparable in terms of the quality of the beer.

My favorites in Canada (limited to Ontario and New Brunswick) are Cameron's (Oakville), Beau's (eastern Ontario), Steamwhistle (TO), Picaroon's (Fredericton), and Garrison (Halifax).

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There is a lot of fail in this thread.

The Pens board has an awesome beer thread for anyone looking for education on the fantastic beer industry in North America.

A small sample of great breweries in NA that put out better beer than the vast majority of products from Budweiser, Molson, et al:

Great Breweries in North America
BreweryLocationWebsite
Russian River Brewing CompanySanta Rosa, CAhttp://www.russianriverbrewing.com/
Founders Brewing CompanyGrand Rapids, MIhttp://www.foundersbrewing.com/
Three Floyds Brewing Co.Munster, INhttp://www.3floyds.com/
Stone Brewing CompanyEscondido, CAhttp://www.stoneworldbistro.com/
Dogfish Head Craft BreweryRehoboth Beach, MDhttp://www.dogfish.com/
East End Brewing CompanyPittsburgh, PAhttp://www.eastendbrewing.com/
Tröegs Brewing CompanyHarrisburg, PAhttp://www.troegs.com/
Terrapin Beer CompanyAthens, GAhttp://www.terrapinbeer.com/
Bell's Brewery, Inc.Kalamazoo, MIhttp://www.bellsbeer.com/
Sierra Nevada Brewing CompanyChico, CAhttp://www.sierra-nevada.com/
Great Lakes Brewing CompanyCleveland, OHhttp://www.greatlakesbrewing.com/
UnibroueChambly, Quebechttp://www.unibroue.com/
Bear Republic Brewing Co.Healdsburg, CAhttp://www.bearrepublic.com/
Brooklyn BreweryBrooklyn, NYhttp://www.brooklynbrewery.com/
Oskar Blues Grill & BreweryLyons, COhttp://www.oskarblues.com/
Rogue AlesNewport, ORhttp://www.rogue.com/
Southern Tier Brewing CompanyLakewood, NYhttp://www.southerntierbrewing.com/
Great Divide Brewing CompanyDenver, COhttp://greatdivide.com/
Magic Hat Brewing CompanyBurlington, VThttp://www.magichat.net/
Lagunitas Brewing CompanyPetaluma, CAhttp://www.lagunitas.com/
Green Flash Brewing Co.Vista, CAhttp://www.greenflashbrew.com/
New Belgium Brewing CompanyFort Collins, COhttp://www.newbelgium.com/
Victory Brewing CompanyDowningtown, PAhttp://www.victorybeer.com/
The Avery Brewing CompanyBoulder, COhttp://www.averybrewing.com/
Boulder Beer CompanyBoulder, COhttp://www.boulderbeer.com/
Big Sky Brewing CompanyMissoula, MThttp://www.bigskybrew.com/

Note: Not many Canadian breweries on here, primarily because we don't have distribution of most Canadian microbreweries in the States. I've heard great things about Brasserie Dieu Du Ciel and McAuslan Brewing in Montreal.

good list, and could include many more. I love american craft beer, just wish more of it was available here in ontario. And yeah, there is some great craft beer in Canada too, though not as much as in the US. The distribution for crafte beer here is beyond terrible compared to the US, with Ontarios communist system of selling beer. Not to mention the percentage of beer drinkers here who like craft brews is miniscule compared to the US. Most people here still think stuff like Molson, Labatts, Keiths, Lakeport, etc. is Gods gift to beer. That is changing slowly though.

Some of the best craft breweries in Canada would include Garrison and Propeller from the East Coast. Dieu Du Ciel, Mcauslan, Unibroue, Charlevoix, Hopfenstark, Les Trois Mosquetaires from Quebec, the best part of Canada for good beer. Black Oak, Durham, Mill St., Beau's, Grand River and King from Ontario. Half Pints, Alley Kat and Wild Rose out west. BC has a lot of good breweries now too, probably #2 behind Quebec, and getting better every year. With breweries such as Driftwood, Tree, Phillips, Central City, Crannog Ales, Howe Sound and Swans leading the way.

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good list, and could include many more. I love american craft beer, just wish more of it was available here in ontario. And yeah, there is some great craft beer in Canada too, though not as much as in the US. The distribution for crafte beer here is beyond terrible compared to the US, with Ontarios communist system of selling beer. Not to mention the percentage of beer drinkers here who like craft brews is miniscule compared to the US. Most people here still think stuff like Molson, Labatts, Keiths, Lakeport, etc. is Gods gift to beer. That is changing slowly though.

Some of the best craft breweries in Canada would include Garrison and Propeller from the East Coast. Dieu Du Ciel, Mcauslan, Unibroue, Charlevoix, Hopfenstark, Les Trois Mosquetaires from Quebec, the best part of Canada for good beer. Black Oak, Durham, Mill St., Beau's, Grand River and King from Ontario. Half Pints, Alley Kat and Wild Rose out west. BC has a lot of good breweries now too, probably #2 behind Quebec, and getting better every year. With breweries such as Driftwood, Tree, Phillips, Central City, Crannog Ales, Howe Sound and Swans leading the way.
We get a pretty good selection of Unibroe here. Plus they make Trader Joe's Christmas beer each year

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Belgium's Stella Artois.

Hands down, the best beer I've ever had, so delicious that I only treat myself to it on my birthday. My birthday beer.

Keith's and Rickard's are great, too. Both red and white. Although white is a bit fruity.

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Mainstream commercial european beers are 10 million times better than mainstream North American beers.

Guiness, Becks, Stella, Heineken, Killkenny, Newscastle
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The only good North American beers are the micro-brewery beers.
The mainstream ones are so full of chemicals & preservatives they taste like ass.

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We get a pretty good selection of Unibroe here. Plus they make Trader Joe's Christmas beer each year
yep. you guys get a better selection of Unibroue in many parts of the US than we do in Ontario.

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Even with the internet or do state laws prevent that? We get few Dogfishes in Cali but AZ gets a ton....
Beer distribution is too political.
Pennsylvania has some of the most draconian alcohol control laws of any state in the US.

Up until very, very recently, beer could only be sold by the case in beer distributors or at ridiculously inflated prices by the 6-pack in bars. When I say ridiculously inflated, think $10 a six-pack for Yuengling. A case of Yuengling is only $16. There are now a very small number of grocery stores that have been permitted to sell beer out of a cooler in 6 packs at near-bar prices. You can't buy beer in convenience stores or the vast majority of supermarkets. You also can only buy 2 six-packs at a time regardless of where you buy it. There are minimal, if any, 24-hour beer distributors.

Liquor and wine even more heavily controlled. You can only purchase wine or liquor in state-run spirits stores. These stores were, up until the last couple years, always closed on Sundays and had generally restrictive hours. You cannot buy wine or spirits in any supermarket in the state to my knowledge.

You are not permitted to ship wine or spirits to a residential address, to my knowledge. Most beverage sellers on the Internet know about PA and will not ship to you if you have a PA address.

Ordering wine that state stores do not carry, provided that wine is on a list of special order wines, is subject to a 20% tax on top of the 7% sales tax already enforced on liquor.

Allegheny County Chief Executive Dan Onorato recently placed a 10% tax on all poured alcoholic beverages served in the city of Pittsburgh, which was recently lowered to 7%.

It's craziness.

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Mainstream commercial european beers are 10 million times better than mainstream North American beers.

Guiness, Becks, Stella, Heineken, Killkenny, Newscastle
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The only good North American beers are the micro-brewery beers.
The mainstream ones are so full of chemicals & preservatives they taste like ass.


Seriously, Heineken? Perhaps if you drink it off the line at a brewery in Europe, but by the time it reaches NY, it takes like skunky bilge water. Although, as far as NA beer goes, Buckler from them is decent, although I thought Amstel was nothing special (from the brewery in Curacao).

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Garrison and Grasshopper are two often overlooked fantastic beers.
I work at a restaurant that only has Garrison on tap. It's great to see the smaller breweries getting that recognition.

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