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03-01-2010, 06:34 PM
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Ellis/Emery tandem beats Emery/Leighton or Leighton/Boucher

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I think the Flyers strategy is to create an impenetrable wall that even Leighton can't fail behind.

Basically we've given up on a goalie to create the deepest defense the world has ever seen.

Honestly, I'd like a forward, but I'm completely okay with that.

Pronger - Carle
Timonen - Krajicek
Coburn - Hamhuis
Bartulis - Syvret

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TSNBobMcKenzie Seems logical. Maybe to Phil for Parent. May have to wait for Cote to clear. RT @twiggyalien: Does Grebeshkov deal mean Hamhuis move close?
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I think the Flyers strategy is to create an impenetrable wall that even Leighton can't fail behind.

Basically we've given up on a goalie to create the deepest defense the world has ever seen.

Honestly, I'd like a forward, but I'm completely okay with that.

Pronger - Carle
Timonen - Krajicek
Coburn - Hamhuis
Bartulis - Syvret
Or get Hamhuis and Ellis and have even more of a wall

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More fuel.


Even more!

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Let's be honest with ourselves. Ellis may be better than what we have this year, but is he really the guy we want long term? Isn't he basically another Esche? If they want to go after Hamhuis and Ellis for this year, fine. If they can resign Hamhuis, great. But Ellis is not the answer long term for this team.
Ellis is not a star goal tender. So whether or not he is a long term solution depends on your definition of "long term". This team isn't getting a star goal tender any time in the next few years (i.e. until they have a different cap situation to sign or trade for one or one of Morrison, Riopel or Erikkson exceed expectations). I would be fine with having him for an inexpensive three year deal.


Also, I disagree with whoever said that Coburn is a third pairing defenseman. Everything people are saying about him they used to say about Pitkanen. He is an average second pairing guy that you really think looks good on the third (which makes sense), but he has a chance to become a legit first pairing defenseman, or at least a really really good #3. Patience....

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03-01-2010, 06:57 PM
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Ellis is not a star goal tender. So whether or not he is a long term solution depends on your definition of "long term". This team isn't getting a star goal tender any time in the next few years (i.e. until they have a different cap situation to sign or trade for one or one of Morrison, Riopel or Erikkson exceed expectations). I would be fine with having him for an inexpensive three year deal.


Also, I disagree with whoever said that Coburn is a third pairing defenseman. Everything people are saying about him they used to say about Pitkanen. He is an average second pairing guy that you really think looks good on the third (which makes sense), but he has a chance to become a legit first pairing defenseman, or at least a really really good #3. Patience....
Coburn has been awful at times. I think he peaks at a solid 2nd pairing guy. However the idea he could be a 1st pairing guy would require some more tutoring from the Lord Chris Pronger himself.

Carle-Pronger
Timonen-Hamhuis
Krajicek-Coburn

works for me with Bartulis and Syvret depth

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Coburn has been awful at times. I think he peaks at a solid 2nd pairing guy. However the idea he could be a 1st pairing guy would require some more tutoring from the Lord Chris Pronger himself.

Carle-Pronger
Timonen-Hamhuis
Krajicek-Coburn

works for me with Bartulis and Syvret depth
Coburn effs up very basic defensive skills far too routinely for me to believe he has top pairing potential (other than leaning heavily on his partner) at this point. Something about not chasing the puck seems to evade him whenever he's in one-on-one situations...not something you want in a top pairing D.

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Coburn still oozes talent and size, he just needs a brain

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Coburn effs up very basic defensive skills far too routinely for me to believe he has top pairing potential (other than leaning heavily on his partner) at this point. Something about not chasing the puck seems to evade him whenever he's in one-on-one situations...not something you want in a top pairing D.
He showed signs of being wonderful a year ago, I think we constantly forget that. He's still young, I'd like to give him some time. It may actually work out for us because we can sign him for much cheaper now. The worst that can happen is that we have a solid #3 or 4 DMan with him.

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as long as Coburn doesnt have high dollar hopes, I see no reason to let him walk.

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Holmgren is not looking for a goalie according to Panaccio. Claims the Flyers prefer a forward but would settle for a defenseman. Jurcina, Torres, Armstrong, and of course Hamhuis are names he mentions.

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The Flyers appear comfortable with Michael Leighton as their starter and, frankly, he’s been very, very good here with a 2.19 goals against average and .925 save percentage.
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He showed signs of being wonderful a year ago, I think we constantly forget that. He's still young, I'd like to give him some time. It may actually work out for us because we can sign him for much cheaper now. The worst that can happen is that we have a solid #3 or 4 DMan with him.
...he still shows all of that. He's a fantastic skater, with some good skills. But at this stage, he shouldn't be getting beat one-on-one because he's chasing the puck (it isn't like they wait to tell you that until you get to the NHL).

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If Homer is comfortable with giving a guy who no playoff experiences the nod, then I'm not holding the breath.

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If Homer is comfortable with giving a guy who no playoff experiences the nod, then I'm not holding the breath.
I have been breathing deep ever since Emery was first injured. Every win after then is gravy

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If Homer is comfortable with giving a guy who no playoff experiences the nod, then I'm not holding the breath.
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Boucher hasn't played a full game in about 10 years.

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Nashville has reportedly asked the Flyers about a number of their players, but NOT Ryan Parent.
3 minutes ago via web

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He's hurt and they are familiar with him. Maybe they would like Bartulis the Olympian

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Here's two of the top of my head.
1) JVR
2) Giroux

I would give them Coburn. I may be alone on that deal.

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He's hurt and they are familiar with him. Maybe they would like Bartulis the Olympian
I'd be okay with Bartulis or Parent honestly. I DON'T want to ship out Coburn for Hamhuis. That's a terrible waste of assets.

I'd probably give up Coburn for Price/Halak and not much else.

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I just think we need Ellis/Etc. More than anything at this point.

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Trade board is saying we traded Parent for Hamrlik? I don't believe that to be true.

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No point in dealing Coburn for a D. Too lateral

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Trade board is saying we traded Parent for Hamrlik? I don't believe that to be true.
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