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03-01-2010, 04:23 PM
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Was he A UFA or an RFA?

If a UFA, the deal isn't that bad. He would have been tough to sign.

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So far, next to the Khabby deal, this is one of the worst I've seen. Makes no sense whatsoever...Does Tambo even actually watch hockey?? We want to rid ourselves, first and foremost, of the old and expensive players...Not the young up and comers for nothing...If he couldn't package Grebs with one of the veterans or get something better than a 50th overall pick, why bother? Absolutely no reason to do this..none. Could have kept him for a future without the expensive old players......I can see Tambellini has learned nothing...

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The Oilers should try and send Horcoff to the New york Islanders.They do have almost 18 million in cap space.

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I don't like the trade at all. He traded a player at his lowest possible value.

IMO this one will come back and bite us in the butt.
At least he's moved on from "assessing" to "buying high and selling low."

Baby steps are all we can expect from Tambo. I mean, dude just learned to tie his own shoes a few weeks back, we can't expect him to actually be competent at his job yet, can we?

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He wasn't going to take a cut from what he made this season and no NHL team is going to offer him what he got from the Oilers. He's KHL bound.

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Doubtful the Oilers can move Staois or even Souray ... I think they had to move Grebs as a result, he may have been the only d-man we outside of Visnovsky that's easy to move.
If somehow this proves to be true then we are truly hooped as long as Tambellini is at the helm.

It makes no sense to trade simply for the sake of trading when your in this situation.

The guys that need to be moved are the ones you mentioned, if a deal isn't doable for those guys then you don't make a trade and you certainly don't trade someone you didn't originally intend on trading just for the sake of doing something.

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Ugh, not a good start. Staios for a 7th?
we take that 7th and smile all the way to the bank.

The reality is that we are dead last in gaa. Our defense can't slow anybody down and they aren't scoring much. Our defence played as bad as any in the league this year so we shouldn't expect much.

Grebs needs a QA of close to 3 mill next year or he is gone as ufa. There is no way we should be spending that much on him. If his QA was 1.5 mill, he would still be an oiler.

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03-01-2010, 04:24 PM
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On a side note - kinda interesting that we're trading with Nashville. When's the last time we made a trade with them?

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I agree. Either he signs somewhere else next year, or we have to pay him $3.5M+ per year to sign him. At that price, he simply is not worth it.

So the fact that we got anything for him is a bonus IMO.
Yeah when you put it that way it's OK I guess. I was thinking maybe they could do a bigger deal with Cogs + Grebs, but I get the feeling Tamby might hang on to Cogs and give him another year at least.

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So far, next to the Khabby deal, this is one of the worst I've seen. Makes no sense whatsoever...Does Tambo even actually watch hockey?? We want to rid ourselves, first and foremost, of the old and expensive players...Not the young up and comers for nothing...If he couldn't package Grebs with one of the veterans or get something better than a 50th overall pick, why bother? Absolutely no reason to do this..none. Could have kept him for a future without the expensive old players......I can see Tambellini has learned nothing...
They have to saw off salary cap by any means necessary.

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If that is the going rate, then Pisani / Moreau / Comrie & Staios are worth absolutely nothing on the trade front....
And Souray.

But we already knew that. We should just be happy if we get anything for any of these guys. Except for the UFAs, they have negative value.

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Was he A UFA or an RFA?

If a UFA, the deal isn't that bad. He would have been tough to sign.
An RFA.

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I love watching fellow fans severely overvalue the players on the Oilers.

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Lets face it all you people who are complaining about the trade value and how we "should have gotten more" need to understand this isnt NHL 10 where you can get whatever you want, this is real life and its a business and they are there and you are not!... I think its a great trade, as we wouldnt have resigned him this summer and we still get something out of it!

Also this proves that we are finally in a rebuild mode!!!

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I can't believe so many hate this deal. The guy has been brutal this year. When people talked about Team Russia at the Olympics they said.."If Grebeshkov is on your team, then you have big problems at the back end."

He makes $3.15M and will get qualified at $3.5.

People are saying the KHL is a possibility.

We need to move some bodies out and rebuild the team. Grebs won't make this team better long term.

I am happy enough.

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So far, next to the Khabby deal, this is one of the worst I've seen. Makes no sense whatsoever...Does Tambo even actually watch hockey?? We want to rid ourselves, first and foremost, of the old and expensive players...Not the young up and comers for nothing...If he couldn't package Grebs with one of the veterans or get something better than a 50th overall pick, why bother? Absolutely no reason to do this..none. Could have kept him for a future without the expensive old players......I can see Tambellini has learned nothing...
Really? This is what we need.

Clearing cap space isn't fun. You can't send out coal and expect diamonds in return.

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An RFA.
Thanks.

Back to my original thought on the deal then

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Thats a good return for this years Grebeshkov. Last year, he would have obviously brought back more.

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If we can flip Souray or Gilbert and get Volchenkov back we could really revamp our defense.

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Why are so many upset by this deal?

With the one-year-deals that Grebs has signed over the last 2 years I wouldn't doubt that Grebeshkov was going to walk at the end of the year. He sees this team is in rebuild mode now.

He was a RFA at season's end. Getting a 2nd Round pick in this year's draft for him is just fine.

EDIT - TSN had listed him as a UFA. But other sites say RFA.

Either way, I think he was either KHL bound or not going to return to the Oilers.

Even OntOilFan agrees so it must be fine!

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there's also been rumours floating for awhile that Grebs would like to head to the KHL - would people view this as such a bad move if he left for the KHL after this year?
Maybe that was a possibility, but there's no reason he had to let word get out. I'm surprised we couldn't get a B prospect in the deal. Grebs should be worth more than Leopold..

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Grebs has been HORRIBLE this season. How's Tambo supposed to deal in a position of strength with with a player like that?
exactly. this 2nd rounder is better that resigning him at the qualifying rate, considering his play this season.

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So far, next to the Khabby deal, this is one of the worst I've seen. Makes no sense whatsoever...Does Tambo even actually watch hockey?? We want to rid ourselves, first and foremost, of the old and expensive players...Not the young up and comers for nothing...If he couldn't package Grebs with one of the veterans or get something better than a 50th overall pick, why bother? Absolutely no reason to do this..none. Could have kept him for a future without the expensive old players......I can see Tambellini has learned nothing...
How do you think the conversation went?

NSH: Hey Tambo, how about Staios for a 2nd?
EDM: Hmm, we'd rather trade Grebs, who has more upside and is younger than Staios for that 2nd. Does that work?
NSH: Yeah, OK.

There's a reason other teams are not trading for a guy like Staios. I don't know why people cannot understand that.

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You guys should consider yourselves lucky you got a 2nd for him

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Grebs was one of my favourite players. Disappointed he's gone for only a second, but... I guess cap space is also a consideration. Still, I thought we could have at least gotten a roster player for him. In any case, good luck Grebs.

Also, interesting Nashville would trade for an impending Russian RFA given what happened with Radulov... perhaps one consideration in them only offering up a second.

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