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03-01-2010, 05:09 PM
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The last 20 games

I was looking at the Sharks' schedule and it looks pretty rough. 20 games in 40 days and after March 14th it'll be 15 games in 28 days. This includes:

An even split of road/home games
3 sets of back-to-backs
3 games against the Stars
10 games against NW Division teams

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Good.

Although I suspect it's that way for a lot of teams due to the Olympics. Just that us Westies will get hurt more as usual due to travel.

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Wonder how it compares to other teams. Seems that everyone's in the same boat given the Olympics break.

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13-4-3. You'll see.

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May be a blessing in disguise? I'd like to see the Sharks fighting for each win heading into the playoffs. Unfortunately(?!), they've put themselves in a position in the standings where they wouldn't have to gut it out... so maybe the tough schedule applies a bit of that pressure?

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13-4-3. You'll see.


13-3-4

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Wonder how it compares to other teams. Seems that everyone's in the same boat given the Olympics break.
Check the Nucks schedule.

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I don't see SJ at the top of the standings - I actually think Chicago will pass them and we'll end up 2nd. I don't have high hopes for this offseason anyhow ... call it a hunce.

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I hope the Hawks pass us. I think the 8th seed will be tougher than the 7th.

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I hope the Hawks pass us. I think the 8th seed will be tougher than the 7th.
That depends if the Wings finish 8th or 7th.

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That depends if the Wings finish 8th or 7th.
Wings 9th place

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the 7th and 8th seeds will be 1 of these 5 teams.

nashville, calgary, detroit, dallas, anaheim.

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Sharks will finish in 3rd overall. At least thats what my magic 8-ball told me...

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the 7th and 8th seeds will be 1 of these 5 teams.

nashville, calgary, detroit, dallas, anaheim.
one team will get two playoff spots?

If the sharks secure up a top three spot, I would like to see some of our olympians have their minutes cut down for the final stretch of games. Particularly Boyle, who has been a workhorse all season.

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Sharks will finish in 3rd overall. At least thats what my magic 8-ball told me...
Steve told you that?

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We can afford to coast the last few games before the playoffs to get the energy back up. Still, I'm not optimistic for some reason...

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one team will get two playoff spots?

If the sharks secure up a top three spot, I would like to see some of our olympians have their minutes cut down for the final stretch of games. Particularly Boyle, who has been a workhorse all season.
Unfortunately clinching our division might be harder than it looks. Phoenix is only 10 points back, LA 11, and both have been playing very well, I could see one of them, if not both, making a run.

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Unfortunately clinching our division might be harder than it looks. Phoenix is only 10 points back, LA 11, and both have been playing very well, I could see one of them, if not both, making a run.
What's odd is that San Jose doesn't play LA anymore and has the final game of the year vs. Phoenix. Phoenix plays LA and SJ to end the season. The NHL guys were obviously thinking Dallas/San Jose/Anaheim to fight down the end.

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Unfortunately clinching our division might be harder than it looks. Phoenix is only 10 points back, LA 11, and both have been playing very well, I could see one of them, if not both, making a run.
with 20 games left, that's a bigger gap than it seems.

Assume the Sharks were to go 12-6-4 over those 20 games. That's a fairly conservative estimate, I would think.

Phoenix has 19 games left, LA has 21. So in order to pass the Sharks, the Coyotes would have to go no worse than 16-0-3, and LA 17-2-2. Those would be very impressive runs to make, or they'd have to hope the Sharks tank somewhat.

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with 20 games left, that's a bigger gap than it seems.

Assume the Sharks were to go 12-6-4 over those 20 games. That's a fairly conservative estimate, I would think.

Phoenix has 19 games left, LA has 21. So in order to pass the Sharks, the Coyotes would have to go no worse than 16-0-3, and LA 17-2-2. Those would be very impressive runs to make, or they'd have to hope the Sharks tank somewhat.
12-6-4 is 22 games

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12-6-4 is 22 games
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yeah, I also realized that I did the math wrong on my record predictions, and didn't account for the extra points from OTLs on the Sharks' part. So really my hypothetical records for Phoenix and LA only work if hte Sharks go 12-8-0. I plan on fixing this in a few minutes.

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yeah, I also realized that I did the math wrong on my record predictions, and didn't account for the extra points from OTLs on the Sharks' part. So really my hypothetical records for Phoenix and LA only work if hte Sharks go 12-8-0. I plan on fixing this in a few minutes.
What's the Sharks magic number?

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stretch run hypotheticals, take 2 (now with correct math!)

Now
Teampointspoint differential (to SJ)games remaining
Sharks89020
Coyotes79-1019
Kings78-1121

So, now let's assume that the Sharks, over their final 20 games, go 10-6-4. That adds a total of 24 points to their record, and has them finish with 113 total points for the season. So, if 114 points is the goal that Phoenix and LA need to shoot for in order to capture the division, the new math is:
Teamcurrent pointstarget differentialremaining gamespoints-per-game req'd
Coyotes79-35191.84
Kings78-36211.71

Both teams need nearly 2 points a game to catch the Sharks. In other words, they'd pretty much need to run the table.

Hypothetically:
Phoenix would need to go 16-1-2 to tie the Sharks and get a tiebreaker for more wins (right now San Jose has 3 more wins than Phoenix, but in my hypothetical scenario the Coyotes pick up 6 more wins than the Sharks down the stretch, shifting the win differential to +3 for Phoenix) or 17-1-1 to outright pass them in points

Los Angeles would need 15-0-6 or better to tie and again get a tiebreaker (like phoenix they are -3 wins to SJ right now and hypothetically would go to +2 with this scenario) or 16-1-4 to outright win.

and keep in mind that I am being very conservative in my hypothetical Shark record. Another win or to by San Jose and the mountain becomes pretty much insurmountable short of totally undefeated records for both other teams from here on out.

These don't seem like likely scenarios to play out, which means the only way they catch up is if the Sharks swoon big time.

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What's the Sharks magic number?
I think someone has a link to a site that tracks this on a daily basis. I can't remember who though.

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