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"More like" as in "closer to" or "almost/similar" etc...
The #4 is similar to the Recchi but with a tiny bit of toe added. The Datsyuk, which is the closest Reebok variant, is SIMILAR to the Recchi but a larger curve and higher lie... It also starts a bit more towards the heel and has a less open face than the Recchi, but we're starting to split hairs.
Also the Kovalchuk pro is not a toe kink, a Rafalski pro would be more of a "toe kink." Since you like splitting hairs, the Kovalchuk pro is a very small heel with the majority of the curve in the toe.
Sorry that this is sideways but this is a toe kink if I ever saw one. And I'm just trying to give people my opinions about the Harrow #4 and how it is described. If you think that I am splitting hairs, ignore me. You may have a different opinion so you can post your own opinion.
Sorry that this is sideways but this is a toe kink if I ever saw one. And I'm just trying to give people my opinions about the Harrow #4 and how it is described. If you think that I am splitting hairs, ignore me. You may have a different opinion so you can post your own opinion.
I own over 6 kovalchuk pro blades and that is a straight above picture. Here's one of mine that is much more accurate of the actual curve of the stick. Notice the reflection off the face of the blade, that's because the curve starts at the heel.
Yeah, I might have a little idea of what I'm talking about when it comes to "toe curves":
And before anybody else asks...yes he does have the best glove collection on the planet.
Sup TBL! (huggy bear from IW)
Do yourself a favor and when TBL posts about hockey gear, don't argue and prepare to learn ALOT. Hell he's the one who taught me about Ovechkin's little stick figures he draws on his grips.
I'm not trying to argue here. I'm just saying that for ME, the Datsyuk, Recchi, and Harrow #4 all play very differently. I know all about toe curves too, I would have my parents buy me blades from Russia so I could have the toe curve I wanted. Hockey is my LIFE so I'm sorry if I don't agree with you on everything because I have found different information or have different opinions on gear I have used a lot.
I'm not trying to argue here. I'm just saying that for ME, the Datsyuk, Recchi, and Harrow #4 all play very differently. I know all about toe curves too, I would have my parents buy me blades from Russia so I could have the toe curve I wanted. Hockey is my LIFE so I'm sorry if I don't agree with you on everything because I have found different information or have different opinions on gear I have used a lot.
The lies on all those blades are different, as well as the openness of the blade, blade length and blade shape. They all are the CLOSEST in comparison to eachother.
A P92 isn't a Sakic clone but if someone asks what is Bauer's Sakic clone, nearly everyone is going to say a P92(then you will get one idiot that says P106)... because it's the closest available pattern.
You're making it much more complicated than it is. An Easton Sakic is different if you compare it on a ST to an S19, blade thickness screws things up but again, that's splitting hairs.
I'm not saying you're wrong, the patterns are different but read my posts. I'm explaining that they're similar but different, you are just exaggerating the differences. We aren't comparing a Recchi to a Drury, we're comparing a Recchi to an Iginla(The closest match available).
The lies on all those blades are different, as well as the openness of the blade, blade length and blade shape. They all are the CLOSEST in comparison to eachother.
A P92 isn't a Sakic clone but if someone asks what is Bauer's Sakic clone, nearly everyone is going to say a P92(then you will get one idiot that says P106)... because it's the closest available pattern.
You're making it much more complicated than it is. An Easton Sakic is different if you compare it on a ST to an S19, blade thickness screws things up but again, that's splitting hairs.
I'm not saying you're wrong, the patterns are different but read my posts. I'm explaining that they're similar but different, you are just exaggerating the differences. We aren't comparing a Recchi to a Drury, we're comparing a Recchi to an Iginla(The closest match available).
BTW, Recchi => Tavares
I'm just trying to show that they say they are similar in a few ways but if someone wants to know the differences and if they play alike, thats where I explain things. And I did know the Tavares is the new Recchi but thats good that you mentioned that cuz some people don't know that.
A little, ok a lot, off topic here but how can Bauer say the P92 is a toe curve?
Yeah every company has their "compare to" listing and everyone with a brain should know they are not exact from company to company.
This is why companies like Harrow should use a numbering system instead of player names and they do. Makes things easier in my opinion for people who already know how to play and have used several different patterns in their lifetime.
The naming blades thing is for (forgive me) hockey stupids and newbies. Hockey blades are a tool, a part number.
The only item that would make a difference for me with a name on it would be pro-stock sticks made for that actual person.
Names on the retail versions have always bothered me since I had first seen it.
I'm just trying to show that they say they are similar in a few ways but if someone wants to know the differences and if they play alike, thats where I explain things. And I did know the Tavares is the new Recchi but thats good that you mentioned that cuz some people don't know that.
A little, ok a lot, off topic here but how can Bauer say the P92 is a toe curve?
LOL, I have nooo idea. I guess it's just the closest mainstream pattern they have to a toe curve.
...but look at the lie scale, all different. Warrior measures at the heel, which makes ALL their lies vastly different than other companies. The Recchi/Tavares is listed as a 5(I believe) but it's definitely higher than an Easton 5, closer to 5.25. I think they just like messing with people.
LOL, I have nooo idea. I guess it's just the closest mainstream pattern they have to a toe curve.
...but look at the lie scale, all different. Warrior measures at the heel, which makes ALL their lies vastly different than other companies. The Recchi/Tavares is listed as a 5(I believe) but it's definitely higher than an Easton 5, closer to 5.25. I think they just like messing with people.
IDK if you have used Harrow blades or sticks but I personally feel like their lies are a little high compared to Easton. The #4 is said to be 5.5 but the blade lies on the ice more like my old Easton Forsberg/Zetterberg lie 5 blade. (And before you say anything, YES the sticks are the same exact length.) Does anyone else have an opinion on Harrow lies?
IDK if you have used Harrow blades or sticks but I personally feel like their lies are a little high compared to Easton. The #4 is said to be 5.5 but the blade lies on the ice more like my old Easton Forsberg/Zetterberg lie 5 blade. (And before you say anything, YES the sticks are the same exact length.) Does anyone else have an opinion on Harrow lies?
I have and I thought the #4 was almost the same as the recchi, which I call a 5.25 lie. It has a larger rocker than any 5 lie blade so it's rather difficult to say where exactly it falls... but definitely lower than 5.5
Has anyone seen or used the Easton Chara curve? I heard that it is going to be a neutral faced, mid-toe, lie 5. AKA pretty much the Harrow #4 but lie 5 instead of 5.5.
I own over 6 kovalchuk pro blades and that is a straight above picture. Here's one of mine that is much more accurate of the actual curve of the stick. Notice the reflection off the face of the blade, that's because the curve starts at the heel.
Yeah, I might have a little idea of what I'm talking about when it comes to "toe curves":
Have you seen the Semin pro stock? I'm kinda curious as to what his curve looks like. Semin has a cannon.
I may actually be switching back to my Warrior Kovalchuk or over to the Harrow #5. My coach switched me to center for next year. Every faceoff I took with the #4 curve I lost and my passes weren't as crisp as I would like. I will need my passing to be perfect as a center next year.
Maybe I just need more practice at center with the #4 curve...
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I may actually be switching back to my Warrior Kovalchuk or over to the Harrow #5. My coach switched me to center for next year. Every faceoff I took with the #4 curve I lost and my passes weren't as crisp as I would like. I will need my passing to be perfect as a center next year.
Maybe I just need more practice at center with the #4 curve...
The Harrow #5 (5 lie) I have has the wrong lie for me but the pattern is good for passing I think. It is NOT open at all on the toe and is equal to the Iginla pattern by some companies.
The Harrow #5 (5 lie) I have has the wrong lie for me but the pattern is good for passing I think. It is NOT open at all on the toe and is equal to the Iginla pattern by some companies.
It should do you well I think.
I don't know which curve is bigger. I like the nice smooth curve of the #5 tho...
Could it be the #4 curve is a lot longer? It seems long to me and the Iginla is a very short blade. I'd imagine if you're hitting the ice with the toe of the blade and missing the puck you'd lose draws...just an idea.
Could it be the #4 curve is a lot longer? It seems long to me and the Iginla is a very short blade. I'd imagine if you're hitting the ice with the toe of the blade and missing the puck you'd lose draws...just an idea.
Good idea. I never thought about that. But my role switched from sniper to playmaker as well so I would like to switch to my playmaker curve. I can still shoot almost as well with the Iggy/#5 as I can with the #4 so I'm not worried about my shot, its my passing I'm worried about.
BTW, I had someone ask me about the #2 curve. I gave them an answer that is true but I also referred them to you since you own the curve.
The Harrow #5 (5 lie) I have has the wrong lie for me but the pattern is good for passing I think. It is NOT open at all on the toe and is equal to the Iginla pattern by some companies.
It should do you well I think.
Would you recommend the Harrow #5 or the Easton Synergy SE16 Iginla blade?
Would you recommend the Harrow #5 or the Easton Synergy SE16 Iginla blade?
I do not know what the Iginla by Easton looks like. I do have an Iginla RBK (IG17) prostock blade that is not the same as the Harrow #5. Close but not exactly the same.
Here is a picture of my Harrow #5 maybe this will help you?
I think I may go with the Harrow for now. I break Easton blades really easy and the curves are pretty much the same. I like the pics but I'm a righty so I have to mentally flip the pics. lol
I think I may go with the Harrow for now. I break Easton blades really easy and the curves are pretty much the same. I like the pics but I'm a righty so I have to mentally flip the pics. lol
If you have the editing software just flippem', I believe the old fashioned microsoft paint will do that. I use photoshop 8.
