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03-02-2010, 02:06 PM
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Russia 2014 solution: citizenship plus $$$ for NA players to play for Russian NT...

...and I am not talking about marginal players like Darcy Verot.

I can easily imagine this happening, with Russian Hockey Federation going after decent Canada or US D-men, who would make 2nd or 3rd teams in their respective countries. While this will not cure all of their current and inevitable future defensive pains, Russia may still become stronger at the blueline.

Changing nationalities (only as a formality, they would still keep their original citizenship) is not uncommon in other sports. This year, a Russian-born female biathlete won Olympic gold for Slovakia, and I remember a Nordic-born skier racing for Spain some years ago. And there are more than a few cases in international soccer (mostly involving African or LA players).

Would such thing be possible? Discuss.

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Russian hockey has way too much pride to do something like that, and they should.

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I think the point is to have young kids grow up and want to be the next Slava Fetisov, not buy off a Dan Hamhuis to play for you because as a Canadian I would be laughing my ass off if that happened. If you won anything it would asterisked like crazy!

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I think the point is to have young kids grow up and want to be the next Slava Fetisov, not buy off a Dan Hamhuis to play for you because as a Canadian I would be laughing my ass off if that happened. If you won anything it would asterisked like crazy!
I agree, but 2014 is too close to allow for any major defensive talent to come up to compete on best-on-best level, and I can easily imagine Russian hockey bosses swallow their pride, rather than run the risk of not winning it in Sochi.

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Russian hockey has way too much pride to do something like that, and they should.
As do the vast majority of Canadians and Americans that are good enough to displace someone on the Russian team.

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I agree, but 2014 is too close to allow for any major defensive talent to come up to compete on best-on-best level, and I can easily imagine Russian hockey bosses swallow their pride, rather than run the risk of not winning it in Sochi.
Defence can be taught. They would be better off doing what the Swiss and other teams have done, and bring in a North American coach to run the team.

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This is a great thread already.

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Vladsky you are crazy.

This idea =

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Defence can be taught. They would be better off doing what the Swiss and other teams have done, and bring in a North American coach to run the team.
wow @ that thought

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Defence can be taught. They would be better off doing what the Swiss and other teams have done, and bring in a North American coach to run the team.
I can't see this as a possibility.

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wow @ that thought
Why is that so unthinkable? The Swiss already did it and got good results from it, the Canadian coach took team Canada to a shootout.

This happens in other sports all the time, football/soccer is one example of many (Hiddink in South Korea would be a good analogy).

I think Russia needs at least one North American coach, a better defence and less KHL players (duh). Perhaps a bit more accountability as well, but by 2014 you'd imagine Ovechkin and Malkin will have matured somewhat.

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Hiring Canadians to play for Russia in Russia will fly so well with the country.

A North American coach is as far as they will go.

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Here's one idea... why is it so common in soccer for national teams to be coached by a foreign national, but seemingly unthinkable for a foreign national to coach national hockey teams?

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Here's one idea... why is it so common in soccer for national teams to be coached by a foreign national, but seemingly unthinkable for a foreign national to coach national hockey teams?
Too much pride in Russian hockey system. This should and will change if read the Larionov's interview.

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Russia is not Qatar, Canadians are not Kenyans and NHL level defencemen are rich, not poor.

This idea would not work.

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Here's one idea... why is it so common in soccer for national teams to be coached by a foreign national, but seemingly unthinkable for a foreign national to coach national hockey teams?
I think its only unthinkable for Russia to accept a NA coach for their Olympic team.

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They should offer russian bride, that would work !

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It's not that common in soccer to have a foreign coach, most of the top nations wouldn't do it. When England did it it caused strong media criticism as well. It's usually the crappy nations who need assistance from outsiders who do it and that happens in hockey as well.

Russia sees itself as a top hockey nation though so they won't resort to anything like that and they certainly won't pay Brad Stuart to don a Russia jersey.

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Any American or Canadian good enough to make the Russian team likely already played for their countries at the WJC and would thus be ineligible.

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It's not that common in soccer to have a foreign coach, most of the top nations wouldn't do it. When England did it it caused strong media criticism as well. It's usually the crappy nations who need assistance from outsiders who do it and that happens in hockey as well.

Russia sees itself as a top hockey nation though so they won't resort to anything like that and they certainly won't pay Brad Stuart to don a Russia jersey.
He'd get dangled so badly!

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I tend to think if a few Canadians did it and Russia beat them, that those canadian Dmen would be hard pressed to show their faces in Canada ever again

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A foreign coach is needed more than a change of players.

Russian defenseman are fine.

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they will only be playing college kids anyway

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I would hope that the people of Russia would be opposed to any suggestion of doing anything like this. I know as a Canadian, I'd be embarrassed if we did this in hockey.

It's a pretty good bet that the Russians are not going to win Gold in their own country. Their defense is horrible, and only going to get worse as I don't see any 'great' defensemen coming up through the ranks. They'll still have a rather potent offense however.

I look forward to Canada vs USA (Part III) in Sochi.

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