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03-02-2010, 08:19 PM
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Is a Canada vs. US summit series a good idea?

Given the ratings for the gold medal game in both countries and the fact that many American's are now claiming that they have dethroned the Russians and now are Canada's main rival, I think this wouldn't be such a bad idea.

As a Canadian I really want to see if the American's can give us a run for our money in a 7-9 game series. I would probably say not but then again the Russians surprised us in '72.

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let's not wearout international hockey. It's awesome - but usually less is more.

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I think the olympics are good enough.

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I think the olympics are good enough.
I agree, this is not 1972, the Soviets (I mean Russians) are not an unknown factor as they used to be back then, their best play here in North America.

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I agree, this is not 1972, the Soviets (I mean Russians) are not an unknown factor as they used to be back then, their best play here in North America.
this is about playing the americans not the russians...i think the russians wanted another summit series but canada declined..

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Defend our national pride again but if they think they took the spot of the russians they must prove that to them so they should play a 7 game series first and we get the winner.

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I'd like to see a version similar to what we did with the Russians back in 2007, our best Under 20 players.

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this is about playing the americans not the russians...i think the russians wanted another summit series but canada declined..
My bad, I think I've had a long day and I jumped the gun when I saw the word Summit lol.

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I dont see any reason to have a series like this.

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I think it would taint the greatness of this Olympics, and I don't think it would be nearly as important or as entertaining as you might expect.

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I have to say no as well. I'd rather leave my memories with the absolutely wonderful GMG we just saw, not any extra series.

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I would love to see this. And all you who said no, you would be watching too.

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If there is no World Cup in 2011 I would love to see a series between Canada and the US. No doubt it would be a financial success.

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I would love to see this. And all you who said no, you would be watching too.
Of course we would. But we would be watching most other hockey events if they were on as well.

A Canada vs. US summit series just feels like a cheap money-grab, where we'll definitely be excited if it happens and look forward to it, just because it's a friggen summit series, but then you'd probably end up being disappointed in and realize how "not the same" it is and look back on it negatively.

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A World Cup makes far more sense and is likely what we will be seeing. IMO, that would be the perfect international competition in between these past Olympics and Sochi in 2014. We need something in the next four years but it's got to make sense and has to be interesting.

You cannot just throw out random ideas hoping it will duplicate and mirror what was an amazing Olympics.

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If there is no World Cup in 2011 I would love to see a series between Canada and the US. No doubt it would be a financial success.
So the World Cup does still exist then? For a best on best tournament it just seems to be very unnoticeable. I remember Canada winning it a while back, but nothing about it stands out in my mind, other than all the Canadian players looking very awkward with the trophy.
At least when it was the Canada Cup, people payed more attention. Everyone wanted to be the country that won the tournament with Canada in the title, if only because of their hatred for Canada when it comes to hockey.

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let's not wearout international hockey. It's awesome - but usually less is more.
I agree, far more exciting and electric that way. There are no evil communists to beat now either.

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I really hope it doesn't happen to keep international hockey fresh, but if it did happen, I'd watch every minute.

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I really hope it doesn't happen to keep international hockey fresh, but if it did happen, I'd watch every minute.
Wow what a contradictory statement!

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The only way I'd want this to happen would be if it helped grassroots hockey in the US. I'm not sure it would. I think a series that long would lose it's appeal to the average American and wouldn't accomplish anything more than making money. I say no.

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When would it happen? to get the best on best, you would have to assume July-Sept. I doubt many players/owners would be very happy about that.

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Of course we would. But we would be watching most other hockey events if they were on as well.

A Canada vs. US summit series just feels like a cheap money-grab, where we'll definitely be excited if it happens and look forward to it, just because it's a friggen summit series, but then you'd probably end up being disappointed in and realize how "not the same" it is and look back on it negatively.
You may be correct. When it's all said and done, we may very well end up looking back on it negatively. On the other hand, I prefer to think of how potentially earth-shattering a summit series could be and we'll all look back on it as a benchmark in the rivalry between our 2 nations.

Given the very real possibility that NHL players will no longer be participating in the 2014 Olympics, that will be one less international tournament for NHLers to meet. Staging a summit series will make up for that. Imagine a best of 5 or 7 playoff format for the summit series. It would be pretty intense. There is a whole new generation who never knew the 1972 Summit series against the Russians. A Canada-USA Summit would define the state of hockey for another generation.

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this is about playing the americans not the russians...i think the russians wanted another summit series but canada declined..
1974. we lost.


USSR Wins Series 4-1-3

* September 17: Canada 3-3 USSR played in Quebec City, Quebec
* September 19: Canada 4-1 USSR played in Toronto, Ontario
* September 21: USSR 8-5 Canada played in Winnipeg, Manitoba
* September 23: Canada 5-5 USSR played in Vancouver, British Columbia
* October 1: USSR 3-2 Canada played in Moscow
* October 3: USSR 5-2 Canada played in Moscow
* October 5: USSR 4-4 Canada played in Moscow
* October 6: USSR 3-2 Canada played in Moscow

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1974. we lost.


USSR Wins Series 4-1-3

* September 17: Canada 3-3 USSR played in Quebec City, Quebec
* September 19: Canada 4-1 USSR played in Toronto, Ontario
* September 21: USSR 8-5 Canada played in Winnipeg, Manitoba
* September 23: Canada 5-5 USSR played in Vancouver, British Columbia
* October 1: USSR 3-2 Canada played in Moscow
* October 3: USSR 5-2 Canada played in Moscow
* October 5: USSR 4-4 Canada played in Moscow
* October 6: USSR 3-2 Canada played in Moscow
That was made up of WHA players, outside of Hull, Mahovlich and Mark Howe. I don't count it.

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That was made up of WHA players, outside of Hull, Mahovlich and Mark Howe. I don't count it.
Gordie Howe??

It counts dude. And the Soviets whooped our ass.

Paul Henderson and Pat Stapleton from 72 were also on the 74 team.

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