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03-03-2010, 01:39 AM
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What's our cap situation like now?

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can't score, can't pass , can't fight, can't win.
Well...I'm looking forward to having this slug in the system.

I am not a Montreal Canadiens fan, but your team got the best of this trade. Palushaj is a sure-fire NHLer. He projects as a 3rd-line checking winger. I've watched him play this season and he is so much fun to watch. Very energetic and extremely disruptive.

I know that our teams are in different conferences and you may not know about Jay McClement, but he's a really good PK man, who can win faceoffs etc. etc. This is what Palushaj does. You'll love him. He'll love being in a hockey-crazy environment. What a terrible loss for The Blues.

By the way, his name is pronounced 'puh-LU-shy'.

And some of you are saying that he's small. Ummmm he's 6 feet tall, 185 lbs, and only 20 years old. He probably won't get taller, but he'll add 10 more pounds.

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I don't know who that is but I'm certain he's better than D'agostini.

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he wont be able to wear #8 here, thats Komisareks number

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On paper, this looks like a long-term win for us, but not for RDS. Brunet's gonna have the worst time trying to pronounce his name.

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woa, reading about him, looks like a solid prospect, sounds like he has the work ethic of gionta

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he wont be able to wear #8 here, thats Komisareks number
Mr. Komisarek.

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Well...I'm looking forward to having this slug in the system.

I am not a Montreal Canadiens fan, but your team got the best of this trade. Palushaj is a sure-fire NHLer. He projects as a 3rd-line checking winger. I've watched him play this season and he is so much fun to watch. Very energetic and extremely disruptive.

I know that our teams are in different conferences and you may not know about Jay McClement, but he's a really good PK man, who can win faceoffs etc. etc. This is what Palushaj does. You'll love him. He'll love being in a hockey-crazy environment. What a terrible loss for The Blues.

By the way, his name is pronounced 'puh-LU-shy'.

And some of you are saying that he's small. Ummmm he's 6 feet tall, 185 lbs, and only 20 years old. He probably won't get taller, but he'll add 10 more pounds.
Thanks for the info! This sounds like a win for the habs and hopefully D'agostini can turn it around for the blues the same way Latendresse has done for Minesotta.

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Well...I'm looking forward to having this slug in the system.

I am not a Montreal Canadiens fan, but your team got the best of this trade. Palushaj is a sure-fire NHLer. He projects as a 3rd-line checking winger. I've watched him play this season and he is so much fun to watch. Very energetic and extremely disruptive.

I know that our teams are in different conferences and you may not know about Jay McClement, but he's a really good PK man, who can win faceoffs etc. etc. This is what Palushaj does. You'll love him. He'll love being in a hockey-crazy environment. What a terrible loss for The Blues.

By the way, his name is pronounced 'puh-LU-shy'.

And some of you are saying that he's small. Ummmm he's 6 feet tall, 185 lbs, and only 20 years old. He probably won't get taller, but he'll add 10 more pounds.
Thanks for the information! Looks like we got the better end of the deal with this one... Props to Gauthier!

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I don't know who that is but I'm certain he's better than D'agostini.
sounds about right. moreover, he has 3 more years under boucher, with higher potential to become just as good as dagostini is now ... can't possibly be that hard.

as for dago ... he could turn it on...but what makes me doubt is all the chances/confidence this team gave him ... he was NOT mishandled (one of the few), no matter how he turns out to be.

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Yea when I think out loud, I tend to state my points and then try to think of a point that would disprove it so it makes me think more.

But you can see my original point. The perception that some of our players have no value is quite flawed. It just brings into question for me, what kind of value some of our other plays, like Spacek or Gomez, would get.
I don't see how it's flawed. D'Agostini hasn't proven more than Hensick or Lisin, or dozens of other 23-24 year olds that have been cast off for virtually nothing. Clearly, Palushaj fell out of favour in St-Louis.

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sounds about right. moreover, he has 3 more years under boucher, with higher potential to become just as good as dagostini is now ... can't possibly be that hard.

as for dago ... he could turn it on...but what makes me doubt is all the chances/confidence this team gave him ... he was NOT mishandled (one of the few), no matter how he turns out.
no kidding. We basically kept him in the minors as long as possible and then when we brought him up we immediately put him in a situation where he could succeed by running shotgun for Koivu. Didn't take long for the league to figure him out though.

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I don't see how it's flawed. D'Agostini hasn't proven more than Hensick or Lisin, or dozens of other 23-24 year olds that have been cast off for virtually nothing. Clearly, Palushaj fell out of favour in St-Louis.
I am kind of wondering the same thing. If I am a GM, D'Agostini is not a player I would be looking to acquire.

But with that being said, why did Palushaj fall out of favour? And particularly, so fast(he is in his first season in the A)?

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Yea that is his weakness right now...being too small. Good overall skill set, good speed, hands, vision. Not really playing with too much talent down in Peoria.

What's the rundown on D'agostini? Pro/Cons?
Pros:
Good Wheels
quick and deceptive release

Cons:
very Streaky
questionable hockey sense

D'ago was absolutely on fire last season when he got called up for the first time.... maybe a change of scenery is exactly what the doctor ordered. Good luck.

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I am kind of wondering the same thing. If I am a GM, D'Agostini is not a player I would be looking to acquire.

But with that being said, why did Palushaj fall out of favour? And particularly, so fast(he is in his first season in the A)?
Yeah, I have no idea about that. I have a good deal of respect for the Blues' scouting and development managerial teams too, so it's a curious case.

Above all else, what I like about this deal is that Palushaj is actually a hockey player. His hockey sense is his greatest asset, and it's tough to put a limit on players who thrive on sense. The fact that Montreal put an emphasis on hockey sense in this deal above fluff stats (as D'Agostini will likely continue to put up) is the real win here. Hopefully it's indicative of what attributes Gauthier seeks.

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Though Dags would get us at most a mid round pick (3rd/4th). However, a prospect with good long term potential? That is a good trade.

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I don't see how it's flawed. D'Agostini hasn't proven more than Hensick or Lisin, or dozens of other 23-24 year olds that have been cast off for virtually nothing. Clearly, Palushaj fell out of favour in St-Louis.
Then why didn`t St louis just pick Lisin off waivers? Maybe St-Louis actually wanted D`agostini and thought he could contribute in a meaningful way RIGHT NOW as opposed to Palushaj? Either way, even if Palushaj fell out of favour in St louis, you just don`t trade away a prospect for what is perceived to be nothing. Especially a 20-21 year old prospect. D`agostini must have been worth more than we realized.

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WOW did not think we would get much for D'Ags, but now it seems the Habs might do next to nothing tomorrow

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Then why didn`t St louis just pick Lisin off waivers? Maybe St-Louis actually wanted D`agostini and thought he could contribute in a meaningful way RIGHT NOW as opposed to Palushaj? Either way, even if Palushaj fell out of favour in St louis, you just don`t trade away a prospect for what is perceived to be nothing. Especially a 20-21 year old prospect. D`agostini must have been worth more than we realized.
I honestly don't understand this dialogue...

I stated all of this in the original post that you disagreed with. Is this conversation running after its own tail?

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Very nice trade by Gauthier.

I especially like how Palushaj played with Patches at one point. Getting a good prospect that can perhaps help out one of our own struggling prospects... great move.


I guess that St. Louis wanted somebody with a bit more experience at the NHL level. D'Ago is a poor man's (a very poor man's, some would say) Michael Ryder.

Acquiring a player like that might make sense if the Blues end up dealing Boyes, as some rumors have suggested they will.

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Mr. Boucher, meet Mr. Palushaj. Now do your thing...
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Wow !!

Aaron Polushaj....

This kid is awesome !!

He's a more talented version of Christopher ''Stone hands, I told you so'' Higgins !!

I can't believe Gauthier got him for freakin D'Agostini... Blues GM got ripped on this one wow !! Seen him a few times and you guys will love him.

The guy I wanted more is Lars Eller though...

I wanted Eller insted of McDonagh in 2007.... shame...

oh well, but I won't complain about having Polushaj



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lol, on the Blues board their all like WHAT?!?!?
I think we got more than what d'ags was worth

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Yeah, I have no idea about that. I have a good deal of respect for the Blues' scouting and development managerial teams too, so it's a curious case.

Above all else, what I like about this deal is that Palushaj is actually a hockey player. His hockey sense is his greatest asset, and it's tough to put a limit on players who thrive on sense. The fact that Montreal put an emphasis on hockey sense in this deal above fluff stats (as D'Agostini will likely continue to put up) is the real win here. Hopefully it's indicative of what attributes Gauthier seeks.
well, pouillot was considered a bust, a waste of talent, and was tagged with attitude problems and was said to have a poor work ethic. but that turned out pretty well for us didnt it ?

logic says Pa-lush-eye > dago ... but it doesnt mean its because their guy fell out of favor... are you willing to ignore the possibility of them being hyped by dago ? as crazy as it sounds, I am not... dago is still closer to become an established nhler than Pa-lush-eye... imho ...

I'd like to know what's timmins' involvment in that trade.

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I like Gauthier.
He's already made more moves than Gainey

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