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Instead of talking about all the negative stuff, was kind of drifting off, wondering if anyone can give us a projection of what type of player our prospects will be like. I don't want NCAA or any other league besides NHL so i barely know about quailer, kristo, fischer and so on. Do kind of wondering if anyone knows a similar player they will be like. This season doesn't look like it will end great so looking to the future is nice.

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Instead of talking about all the negative stuff, was kind of drifting off, wondering if anyone can give us a projection of what type of player our prospects will be like. I don't want NCAA or any other league besides NHL so i barely know about quailer, kristo, fischer and so on. Do kind of wondering if anyone knows a similar player they will be like. This season doesn't look like it will end great so looking to the future is nice.
Well I can take a stab at this but you might be disappointed as I am good with comparing prospects to NHLers, I don't understand it really since each player is their own, with their own strengths and weaknesses. I just try and watch them and track the progress they make or don't make, where they show improvements, they they still need to work on, what kind of role they are currently playing vs what level of competition they are going up against, etc....

I'll start with the forwards and look at what I project from them. My strengths are going to be with the Hamilton kids mostly, followed by the NCAAers, only saw our KHL and CHL kids 1 time each this year (saw them more last year though, Avtsin aside)

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Louis Leblanc- I project him to be a 1st line center at the high end of his development or a very good 3rd line center at the low end of his development. He plays a solid two way game, so he appears to be the kind of player that at the nhl level will be able to be slotted in just about any role on any line in any situation. He seems to have it all but will need to get stronger, which should come in time hopefully, it would be about the only concern I have for him. I got to admit I was not on board for us to pick him but I like what I've seen in limited games this year and I've heard lots of high prasie for his play. I think you could safely assume he's going to be our future 2nd line center, but if he gets stronger and his offensive game translates in the nhl, he could be a 1st liner that plays all situations, gets his nose dirty and puts points on the board.

Danny Kristo- I see Kristo as a projected 2nd line RW, like Leblanc, I see his high end development to be a possible 1st liner if everything goes right for him, but I'd say his low end development would be a 3rd or 4th liner. He has NHL speed and a good shot, if he gets stronger, fills out more and rounds out the rest of his game, he's going to be a dangerous player for us. His speed is likely his best asset but he's also got a heck of a shot, a willingness to go to the heavy traffic areas with the puck, he wants the puck all the time and he's willing to shoot from anywhere, so he creates things when he's on the ice. I have seen a good bit of him since we drafted him and I just get more and more impressed with him. I see him as a future 2nd line RW that will score goals and be a fixture on the PP, not sure if he will be a PKer or not as his speed can help him cover a lot of ground but he's not very strong and he's still learning the defensive end of things, so it's hard to project where these parts of his game will be in say 5 years from now.

Aaron Palushaj- A tough one for now, since up until tonight I only saw him once in the USHL and a bunch of times at Michigan but since he wasn't a Hab I didn't focus on him. Still, no harm in giving it a shot. I see his high end development to be a solid 2nd liner, I guess his low end would be a very good AHLer. I see him more of a possible 2nd liner if his offensive game translates, or a good 3rd liner since he works hard at both ends of the ice and does have some slick offensive skills. He's got to get stronger for sure, and according to blues fans he needs to get his nose dirty more. I thought from tonights game he was impressive and didn't seem to shy away from anything.

Alex Avtsin- Another tough one since I only saw him twice this year, but I liked what I saw. Good frame, wheels, took the body and I have heard good things about his offensvie skills. I would think that his high end development could be a 1st liner, that may be pushing it since it's based more on hype then results at this stage, and his low end is that we may never see him, despite what the positive remarks we have heard in interviews. It certainly sounds like he's coming over this summer but we'll see, hopefully he does and hopefully he's as good as he's made out to be.

Ryan White- Did not have the best year last season as he hit a wall with a big slump but in the playoffs he turned it on and then carried that right over to camp in the fall as Timmins even said he was the most improved Bulldog from last year at the season. His skating and foot speed have improved, looks to be a NHLer for sure in the not too distant future. His high end projection could be a solid 2nd liner, but it's safe to say he will have some sort of role in the NHL as he can do a lot of different things but mainly he could fit on the bottom lines, bringing energy, grit and toughness along with good hands.

Tom Pyatt- I saw him in the AHL but didn't even notice him. Didn't believe the people that said he could replace Chipchura, but as the season has gone on for him, I am damn impressed with him. He never stops moving his feet, always works hard and has great speed. I don't know where his high end upside is, as he has never wowed me personally with his offensive skills, yet he's been productive in the NHL and of late has looked much better in the NHL. His low end projection imo would be more along the lines of a 4th line energy guy, as he's going to be a PKer and someone that is strong in his own end so he stands a very good chance of being a regular in the NHL.

Steve Quailer- I haven't seen as much as the other NCAA guys but I liked what I saw, big kid that moves well, something like Blake Wheeler but not as skilled and showed very little physical game, which is going to be a knock on him in the future imo, as people often expect big bodies to crash and bang. But the good news he is skilled offensively, good shot, good speed, good hands. More of a darkhorse prospect at this point, the move to center should be an interesting one. I would guess that his upside is that of a 2nd liner that plays on the PP. Low end I would say would be a career ahler.

Ben Maxwell- I have never been a big fan of his game as he does have good skill but I want to see him get more involved physically. He is solid at both ends of the ice, and he's got some nice hands. I thought his last call up went better then his first but still doesn't look nhl ready. He has played better since coming back down, I would put his high end upside to be a good 2nd liner with a low end of a career ahler. One problem I have is that if he can't make it on the top 2 lines in the NHL, he lacks grit/toughness to be a 3rd or 4th liner, although he is solid in his own end and appears to be a smart player.

David Desharnais- I have to admit I did not give him a chance when we first signed him as I overlooked his natural skills in favor of his lack of height. I wasn't impressed in his short call up to Hamilton in his first year, but wow have I been impressed since then. He's the Dogs best forward this year, his vision is downright sick, he can really feed the puck, but also has slick hands. So much offensive skiill, he keeps getting better and better. I don't know what the future holds for him but I would say that his upside is somewhere around a good 2nd liner that is deadly on the PP. His low end projection would be a great AHLer that dominates the league.

Maxim Trunev- Another speed, smallish, skilled forward, that we don't know if or when we will ever see. That said in the limited views I've had of him, he does show some impressive skills, he's fast, got slick hands and creates things on the ice. If he comes over, I would say his upside is a 2nd liner, his low end development is that he stays in the KHL for good. Hope he comes over at some point but he's got to fill out a bit, although I thought the same thing about Grabovski.

Gabriel Dumont- Was impressed with him in the Q playoffs and Memorial Cup, on the small side and not the quickest player. Plays with grit and heart, is having a great season, producing more then I thought he would. I would say that his upper end projection would be as a solid two way 2nd liner but his low end could be a career AHLer. Hope to see him fill out more, and get faster, will have a better feel for him next year.

Brock Trotter- I saw Trotter play for Denver and was impressed with his skills but thought he would have trouble as a pro due to his lack of strength, speed, skating, and defensive game, plus talk of not working hard at times. Like Desharnais he just keeps getting better and better. I still don't think he has NHL upside but I also didn't think he would be producing as well as he has this year. Has impressive offensive skills, his hands, vision, playmaking, stickhandling and shot can all hurt you, he could find his way as a PP specialist or on the low end be a great AHLer.

Joonas Nattinen- Another tough one as I only saw him a couple times at the wjc's. Big body for sure, looks like a future 3rd line center or the low end never turns into anything for us. Our luck with Finnish draft picks this decade has not been good, but I hear good things about his play in the junior league this year and he's had a bunch of games in the sm-liiga already. Something made me think of Chris Gratton when I saw him, he looked a little slugish to me though so it's something he's got to work on.

Dustin Walsh- didn't see as much as I had hoped but still got to see him in action against Leblanc and liked what I saw. Tall and thin, he moves well and showed good hands. I heard he's had some minor injuries this year, but still has had a decent freshman season. His max upside would be hard to say at this point, as he appears to be a long term project that has some interesting tools to work with.

J T Wyman- Has really stepped up this year, he's having a very solid season in the AHL. His max upside would be a 3rd liner, but his downside would be a career AHLer. Has a good frame, good speed/skating, works hard and is solid in his own end. Can play all positions sans goalie, seems like a coaches type of player, will do what is asked of him and knows his role, while being a smart two way player. I've been questioning his offensive upside, as he hasn't really shown it and is also not physical.

Andrew Conboy- A big boy for sure, he has a hulking frame, moves well enough for a guy his size, can throw some big time hits. I think his max upside would be a good 4th liner that crashes and bangs, drops the gloves at times and perhaps chips in here and there offensively. Still needs to round out his game, he doesn't get a lot of ice time in the AHL, so his develop is progressing along slowly. I don't think he's going to be the fighter many around here seem to be under the impression he will become but he will turn heads at times with some big time hits.

Mike Cichy- Cichy is smallish but he's got a compact frame. He reminds me a bit of Mark Recchi (perhaps it's the #8 he wears), he is a pass first kind of player, good speed, works hard and is decent in his own end. A long term project, hard to say where his upside is at this stage, he's had trouble staying in the lineup, but I like what I've seen from him.

Ryan Russell- An under the radar type, Russell is very fast, always works hard, is good in his own end and on the PK. Had a breakout year last season on Chipchura's line, has not looked as good this year without him but has been playing better of late on a line with his former teammate Maxwell. His upside at this point would max out as a 3rd liner and his low end projection would be a career AHLer. I would not be surprised to see him get a game or two with the Habs in the future as a 4th liner. He is small but the Habs seem to like the speedy players that are good in their own end and work hard every night.

Olivier Fortier- Tough way to start your first year as a pro, so I don't know what to make of him. Liked his defensive zone play when he was in the Q, but didn't like that he's easily knocked off the puck and there's been questions about his offensive upside.

Dany Masse- Have seen him a few times this year and last year. Liked what I saw from him in the Q playoffs. But his skating and lack of foot speed are a concern. But he apppears to be a good face-off guy, hard worked, solid in his own end.

Philippe Lefebvre- haven't seen as much, didn't stand out in the playoffs/memorial cup last year. But he'll have another year in the Q to work on his offensive game. Solid frame, was picked 2nd overall in the '07 Q draft, so he had a lot of hype from midget if I recall correctly. said to be a solid defensive player, so if everything worked out for him, I would think his max upside is a 3rd liner, downside a career ahler.

Patrick Johnson- not sure why the Habs took a chance on the undersized forward, he plays with heart, never stops working, is gritty despite small frame and good in his own end. But has regressed since his freshman year, seems unlikely to get a contract unless he has a big time senior year.


I can do the defensemen/goalies tomorrow.

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Great post montreal.

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Is David Fischer pretty well a bust now? Have heard next to nothing about him in the passed 2 years.

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Man montreal, incredible. Thanks a lot. There's so many people who want to know about our prospects and you're basically throwing it all out there. Thanks a lot, exactly what i was hoping for, and you're the guru with this stuff, we all appreciate it!


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P K Subban- I used to get a lot of heat when I started ranking Subban as our top prospect over McDonagh and Pacioretty less then a year after the draft. People now see that we have a true top notch prospect in our system, and Price aside could end up the best draft pick the Habs have made since Patrick Roy. The max upside on Subban is unknown, the sky really is the limit for him. Yes he has some work to do on his defensive game, but it hasn't been anywhere near the problem that some people at HF seem to think it was and yes I think he needs to mature a bit, as he does tend to yap to the refs at times, not something I really like to see. That said he can do so much on the ice, he's got such an impressive mix of natural skills and physical abilities. He's so damn fast, strong, has a booming shot, can move the puck, take the body, doesn't shy away from anything or anyone.

Mac Bennett- Only saw him once this year, but I have talked to some USHL fans about him, I love what I saw from him and think his max upside is very high, a top pairing D, if his offensive game translates. His low end projection would be a career AHLer I guess. He skates well with good speed, can rush the puck up ice, but what impresses me the most is the amount of poise he plays with, just looks unshakeable when he has the puck in his own end, can move it up ice with ease. I don't think he's going to be a crash and banger or known for his hitting, but I expect him to be a guy that is great in his own end and on the PK, while possiblly being on the PP. I will get a better feel for him next year at Michigan since they are on tv a good bit.

Yannick Weber- I was so impressed with Weber last year, but this year he's disappointed. I would say his max upside is a 2nd pairing D that is more of a PP specialist, with his low end projection to be a career AHLer. He does have impressive offensive skills, as he has such a great shot and can move the puck for sure. His defensvie game has gotten better and he's more physical but imo he needs to get stronger, fill out more and get quicker. Hopefully he can get back on track, another year in Hamilton should be good for him.

Mathieu Carle- I wanted the Habs to draft Carle and he hasn't disappointed with his play on the ice, as he is an offensive threat on the ice with his passing abilities and pinching in down low. His max upside would be a 2nd pairing D that excells on the PP, his low end would be a career AHLer as injuries have to be a concern since he's been injured every year since turning pro. This year was his best in Hamilton, he was looking confident and was solid in his NHL debut. Will be interesting to see what happens with him next year since he has to clear waivers.

David Fischer- The mystery man, I have seen him more then any other current prospect thats not turned pro and I don't even know what to make of him. He's got size, as he's tall at 6'4 but lacks strength, he is a great skater with good speed, he's smart positionally and can move the puck. He has no shot power, almost zero physical game and when pressured with the puck he tends to make bad passes. I do think the Habs will sign him this summer and he will be a Bulldog next season, we'll see what he can at the next level. His max upside is a tough one as I see him at his best as a guy like Wade Redden, while I don't think he will ever reach that level, I do think he could be a solid AHLer on the low end of his development. He's going to be a kid that you look to for the PK but I don't see him being used on the PP especially when you look at the other RD prospects like Subban/Carle/Weber who all are PP guys. A defensive defensemen, but he's got to get stronger as his lack of a physical game is a big concern for a stay at home type.

Joe Stejskal- My darkhorse D prospect, Stejskal is a hard worker but is also a smart positional player. He has a booming shot but I don't think he's going to be a guy you see as a regular on the PP, but should be a regular on the PK as he works hard, moves well, has a solid frame, and is the most physical player in our system. His max upside would be a 2nd pairing, aggressive physically, PK specialist, if his offensive game translates at least somewhat. His low end would be a career AHLer. My guess would be that he will go back to the NCAA for his last season before turning pro in '11-'12. He's one of the top D in the ECAC this year, although he does seem to have cut back on the physical play as he actually was too physical, he would often try to hit everything that came into his sights, I've seen him have shifts where he would throw maybe 5 nice hits, some players don't have that many in a week.

Greg Pateryn- Has looked better this year, a long term project, he has a good frame, moves well, with good speed. He projects to be a solid two way D, he's got some offensvie skills (despite his lack of production), he will take the body for sure, and he's solid in his own end. His max upside would be a 2nd pairing D that plays a strong two way game (he's on the PP at Michigan but sees little PK time) his low end would be a career AHLer. I would think he will likely be at Michigan for 2 more years, but I like what i've seen, just need to see more of it and better. Next year is a big one for him, it's not unusal for underclassman to struggle to get ice time especially on the bigger programs, but next year he's going to be an upperclassman and that's when he needs to not only be a regular, but to be more of an impact player.

Nichlas Torp- Have not seen Torp since the wjc's, he's smallish but plays big, a physically aggressive D for sure. He's having a good year in the SEL from what I'm told, has set career highs across the board. Injuries have been a problem for him in the past, and will remain a concern due to the style of play. His max uspide I don't think I could say, perhaps a strong 3rd pairing D that is used on the PK. His low end projection would be that we never see him over here. That said after another year in the SEL next season, it will be interesting to see if he will come over.

Alexei Emelin- I know most think we will never see him over here, so his low end projection is easily that, but his high end upside could be a solid 2nd pairing D. It's been said that the Habs will make a push for him to come over this summer, and I hear he's having his best season since joining AK Bars. At this point who knows what will happen with him, if anything. If he does come over, which seems unlikely, the problem is that you would assume he will not go to the AHL, so it will be hard for him to land a roster spot but perhaps could be kept on as a 7th D. At this point it's all wild speculation, he's a physical D for sure and the Habs could use more physical players for sure.

Shawn Belle- won't be a prospect for much longer since he's 25, but he works hard, is a solid AHLer for sure and always sticks up for his teammates. His max upside is tough, perhaps he could turn into a bottom pairing D, but that seems questionable at best. He may be able to catch on as a 7th D as he has size, mobility, speed, and toughness. His low end projection would be a career AHLer.

Scott Kishel- An undersized D, Kishel has made good improvements in his defensive play, and like Patyern, he will need to step it up next year as he will also be an upperclassman. His max upside is a 2nd pairing D, if everything works out for him, he could be a solid two way type that can move the puck and sees time on the PP. His low end development could be a career ECHLer. At this point it's hard to say since he's not even a regular, but he does look better this year and as a long term project, it's hard to saw where his game might be in 4 years from now.


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Cedrick Desjardins- Like Desharnais, I underrated Desjardins when we signed him. He was solid last year in his first full season in Hamilton, but this year he's really turned it on. It's hard to say what his max upside is, as he walked on a very good Hamilton team this year and last (they look to have around 100 wins over that span) so playing on a good team will help his numbers, but he's also been a big reason for a number of those wins, especially this year. Looks funny when you see the top 2 goalies in the AHL this year, stats wise, are both from Hamilton. That said he's cut down on the wandering, shaky puck handling behind the net, which is good to see. His max upside would be an NHL starter, while his downside would be a career AHLer.

Robert Mayer- Another FA signee goalie prospect, Mayer I have not been impressed with but he's having a solid rookie year in the ECHL on a good team. I am impressed that he wins most of his starts, even though he's on one of the top teams in the ECHL, it's aways a good sign to see a 20 year old rookie get wins. The funny part is that he had a 2 game win streak, followed by a 3 game win streak, followed by a 4 game win streak, followed by a 5 game win streak. The knock on him in the Q as his lack of consistency, but he seems to be finding his way and could work his way up to being a regular in the AHL in a year or two. I don't know what his max upside is, I'm not very good with goalies, but my wild guess at this point would be a AHL starter with his downside being a career ECHLer.

Jason Missiaen- I have seen him a few times since we drafted him, and I still don't really know what the Habs saw in him, other then his height. I haven't been overly impressed with him, every time I saw him, he'd make some really good saves but then let in at least one or more questionable goals. I have no clue what his upside is, perhaps an AHL starter. His low end could be working at McDonald's I guess. We will see what the Habs do with him as he has to be signed before June 1st, and he is currently in a major slump, losing 13 of his last 15 starts. He does see a ton of rubber (2000 shots this year, ouch) and every time I saw him, I felt bad for him, as the defense in front of him was brutal. I assume he will be signed and either sent back to the OHL as an overager or he will end up in the ECHL.

Petteri Simila- I only saw him once, against Missiaen, and he made Missiaen look like a future star compared to him, so it's safe to say I wasn't impressed. He's big but I also don't see what the Habs saw in him that they would trade a 6th rounder to draft him in the 7th round. But we'll see as it appears he's doing much better since going back to Finland, now the question is will we ever see him back over here, and will we even want to.

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Is David Fischer pretty well a bust now? Have heard next to nothing about him in the passed 2 years.
I will hold off on calling him a bust just yet, as he does have some good tools to work with. It's strange cause there's a number of high draft picks at Minnesota and almost all of them are struggling with their development, and at least one GM has spoken out against the program. (NYI gm, who have 2 1st round picks at Minny over a couple years)

So is Fischer's slow development related to the program he's at? Fischer stated in an interview last summer, that he is to blame that he didn't work hard enough and that to set off alarm bells, especially after he had a decent season last year only to take a step backwards this season.

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Man montreal, incredible. Thanks a lot. There's so many people who want to know about our prospects and you're basically throwing it all out there. Thanks a lot, exactly what i was hoping for, and you're the guru with this stuff, we all appreciate it!
Thanks. I have been doing list for a long time now, I enjoy discussing our prospects, so i'm glad that others like to read about our prospects. It's all just one mans opinion and I make my fair share of mistakes just like everyone else. For me, I just try to watch them as much as possible, I make sure I see every prospect play a game at some point, but mostly I just focus on the AHL and NCAA guys.

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Thanks. I have been doing list for a long time now, I enjoy discussing our prospects, so i'm glad that others like to read about our prospects. It's all just one mans opinion and I make my fair share of mistakes just like everyone else. For me, I just try to watch them as much as possible, I make sure I see every prospect play a game at some point, but mostly I just focus on the AHL and NCAA guys.
Would these uhmm very very loose projections be somewhat accurate based on your scouting report?

Defensemen

P K Subban- Brian Campbell?

Mac Bennett- Kimmo Timonen? Big guess here.

Yannick Weber-MAB?

Mathieu Carle- Preissing?

David Fischer- Anyone's guess really.

Joe Stejskal- Orpik? Komisarek?

Greg Pateryn- No idea

Nichlas Torp- Zanon? Dunno, guess here.

Alexei Emelin- Didn't people say Kasparaitis?

Shawn Belle- Not worth figuring out a 7th D to be honest lol

Scott Kishel- No clue.

Forwards are way too hard to guess but I'd try later if these end up somewhat decent lol

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Just wanted to get in here and praise Kristo's play at the World Juniors. Kid looked great!

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Wow amazing lists montreal, its always a pleasure to read your scouting reports.

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Wow, Montreal, thanks for that list - You truly bring a lot to these boards, and it is widely appreciated I'm sure.

My only contention is your assessment of Maxwell - stating that he lacks the toughness to be an effective 3rd/4th liner. I think he's got the kind of natural awareness/hockey sense that isn't easily taught and can be effective in a defensive role. I think if his offense doesn't pan out he can still contribute to an NHL team, much like our own Dominic Moore.

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Would these uhmm very very loose projections be somewhat accurate based on your scouting report?

Defensemen

P K Subban- Brian Campbell?

Mac Bennett- Kimmo Timonen? Big guess here.

Yannick Weber-MAB?

Mathieu Carle- Preissing?

David Fischer- Anyone's guess really.

Joe Stejskal- Orpik? Komisarek?

Greg Pateryn- No idea

Nichlas Torp- Zanon? Dunno, guess here.

Alexei Emelin- Didn't people say Kasparaitis?

Shawn Belle- Not worth figuring out a 7th D to be honest lol

Scott Kishel- No clue.

Forwards are way too hard to guess but I'd try later if these end up somewhat decent lol
No way Bennet gets close to Timmonen. Stejskal will probably be closer to Exelby than Orpik or Komi.

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Awesome read, thanks a ton montreal!

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Wow, Montreal, thanks for that list - You truly bring a lot to these boards, and it is widely appreciated I'm sure.

My only contention is your assessment of Maxwell - stating that he lacks the toughness to be an effective 3rd/4th liner. I think he's got the kind of natural awareness/hockey sense that isn't easily taught and can be effective in a defensive role. I think if his offense doesn't pan out he can still contribute to an NHL team, much like our own Dominic Moore.
Yes I agree he has the hockey sense but my concern is that he is so passive that may hamper him in being effective on the bottom lines. I like Moore, but this team going forward MUST find a way to get tougher/gritter/harder to play against, and with the way our top 6 is looking for the next few years, it's got to come from the bottom then. Moore is a stop gap and that's fine, you need those types to fill holes from time to time. Maxwell is a smart player, at both ends of the ice, and he's got good hands, so there's hope for him but at the NHL level, his passive game looks to be giving him problems as he has not been very effective at all. Granted as I said I do think he looked better in his previous recall, then he did during last years recall were he really looked out of place.

So I do wonder, if he isn't going to get his nose dirty, and imo you more or less have to, if your going to remain a fixture on the bottom lines (cause it's not likely your going to unseat one of Pleks/Gomer/Cammer/Gio/BP/Akosty) barring any changes to the team in the future. Maxwell is a smart hard working player, but so is Ryan White and Tom Pyatt, and they bring jam along with being possible future bottom line players for us. Going forward Maxwell will need to outplay these two along with others to secure a regualar spot in the lineup and that won't be easy.

That said, he has shown good skills in the AHL, and another year with the Dogs won't hurt.

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Would these uhmm very very loose projections be somewhat accurate based on your scouting report?

Defensemen

P K Subban- Brian Campbell?

Mac Bennett- Kimmo Timonen? Big guess here.

Yannick Weber-MAB?

Mathieu Carle- Preissing?

David Fischer- Anyone's guess really.

Joe Stejskal- Orpik? Komisarek?

Greg Pateryn- No idea

Nichlas Torp- Zanon? Dunno, guess here.

Alexei Emelin- Didn't people say Kasparaitis?

Shawn Belle- Not worth figuring out a 7th D to be honest lol

Scott Kishel- No clue.

Forwards are way too hard to guess but I'd try later if these end up somewhat decent lol
Subban I keep hearing Mike Green as a reference, perhaps that's a good one, not sure I like Green or Campbell, as I hope Subban has a better defensive game, and I fully expect him to bring more grit then they do, as he can dish some nice hits, although I would like to see him do that more. Plus he will not back down or shy away from the physical play.

Bennett I couldn't say, maybe something like Pual Martin in NJ but right now that's not based off very much. In another year I'll have a better feel for him.

Weber-MAB, I kind of like that one. I know in the past there was talk of a Streit light, but either one, I'd be happy if Weber was anything close to producing like they have.

Carle is a tough one, not sure who i'd compare him to

Fischer, I'm hoping that Boucher can work with him over the next 2 years or so and perhaps he can bring out the better qualities since he does have the tools but can't seem to put it all together.

Stejskal reminds me a little of Emelin in that both are so aggressive in taking the body, not sure who in the NHL i'd compare him to though

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No way Bennet gets close to Timmonen. Stejskal will probably be closer to Exelby than Orpik or Komi.
I meant play style of play.

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Subban I keep hearing Mike Green as a reference, perhaps that's a good one, not sure I like Green or Campbell, as I hope Subban has a better defensive game, and I fully expect him to bring more grit then they do, as he can dish some nice hits, although I would like to see him do that more. Plus he will not back down or shy away from the physical play.

Bennett I couldn't say, maybe something like Pual Martin in NJ but right now that's not based off very much. In another year I'll have a better feel for him.

Weber-MAB, I kind of like that one. I know in the past there was talk of a Streit light, but either one, I'd be happy if Weber was anything close to producing like they have.

Carle is a tough one, not sure who i'd compare him to

Fischer, I'm hoping that Boucher can work with him over the next 2 years or so and perhaps he can bring out the better qualities since he does have the tools but can't seem to put it all together.

Stejskal reminds me a little of Emelin in that both are so aggressive in taking the body, not sure who in the NHL i'd compare him to though
I thought campbell cuz of well, offensive d, smooth skater, both use the spin-o-rama and we've seen campbell lay some good hits, fair defensively and well same height too no? Felt like a good fit.

I said Timmonen cuz i'm thinking of a fluid skater, offensive d, good hockey sense and undersized. I figured a similar impact player or something fit, but it was merely a guess.

Weber-MAB...just seemed right. Kind of all over the map here cuz these guys can be impact players on a team(with the right PP) or 7th D-man. They need the right environment. Not to mention they both seem like PP specialists who'd play a reduced role 5 on 5 due to their size.

the rest well, not much i can say.

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