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03-06-2010, 04:45 AM
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LS, I normally don't dare to disagree with you because you know your facts inside and out, but I feel that I must here.

The score of this game was irrelevant. We did not need two points, what we needed was to send a message that this sort of stuff will no longer be tolerated.
you keep going on about this...why do we not need the two points when Phoenix is only 10 points behind us? If we had lost that game we would only have an 8 point lead...so your logic really does not work.

It was pretty obvious that the Sharks responded the right way, they hit harder, they were getting in their ears the rest of the game (even Joe asked someone if he wanted to go) AND they responded the best way a team can after a dirty hit, by WINNING.

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If someone unleashes the beasts on our team( Thornton, Heatley, Marleau). We will be unstoppable.

I haven't seen Thornton, HEatley chirp at the other team for some time now.

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LS, I normally don't dare to disagree with you because you know your facts inside and out, but I feel that I must here.

The score of this game was irrelevant. We did not need two points, what we needed was to send a message that this sort of stuff will no longer be tolerated.
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you keep going on about this...why do we not need the two points when Phoenix is only 10 points behind us? If we had lost that game we would only have an 8 point lead...so your logic really does not work.

It was pretty obvious that the Sharks responded the right way, they hit harder, they were getting in their ears the rest of the game (even Joe asked someone if he wanted to go) AND they responded the best way a team can after a dirty hit, by WINNING.
USF - guess you missed McLellan's statement in the post game news links thread that he linked how the team responded by "buckling down", getting physical and winning.

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USF - guess you missed McLellan's statement in the post game news links thread that he linked how the team responded by "buckling down", getting physical and winning.
exactly, mclellan doesn't care about sending "messages" in a game, his way of sending a message to the other team is to win the game. the same mentality that the wings employ.

if you beat a team on the score board, they will start to think twice about trying to play a rough game with the sharks, because they will make them pay on the score board.

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Well "Yappy Lappy" got what he deserved, I know alot of us wanted someone to feed him his lunch but it would have turned into a pp for the habs. Lapierre has his gloves cemented on, so he wasn't gonna go with anyone. The sharks responded well though with physicality and intensity and came back.

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03-06-2010, 01:52 PM
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The best way to stop this kind of crap is to suspend him until the injured player comes back.

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The best way to stop this kind of crap is to suspend him until the injured player comes back.
It will never happen because that's a system that's too easy to abuse. let's say a Sharks top 6 forward injures a Ducks AHL fill in...you think that AHL guy is going to play again that season?

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It will never happen because that's a system that's too easy to abuse. let's say a Sharks top 6 forward injures a Ducks AHL fill in...you think that AHL guy is going to play again that season?
To add to that; Star players almost never get suspended as it is. It would be an even higher bar if say there were any chance Crosby was gonna get suspended for half a season for example.

Sounds good, but it would never work.

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exactly, mclellan doesn't care about sending "messages" in a game, his way of sending a message to the other team is to win the game. the same mentality that the wings employ.

if you beat a team on the score board, they will start to think twice about trying to play a rough game with the sharks, because they will make them pay on the score board.
Exactly, especially because even if "two points don't matter," responding the way they did to this hit is the way they need/should respond in the playoffs. If they responded by taking dumb penalties, it wouldn't give me faith that in the playoffs they could respond by doing something other than hurting the team. This way they showed they can respond in a way that really punishes the opponent, particularly if it sends them home for the summer (which beating Montreal helped do to them).

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1 thing people seem to keep on forgetting in this situation, is almost 100% of the time, this call would result in a 5 min power play for the sharks. so why ruin the 5 min power play with a stupid retaliatory penalty?

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1 thing people seem to keep on forgetting in this situation, is almost 100% of the time, this call would result in a 5 min power play for the sharks. so why ruin the 5 min power play with a stupid retaliatory penalty?
You are correct about it being a major as an injury resulted from the play. It's in the rulebook that way. The Sharks' fans should know this as this happened with Cheechoo/Eaton.

The one thing on the major is that if there is any confrontation afterwards, refs will frequently issue a minor (roughing or unsportsmanlike) to the team with the injured player to mitigate the subsequent 5min PP. 4on4 for 2min and 5on4 for 3min.

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LS, I normally don't dare to disagree with you because you know your facts inside and out, but I feel that I must here.

The score of this game was irrelevant. We did not need two points, what we needed was to send a message that this sort of stuff will no longer be tolerated.
You are right. Just the experience of being in a spirited and scrappy game is worth more than the 2 points too.... and you think you'd wanna stick up for a guy like Nichol who constantly competes harder than anyone else on the team and is always defending his guys no matter how tough or huge the opposition may be. I wonder how he feels about it, maybe he comes back and doesn't feel like a team player anymore. I know that sounds a little crazy, but stuff like that does happen... It's supposed to be a team.

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You're right, that does sound a little crazy.

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2 points might not matter that much to US, but not getting it definitely matters to montreal. 2 points for them means they have a 2 point lead for the 8th spot. Right now they're tied with the panthers for 8th.

It also means they'd be tied with New York, giving them a chance to move up to 7th if the rangers lost another one that the habs win.

So in a way it means that if you do any weird **** to us you just aren't gonna make the playoffs.

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Read Pollak's latest blog on Nichol. Good interview. We need to re-sign Nichol badly next season. Definitely a character player for that 4th line.

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Read Pollak's latest blog on Nichol. Good interview. We need to re-sign Nichol badly next season. Definitely a character player for that 4th line.
That article

Such a classy guy off the ice.

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Yeah, that was a good UFA signing by DW. Hopefully, he re-ups for around the same amount, if not a slight raise to 850K max.

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Yeah, that was a good UFA signing by DW. Hopefully, he re-ups for around the same amount, if not a slight raise to 850K max.
Better hope he likes staying in San Jose and winning games, because he's just about doubled his value.

I see guys all over the league that don't have the skills, let alone the grit, making $1.2-2 million.

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2 points might not matter that much to US, but not getting it definitely matters to montreal. 2 points for them means they have a 2 point lead for the 8th spot. Right now they're tied with the panthers for 8th.

It also means they'd be tied with New York, giving them a chance to move up to 7th if the rangers lost another one that the habs win.

So in a way it means that if you do any weird **** to us you just aren't gonna make the playoffs.
Exactly, Montreal is tied with two other teams for 8th and sitting at 10th on tie-breakers. 17 games left to play and they're competing with teams that have a game or 3 more left. It will be interesting to look back at this in April and see how much this game mattered to the Habs.

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1 thing people seem to keep on forgetting in this situation, is almost 100% of the time, this call would result in a 5 min power play for the sharks. so why ruin the 5 min power play with a stupid retaliatory penalty?
But there wasn't. No 5 minute penalty, no 2 minute penalty, no nothing. woulda shoulda coulda doesn't mean anything.

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But there wasn't. No 5 minute penalty, no 2 minute penalty, no nothing. woulda shoulda coulda doesn't mean anything.
so...how do you suggest the players figure out that the reffs aren't calling a penalty on the boarding?

and once they do figure that out, is it worth it to lose the powerplay with some dumb penalty?

I like the way the sharks handled it. They fought back on the scoreboard and also got much chippier without doing anything too stupid.

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so...how do you suggest the players figure out that the reffs aren't calling a penalty on the boarding?
Well, if nothing is called after the end of the play, I don't think it's being called.

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and once they do figure that out, is it worth it to lose the powerplay with some dumb penalty?

I like the way the sharks handled it. They fought back on the scoreboard and also got much chippier without doing anything too stupid.
This has happened the last couple of years. The book on the sharks is if you hit them hard enough, they put their tails between their legs and stop playing.

If your happy with the way the sharks handled this that's fine. But I'm not, they still have the same issues and problems they've had the last couple of years.

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Read Pollak's latest blog on Nichol. Good interview. We need to re-sign Nichol badly next season. Definitely a character player for that 4th line.
TOTALLY AGREE!!!

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Well, if nothing is called after the end of the play, I don't think it's being called.



This has happened the last couple of years. The book on the sharks is if you hit them hard enough, they put their tails between their legs and stop playing.

If your happy with the way the sharks handled this that's fine. But I'm not, they still have the same issues and problems they've had the last couple of years.
did they stop playing and put there tails between there legs? no they did not, they started to play a bit rougher and started to play to put the team down, where it hurts the most and that is on the score board.

but i guess coming from behind with about 10 minutes left in the 3rd period now is putting there tails between there legs and stop playing.

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did they stop playing and put there tails between there legs? no they did not, they started to play a bit rougher and started to play to put the team down, where it hurts the most and that is on the score board.
They were playing against Montreal though. We all know it has happened in the playoffs before and it worked greatly for those teams.

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