lol skating, throwing the body and taking hits will gas you regardless. Not to mention he isn't one of the most fluent skaters I've ever seen. Good to see these guys square off, if one could call it that. Clearly carks wasn't too keen on scrapping. Of course that makes him a "pansy". I believe they have a similar fighting style and mentality. Makes for a good show. But c'mon leafers, give your heads a shake. Figures you guys are more obnoxious online. See you in the playoffs sooon??
Dude... it was 5 seconds difference... what did Carkner do in those extra 5 seconds that made it so hard for him to challenge Orr?
how great would it have been if Hanson and Fisher also went at it?
I'm fairly certain Hanson would have been fed a few, but seriously, 3 simultaneous fights? That'd have been amazing to see
I see we're in 'moral victory' territory for certain leaf fans once again...
Winning 2-1 in the shootout with a line-up that some Sens fans (check the GDT in your own boards) lovingly-dubbed as the Toronto Marlies is a "moral victory"?
Side note: Garry Galley should get together with Jack Edwards and form the biggest homer announcing duo. His color commentary during that clip was embarrassing. Built-in excuse for Carkner, saying that he'd been on for a long shift, which has since been debunked and then saying that Orr held up "four" fingers. Perhaps Galley should get closer to the monitor or head over to Lenscrafters for a new prescription.
Garry Galley a homer? He's one of the most un-biased announcers i've ever listened to. He never picks sides and isn't a fanboy. Ridiculous.
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Winning 2-1 in the shootout with a line-up that some Sens fans (check the GDT in your own boards) lovingly-dubbed as the Toronto Marlies is a "moral victory"?
Beating a Sens team with two of our core players injured, along with many players suffering with the flu, in the shootout, while our player unluckily hits a post.
Winning 2-1 in the shootout with a line-up that some Sens fans (check the GDT in your own boards) lovingly-dubbed as the Toronto Marlies is a "moral victory"?
I'm sorry they hurt your feelings. And yes, it is a moral victory. As I alluded to, the outcome of the fight seems far more important to certain leaf fans than the win.
At any rate, clearly Carkner didn't want to fight tonight, and I don't blame him. The last time Orr goaded him into a fight he lost, turned the momentum over to Toronto, which subsequently lost us the game. Clouston most likely told him before tonight's game that priority #1 is winning (especially since we have yet to win a game since the olympic break).
I'm sorry they hurt your feelings. And yes, it is a moral victory. As I alluded to, the outcome of the fight seems far more important to certain leaf fans than the win.
Not in the slightest. It felt good to see the fans in Ottawa cheering on the "Marlies" in their victory over the Sens.
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At any rate, clearly Carkner didn't want to fight tonight, and I don't blame him. The last time Orr goaded him into a fight he lost, turned the momentum over to Toronto, which subsequently lost us the game. Clouston most likely told him before tonight's game that priority #1 is winning (especially since we have yet to win a game since the olympic break).
Now this part I can agree with. If Ottawa had to shorten the bench due to the flu, it would make very little sense for one of their d-men to take himself off the ice for 5 minutes so I can understand why Carkner might have been under orders not to engage in a fight. Forget about losing the momentum, it makes no sense at all to overplay your other d-men if you're already expecting a long night with a shortened bench to begin with.
Winning 2-1 in the shootout with a line-up that some Sens fans (check the GDT in your own boards) lovingly-dubbed as the Toronto Marlies is a "moral victory"?
A lot of Leafs fans call them the Marlies as well. So, whatever. And if you actually read the first page, people knew it wasn't going to be an easy game.
Neil suffers from Darcy Tucker syndrome, he thinks he's a good hockey player and forgets he's a role player, he won't fight heavyweights... or even some middle weights, guys like Schenn..... no problem though
Darcy Tucker has had 6 seperate 20+ goal seasons. Please don't compare him to Neil.
Both are beasts no need for the chirps from the fans...carkner and orr will scrap, anywhere, anytime...props to all.....the three fingers were out of emotion; orr is usually pretty classy, considering his tough style...both can play a regular shift. not too often you will blame a goal or mistake on Orr or Carkner. They know there role and play it well, enough said.
I'm going to have to agree with this. As much as I want to see Orr knock out Carkner again, I see Carks being much more prepared for him this time. Who knows though.
Wow...I totaly was off on the results of this one. Never expected Carkner to be tenative like that. I thought he would change the gameplan up, butnever though he was fight just not to get hit with zero offense.
Darcy Tucker has had 6 seperate 20+ goal seasons. Please don't compare him to Neil.
Don't get me wrong, I was a HUGE darcy Tucker fan, I have a signed jersey and everything, but he changed his style drastically and wanted to be a scored, and inturn he became much less useful. Talent wise, Tucker >>> Neil but Neil is an actual "tough guy" and he no picks his spots with certain players because he's under the impression he's too valuable..... unless he's much stronger than his opponent.
Galley is hilarious. If anybody is calling him "unbiased", you're a Sens fan.
Just look at the poster suggesting that. It's the same 'unbiased' fan that tried to convince everyone Carkner slipped during the last fight against Orr when he was actually put to sleep.
lol skating, throwing the body and taking hits will gas you regardless. Not to mention he isn't one of the most fluent skaters I've ever seen. Good to see these guys square off, if one could call it that. Clearly carks wasn't too keen on scrapping. Of course that makes him a "pansy". I believe they have a similar fighting style and mentality. Makes for a good show. But c'mon leafers, give your heads a shake. Figures you guys are more obnoxious online. See you in the playoffs sooon??
That was a nothing fight, Carkner may have looked tentative, but Orr had just taken a penalty, it is standard to not give up the power play for all you hockey geniuses that post on this board. As for after fight started, Orr had Carkner in the same place as first fight, a handful of jersey at the right armpit, I sure any of you keyboard tough guys would just start throwing big rights at that point.
Orr looked like an idiot putting his fingers in the air after such a nothing fight, they have one more game and I am sure we will see a more willing Carkner in that one, but it will have to be before the 3rd period because Orr does not play after the second.
Toronto sucks, and I am a Leafs fan and I would still rather have Carkner on my team.
Orr plays a decent amount. And all he needs is 3 shifts to beat Carkners ass.
Yeah right, because that was the fight that defined Orr vs Carkner, right? That wasn't even a real fight, right now it's Orr who has beaten Carkner to a pulp twice and Carkner who made Orr's face look like a pizza once, this last one was a shoving match and Orr goes around putting 3 fingers up? I took him for having more respect than that being the reigning heavyweight in the league, I'm actually really surprised that he would do something like that. That's the buzz around here this morning, it's not that Orr did anything wrong in the 'fight', it wasn't much, it was what he did after the fight when he must have known that that was anything but a big victory.
The fans in here I'm much less surprised about (lol at the nerd who said Orr doesn't need to bother with the 'pansy' Carkner anymore). Orr made a mistake, got caught up in the moment, made himself look like an arse and I'm sure he realizes it this morning.
sooon??
