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06-07-2010, 08:55 PM
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It would be awkward to have 25 teams anyway. Avtomobilist is not going anywhere and it would be a shame if it would get kicked out for the sake of having a team in a small Czech town.

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06-08-2010, 12:46 AM
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Czech Hockey Federation didn't allow Hradec Kralove to join KHL
http://hokej.cz/index.php?view=clanek&lng=CZ&id=48356

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06-08-2010, 04:20 AM
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Question for russian posters here:

Is there any chance that directors of KHL could give this team permision to play KHL without consent of czech federation? Everything is ready, money and other things, but czech idiotic hockey federation for some reason declined to give them it's consent.
I doubt it, it probably wouldnīt be good for the reputation of the league going against one of the strongest European federations.

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06-08-2010, 07:15 AM
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It would be awkward to have 25 teams anyway. Avtomobilist is not going anywhere and it would be a shame if it would get kicked out for the sake of having a team in a small Czech town.
And what's situation of Avtomobolist right now?

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06-08-2010, 11:39 AM
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especially considering HC Lev would be an expansion team, and not even a member of the federation (yet)
KHL is a member of IIHF, complaint from Czhech federation would result in suspension of all the players on the team and possibly further sanctions for the whole league...who needs it?

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06-08-2010, 11:41 AM
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KHL is an IIHF member? RSL stopped in 2006, didnt realize they joined back

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And what's situation of Avtomobolist right now?
They're fine now, after the regional government stepped in. There was a deadline set for Avto to find guaranteed funding for next season, or else...

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06-08-2010, 03:30 PM
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KHL is a member of IIHF, complaint from Czhech federation would result in suspension of all the players on the team and possibly further sanctions for the whole league...who needs it?
if my memory doesnt deceive me, FHR is part of IIHF, KHL is not.

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if my memory doesnt deceive me, FHR is part of IIHF, KHL is not.
sorry, thanks for correcting me, but the fact remains - KHL cannot have players on their teams who are suspended by IIHF

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sorry, thanks for correcting me, but the fact remains - KHL cannot have players on their teams who are suspended by IIHF
There is no chance czech federation would complaint it, they are just too lazy to do anything

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the fact remains - KHL cannot have players on their teams who are suspended by IIHF
says who? hockey police?
this would only affect said players national team eligibility, I reckon

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says who? hockey police?
this would only affect said players national team eligibility, I reckon
and u think players will sign for that reason? IIHF can go further and suspend all KHL players from international competition.

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06-09-2010, 07:36 AM
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and u think players will sign for that reason? IIHF can go further and suspend all KHL players from international competition.
I don't think IIHF would even consider that... who would play at those international competitions then?

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Officially HC Lev Hradec Kralove will not play KHL next year.
http://hokej.idnes.cz/vedeni-ruske-l...817_evropa_lge

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and u think players will sign for that reason? IIHF can go further and suspend all KHL players from international competition.
can I have what you're smoking?

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can I have what you're smoking?
sure, come on down

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The never ending story of HC Lev continues. After they failed to persuade the Czech hockey federation, i.a. by offering them 100 million CZK from their budget for the development of Czech hockey, the team moved from Hradec Kralove to Poprad, Slovakia. The Slovak hockey federation gave permision to the club to join KHL. However Shalaev of KHL said something along the lines that the league has to publish the definitive calendar of the 2010–11 season in the first week of July and although it's not impossible that Lev Poprad might join the league for the upcoming season, it's highly unlikely since they already don't have time to adjust the calendar of the games.

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07-05-2010, 10:47 AM
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The never ending story of HC Lev continues. After they failed to persuade the Czech hockey federation, i.a. by offering them 100 million CZK from their budget for the development of Czech hockey, the team moved from Hradec Kralove to Poprad, Slovakia. The Slovak hockey federation gave permision to the club to join KHL. However Shalaev of KHL said something along the lines that the league has to publish the definitive calendar of the 2010–11 season in the first week of July and although it's not impossible that Lev Poprad might join the league for the upcoming season, it's highly unlikely since they already don't have time to adjust the calendar of the games.

they had two calenders at hand in case Budivelnik would have made it, but....MAKE IT STOP, MAKE IT STOP, MAKE IT STOP!!!

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07-05-2010, 11:13 AM
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they had two calenders at hand in case Budivelnik would have made it, but....MAKE IT STOP, MAKE IT STOP, MAKE IT STOP!!!

indeed, its just a very bad idea to rush such things

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I would be really pissed if they just move it to Slovakia... they should just wait and try next year.

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07-05-2010, 12:48 PM
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[QUOTE=zorz;26753921]I would be really pissed if they just move it to Slovakia... they should just wait and try next year.[/QUOTE]


They would be idiots if they just sat and waited. Itīs not like the investors in Lev are Czech or something, they are Scandinavian and why the hell do you think they should sit and wait until CSLH decides that Lev has kissed their ***** enough to let them play when they have a better possibility where they know they will be allowed by the home federation already this season and not a very uncertain maybe sometimes in the future? This move from Lev is understandable. Doubt they will make it anyway.

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07-05-2010, 02:12 PM
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They would be idiots if they just sat and waited. Itīs not like the investors in Lev are Czech or something, they are Scandinavian and why the hell do you think they should sit and wait until CSLH decides that Lev has kissed their ***** enough to let them play when they have a better possibility where they know they will be allowed by the home federation already this season and not a very uncertain maybe sometimes in the future? This move from Lev is understandable. Doubt they will make it anyway.
I'm not saying it's not understandable. I'm just saying I don't like it

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I would be really pissed if they just move it to Slovakia... they should just wait and try next year.[/QUOTE]


They would be idiots if they just sat and waited. Itīs not like the investors in Lev are Czech or something, they are Scandinavian and why the hell do you think they should sit and wait until CSLH decides that Lev has kissed their ***** enough to let them play when they have a better possibility where they know they will be allowed by the home federation already this season and not a very uncertain maybe sometimes in the future? This move from Lev is understandable. Doubt they will make it anyway.
Shalaev sounded like he's had enough with this "Lev" business.

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The issue will be decided on July 13, no definitive calendar of games for 2010–11 until then.

I just had this idea – currently the team left the Czech Ice Hockey Association and is not a member of Slovak Ice Hockey Federation just yet. They plan to take shelter in Poprad for one year, then return to Hradec Kralove once the issues with CIHA are settled.
My question is: Could they possibly move back to Hradec during the season? Not after it? Or maybe even before the start of the new season?

It's just a change of arena you know. Like Minsk did it in the last season when moving to Minsk Arena from the old palace of sports during the season.

I just think that if they get accepted into the league as a club currently stationed in Poprad, being/not being a member of SIHF, they could play their games in the Czech Rep. without being a member of the CIHA.
I even remember them saying that they want to do it this way if the CIHA refuses to give them permission:
Move to Slovakia, register there, be accepted into KHL BUT!!! play in Hradec's arena and have only a few games during the season in Slovakia.

So the main issue is – do they need the permission of CIHA or the Czech government to play games on the territory of the Czech Rep. if they are not a member of CIHA. What would KHL and SIHF think of this?

Edit: NHL teams also play their regular season games on territories of foreign states, even on a different continent! So the main thing is whether it's a big difference from a juridical point of view to play 1 or 2 regular season games in a foreign country or to play most of your regular season games there.


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According to KHL website a KHL commission will be operating in Poprad, Slovakia on July 14, checking the infrastructure of the Lev Poprad club and the results of the commission's visit will be announced on July 16.

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