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03-10-2010, 07:32 AM
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Yeah, the BJ's affliate should be here, maybe then I'd consider being a fan of the so-called 'canada's team'...Considering how big Canada is, I find it extremely disappointing how limited the BJ's try and expose and promote themselves outside the GTA. I was an Expos fan, and now go for the Red Sox (Dad's a long-time fan).

Can anyone remember why the Lynx stopped being the AAA affliate of the spos? I'm guessing the Ottawa owners wanted to attach themselves to a more stable MLB team... I can't recall how much attendance was dipping at that point, but I think if we had the BJ's AAA team, and we didn't play any home games in the first 2-3 weeks, that AAA would succeed.
Honestly, attendance really didn't dip significantly before the Expos left. It went down about 2,000 after the season that the Jays left. Sad really. It really would be interestling to see if we could try to squeeze in 5 or 6,000 a game if the AAA or AA afiliate of the Jays would move on in. One of the reasons I think it's kind of a long shot, is because of the parking.

I tell ya, I will never stay in another ******* Hampton Inn if they extend that hotel anymore

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03-11-2010, 09:42 AM
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It's official:

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TORONTO -- Baseball is officially returning to the nation's capital.

The Intercounty Baseball League announced Wednesday that Ottawa has been awarded an expansion franchise that will play out of the 10,300-seat Ottawa Stadium, former home of the city's defunct triple-A franchise.

The team will be operated by Ottawa Stadium Group.

"Canada's oldest baseball League applauds the efforts and tenacity of the Ottawa Stadium Group in their quest and perseverance in obtaining a stadium lease for one of North America's state-of-the-art facilities," IBL commissioner Joe O'Neill said in a statement.

The franchise will announce its team name and head coach next week.

The Ontario-based IBL, which has been in operation since 1919, will grow to a nine-team league with the inclusion of Ottawa.

Franchises already exist in Barrie, Brantford, Guelph, Hamilton, Kitchener, London, Mississauga and Toronto.
http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=313429

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03-11-2010, 09:48 AM
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Whats the over/under on how long it will be there?

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03-11-2010, 11:00 AM
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To their credit, the season is only 36 games. The other leagues, especially Triple A, had too many games for the number of baseball fans that exist in Ottawa. I don't imagine that attendance has to be very high to break even. It probably comes down to how much the City of Ottawa wants to keep the site a baseball stadium versus how much they could make with other uses.

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03-11-2010, 12:15 PM
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36 games? As a non baseball fan, that interests me FAR more. The biggest reason I dont follow baseball is because its impossible to see all the games, or even hear about them all.

This must just be a hobby for some of the players.

These guys could use the stadium along with another team really...couldnt they? I mean, it must be easy to work around so few games.

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03-11-2010, 12:35 PM
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36 games? As a non baseball fan, that interests me FAR more. The biggest reason I dont follow baseball is because its impossible to see all the games, or even hear about them all.

This must just be a hobby for some of the players.

These guys could use the stadium along with another team really...couldnt they? I mean, it must be easy to work around so few games.
It is a hobby for pretty much every player in the IBL they all have full-time jobs ontop of playing these league games.. which is probably why its only a 36 game season.. compared to MLB which is what? like over 100

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03-11-2010, 01:31 PM
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back at you for beleiving that CFL football will survive here in Ottawa...
Not that I want to turn this into a CFL debate. The renegades/rough riders drew close to 13,000-15,000 fans every game even though the team was abysmal and the ownership/management was horrid. That 13,000-15,000 fans that showed up no matter what. When (not if) a CFL franchise returns to Ottawa and it has ownership that cares and management that know what they're doing people come back and support the team and will easily average 20,000 fans a game. I there is nothing better than watching football on a warm summer evening at Frank Clair. If you've never had the pleasure you don't know what you're missing.

As for baseball another kettle of fish. This whole country seems to have lost it's taste for baseball. There used to be quite a few AAA teams in Canada they are all gone now, the Lynx were the last to leave. I hope this franchise suceeds, but don't hold out much hope.

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I had been to 1 RR game when I was a kid and won tickets to 1 Renegades game. We left after the first half. Man was it boring.

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Yeah, it only survived for about a 100 years. What am I thinking?
Yeah, but how many of those die-hard Riders fans are still alive/still care? Face it, in teh last 15 years, kids in Ottawa haven't grown up with football. And those kids and adults who still care about football, I'm willing to bet that 95% of them are fans of the NFL and couldn't care less about the CFL.

I think the new team will draw decent crowds...for a year or two. Then it'll be the same old crap after that.

(Haven't read teh whole thread yet, so my apologies if this has been discussed already)

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Whats the over/under on how long it will be there?
Thats the thing attendannce wise the rapids did not do that bad.When you get to indy ball you can't just look at the stadium and if its not sold out don't assume thats means the team is not supported.With the ibl teams avg between 300-600 a game.The ottawa team very well could do good in the ibl set up better then some are expecting.

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Not that I want to turn this into a CFL debate. The renegades/rough riders drew close to 13,000-15,000 fans every game even though the team was abysmal and the ownership/management was horrid. That 13,000-15,000 fans that showed up no matter what. When (not if) a CFL franchise returns to Ottawa and it has ownership that cares and management that know what they're doing people come back and support the team and will easily average 20,000 fans a game.
Is averaging 20,000 actually enough for the team to survive? I would have guessed the average would need to be between 25k and 30k. What do the Ticats and Argos average.

For me though, I always question the number of die-hard CFL fans people claim are in this city. I gauge it by two things:
- how often do I hear somebody call / e-mail in to the TEAM1200 wanting to discuss the CFL
- how often does someone I work with want to chat about the CFL around the water cooler

The answer to both questions is "virtually never".

The standard reply to this is "well, why would people be interested when we don't have a team?"

To which I point out that we don't have an NFL team, but there are tons of people in my office who like to talk about that league. We don't have a soccer team of any kind, but there are quite a few people I know who follow and discuss the various European soccer leagues. And we don't have an F1 racing team, but after hockey that is probably the most discussed sport in our office.

So, I guess I just don't buy that there is really that much interest.

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I there is nothing better than watching football on a warm summer evening at Frank Clair. If you've never had the pleasure you don't know what you're missing.
I went to only a couple Renegades games, but I thought they were great. Lots of action, and the atmosphere is so much more party like than the way things have become for the Sens games at SBP.

And yeah, drinking a few beers on a warm summer evening watching 24 guys chase a leather ball is definitely a fun thing.

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As for baseball another kettle of fish. This whole country seems to have lost it's taste for baseball. There used to be quite a few AAA teams in Canada they are all gone now, the Lynx were the last to leave. I hope this franchise suceeds, but don't hold out much hope.
Baseball was killed in this city by what happened in 1994. This was Expos country, and I was as big a baseball fan as anyone. After the Expos had their best season truncated, I've never attended another professional baseball game at any level.

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03-12-2010, 10:33 AM
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As for 20,000 yes a team can do fine with that look at montreal as an exzample.As for the argos there are many rumors they want to move out of the rogers centre to the much smaller bmo field.As for the ticats i may be wrong but i beleave there new stadium will seat around 24,000.Don't just take not many calling into the the team means there is not much interest.

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There probably isn't a huge pent up demand for CFL in Ottawa, but you could have probably said the same thing about Montreal in the years when the Als were absent and look what they've been able to do. I don't think Ottawa is so special that it is any different than any other large city in this country (except perhaps for Toronto, but they have a lot of other pro sports teams that we don't have) in the potential ability to support CFL. Good ownership and an exciting product, and people who were not interested will get interested. TSN gets great ratings and the interest in the league country-wide is high.

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There probably isn't a huge pent up demand for CFL in Ottawa, but you could have probably said the same thing about Montreal in the years when the Als were absent and look what they've been able to do. I don't think Ottawa is so special that it is any different than any other large city in this country (except perhaps for Toronto, but they have a lot of other pro sports teams that we don't have) in the potential ability to support CFL. Good ownership and an exciting product, and people who were not interested will get interested. TSN gets great ratings and the interest in the league country-wide is high.
Toronto is a bit unique yes they have alot of teams yet only a few get what you could call great support.

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Ugh, so the new team is called....

The Ottawa Fat Cats.


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Really, though, it's funny.

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whats up with the camel toe logo?

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http://www.ottawacitizen.com/sports/...420/story.html

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The Ottawa Fat Cats, the latest baseball venture for the city that will begin play next month in the Intercounty Baseball League, was introduced during a noon-hour press conference Wednesday at city hall.


City counselor Bob Monette, IBL commissioner Joe O'Neill and Bill MacKenzie, the team's first manager, were all on hand for the unveiling of the team name as well as the primary and secondary logos.


Also there was Duncan MacDonald of the Ottawa Stadium Group, who made the team a reality. MacDonald said that the 18-game home schedule the team will play at former Lynx Stadium is more about family and fun than it is about baseball.


"We believe that we'll be able to entertain and bring people in," MacDonald said. "We just want people to come out, have some fun and chuckle a little bit, and that's why we have the name."


The team begins play May 8 on the road and will open May 15 at home against Mississauga.


By the way, their mascot's name is Grape
Personally, I don't really care what the name is... as long as we have baseball here, I'm happy.

GO CATS GO

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Oh boy...



Is that a...uh....

What a blatant rip off of the Sens O logo though. I do liek that they used Ottawa colours at least. And the name makes me infinitely more likely to give a **** about this team. Hilarious.

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Oh boy...



Is that a...uh....

What a blatant rip off of the Sens O logo though. I do liek that they used Ottawa colours at least. And the name makes me infinitely more likely to give a **** about this team. Hilarious.

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Oh boy...



Is that a...uh....

What a blatant rip off of the Sens O logo though. I do liek that they used Ottawa colours at least. And the name makes me infinitely more likely to give a **** about this team. Hilarious.
Yes.

It is a cat's eye.

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Ticket prices and schedule info is out.

Tickets are $12 for adults, $8 for seniors and students, $6 for 6-12. Under 6, veterans, military get in for free.

There are only 11 home dates spread over three months. Seven of these are double headers.

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I just see this as a way to get drunk outdoors watching sports with a couple of buddies.
Good stuff. I can't wait.

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Am I reading that correctly?

On May 24, they play the Toronto Maple Leafs?

Say what?

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Aslo there will be 3 can-am games here in late july between quebec and pittsfield.

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