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03-11-2010, 04:55 PM
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TSN's article trying to reward the intangibles

http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/scott_cullen/?id=313485

Solid read. Callahan leads all skaters listed according to Cullen's methods.

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Those stats clearly are useless and false. If they had a grain of truth to them Chris Drury would have a higher score than everyone else combined. Have you seen what his intangibles are like?

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Interesting read, and undoubtedly Callahan should be on top of a list of players with intangibles, but it's hard to measure "intangibles" using stats alone.

For example, Higgins is highest-rated player with "intangibles" on the Flames, while Iginla is nowhere to be found. I always consider leadership to be an intangible quality in a hockey player, and that isn't present in this list.

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can we exchange some intangibles for some wins please.

or perhaps all of our intangibles for the right to ship redden and rozy to another planet.

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can we exchange some intangibles for some wins please.
Agreed. This is like the all-important "leadership" issue. For quite a period of time the Rangers had the greatest leader in hockey, some said the greatest in all of sport. So did the Canucks.

Funny how having the greatest leader in all of sport couldn't translate into a playoff appearance in a league where more than 50% of the teams make it.

Rather like having the guy with the greatest intangibles in hockey and being a playoff also-ran ... assuming you can make the playoffs.

I'll take a goal scorer, thanks, over "leaders" and "guys with great intangibles."

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Those stats clearly are useless and false. If they had a grain of truth to them Chris Drury would have a higher score than everyone else combined. Have you seen what his intangibles are like?


It never fails.

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Those stats clearly are useless and false. If they had a grain of truth to them Chris Drury would have a higher score than everyone else combined. Have you seen what his intangibles are like?
Haha first thing I thought of when I saw this thread.

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Good, maybe another GM will take his awful contract.

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Look at Dennis S... yikes, would be nice to get our hands on him!

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I'll take a lazy line of goal scorers over a hard working line of scrubs that lose games anyday.

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I'll take a lazy line of goal scorers over a hard working line of scrubs that lose games anyday.
I agree with you, although there are many fans of this team who would rather have a team full of players like Ortmeyer, Mara, and Betts than a team consisting of players like Zherdev, Jagr, and Kovalev.

Talent cannot be taught, and at the end of the day, you need to have a certain amount of skill to win games. Hard work and effort are admirable, but a team of grinders and minimal talent can only get you so far.

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I agree with you, although there are many fans of this team who would rather have a team full of players like Ortmeyer, Mara, and Betts than a team consisting of players like Zherdev, Jagr, and Kovalev.

Talent cannot be taught, and at the end of the day, you need to have a certain amount of skill to win games. Hard work and effort are admirable, but a team of grinders and minimal talent can only get you so far.
Definitely. Grinders, scrappers, hard workers... whatever you want to call them, they have their role and are an intricate part of any winner. You put them up against the opponents scoring line to shunt momentum and get your team back in the game, not as intended goal scorers. We have 2 of the best in the league in Callahan and Avery. But it seems like every one of our lines has at least one player of that role in it. We've lacked a pure scoring line with 3 legitimate first line scorers since Jagr was here.

How is it that Christensen of all players demonstrated the most stick/skating skills in his goal the other night than anyone on this team in a long time.

Zherdev was worth the 3 million, You don't win if you don't score.

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