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04-30-2004, 07:28 PM
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Expansion to 32 teams - which cities?

The NHL probably won't contract. If anything it'll expand again several years into a healthy new CBA. When the NHL expands to 32 teams, which cities do you think should get teams? How would you realign the new divisions? Would you factor in relocation?

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No More Expansion ..they shoudl try this:

Move Pittsburgh to Quebec
Move Buffalo to Winnipeg

Lemieux will get the crowd going crazy in Quebec and if the salaries are that much of an issue with a healthy CBA then they can be succesful and it adds to the canadian teams.

NorthEast Division:
Montreal
Toronto
Quebec
Ottawa
Boston

NorthWest Division:
Vancouver
Calgary
Edmonton
Winnipeg
Colorado

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Don't move Buffalo. They're getting nothing but better and have a pretty healthy organization, especially with Golisano as their owner.

If we're going to expand, Winnipeg and Portland (or Hartford) should get teams.

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no expansion. no.

But to answer the question, Quebec and Winnipeg.

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There will be no more expansion... They are talking about contraction instead...

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There will be no more expansion... They are talking about contraction instead...
The league won't contract. A few teams might relocate, but there'll be no contraction. The owners and players' union would never let that happen. It's probably the only thing they agree upon. No pro-sports league in North America will contract. The NHL is going through tough financial times now, but they'll get that all straightened out eventually. The NHL will continue to grow. It's evolution, baby!

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I wonder how many Canadian fans will respond without answering Quebec and Winnipeg.

I hope the NHL doesn't expand. The league is fine with 30 teams. But if I had to choose two cities who could realistically support an NHL team, I would say Portland, Ore. and Houston, Tex.

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Even if you don't contract, PLEASE NO MORE EXPANSION. The talent is spread over too many teams as it is already. More teams means that more players who really shouldn't be second/first liners become second/first liners.

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No expansion.
No contraction.
No moving.

The league is fine!

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No More Expansion ..they shoudl try this:

Move Pittsburgh to Quebec
Move Buffalo to Winnipeg

Lemieux will get the crowd going crazy in Quebec and if the salaries are that much of an issue with a healthy CBA then they can be succesful and it adds to the canadian teams.

NorthEast Division:
Montreal
Toronto
Quebec
Ottawa
Boston

NorthWest Division:
Vancouver
Calgary
Edmonton
Winnipeg
Colorado
I like that better than expansion, although Buffalo and Pittsburgh wouldn't be my first choices for relocation. (That would be Anaheim and Florida)

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I like that better than expansion, although Buffalo and Pittsburgh wouldn't be my first choices for relocation. (That would be Anaheim and Florida)
I agree with you on the two teams you'd relocate, because I think that would be my choices too. And I like the idea of going back to Winnepeg and Quebec.

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Quebec and Winnipeg should have a NHL Team... This is ridiculous...

And, I would also suggest to move a team in Halifax. Great city of hockey...

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They don't need to expand, it's fine the way it is. Afterall, if they expand, they would likely lose money so leave it the way it is.

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Originally Posted by Komisarek8
No More Expansion ..they shoudl try this:

Move Pittsburgh to Quebec
Move Buffalo to Winnipeg

My idea is this....


Move Toronto to Hartford
Move Vancouver to Portland
Move Montreal to Kansas City
Move Calgary to Oklahoma
Move Ottawa to New Mexico
Move Edmonton to Alaska



There won't be any relocation,and if there was it definitely wouldn't be for a Canadian team....No team will have better success then any American team...these relocation threads are just wet dreams for Canadians who want more teams in Canada.

(Also notice how with these relocation posts,they would never suggest moving their own team..)

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Exactly. If you're bold enough to suggest moving someone else's team, just put yourself in their shoes. How would you like it if someone wanted to move yours? But seriously, the NHL has enough weak markets as is, and adding in two more new ones makes no sense at all. The hockey is watered down enough right now, and if you give 50 more guys NHL jobs that couldn't get them before, it gets worse.

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Sometimes it feels we are awarding franchises as we would give out the right to hold the Olympics. If a businessman can present a plan to the league saying he thinks he can make a go of a team in a certain market, and is willing to put up the non-refundable franchise fee, surely the NHL would accept if they thought he had a chance. They might choose their preferred footprint market, if two competing bids are presented, but if no one makes a good bid from Quebec and Winnipeg, and further promises not to whine that they cant compete in the big leagues after they are in, I think they shouldnt get one.

So before I answer, show me the business plans. I think 32 teams is a great number for a league. But the new NHL might be thinking international. That is where the next wave of great expansion money is sure to be sitting. Imagine the franchise fees from a new 32 team European league with an International Stanley Cup. There's gold in them thar hills

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No International.....NHL owners aren't making money,so of course paying planes and hotel rooms in other countries will save them money

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The NHL needs to get rid of some teams, not add some. Get rid of a few teams, say 4-6, and I guarantee that the on ice product will improve. Less teams=greater talent distribution. I mean, if a team is only bringing in 8,000-10,000 fans per game, do they really deserve an NHL franchise?

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The NHL needs to get rid of some teams, not add some. Get rid of a few teams, say 4-6, and I guarantee that the on ice product will improve. Less teams=greater talent distribution. I mean, if a team is only bringing in 8,000-10,000 fans per game, do they really deserve an NHL franchise?

I somewhat agree....there should be less teams but it's too late now..the NHL would never contract and it would cost too much.

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But the new NHL might be thinking international. That is where the next wave of great expansion money is sure to be sitting. Imagine the franchise fees from a new 32 team European league with an International Stanley Cup. There's gold in them thar hills
Now you're talking... Think wild. Think BIG. Evolution, baby...

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It's likely that very few non-canadian players would want to play in Quebec or Winnipeg. Winnipeg is a small town and probably one of the coldest places on earth during the winter. Quebec is a beutifull city, but probably isn't the too great if you don't speak french. No more expansion, but if they move a team Portland or Seattle would be great. Great climate, beutifull nature and couple of Microsoft billionares to serve as owners.

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Tell that to the Stastny Brothers who loved Quebec City so much they learned the language and loved the culture. It's also the oldest and most beautiful city in North America.

Besides cities that don't snow or have 'great climates' are not exactly hockey hotbeds, eh? - I can't imagine why players would want to flock to those places.

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Tell that to the Stastny Brothers who loved Quebec City so much they learned the language and loved the culture. It's also the oldest and most beautiful city in North America.

Besides cities that don't snow or have 'great climates' are not exactly hockey hotbeds, eh? - I can't imagine why players would want to flock to those places.

Actually Quebec City isn't the oldest city in North America.

http://geography.about.com/library/f...destcityus.htm

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