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03-17-2010, 10:21 AM
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I don't believe making the playoffs and getting dominated in the first round does anything for this team.
You could not be more wrong.

Just MAKING the playoffs and even going 4 & out would be a huge improvement over the last 9 years.

Playoffs = success during the regular season. Once you're in, anything can happen (just ask SJ). Is this too hard to grasp?

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03-17-2010, 10:52 AM
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You could not be more wrong.

Just MAKING the playoffs and even going 4 & out would be a huge improvement over the last 9 years.

Playoffs = success during the regular season. Once you're in, anything can happen (just ask SJ). Is this too hard to grasp?
Columbus and St. Louis are really showing how much they learned from going 4-and-out last season...

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Columbus and St. Louis are really showing how much they learned from going 4-and-out last season...
therefore... not making the playoffs would be considered a "good thing?"

If they miss the playoffs this year, DL will be 0-for-4 in his tenure here. But it would take a HUGE collapse, starting right now.

Would you extend DL's contract if they miss the playoffs again?

I really don't care what Clb or StL learned or didn't learn, all I care about is the performance of one team. (I also like the fact that Det, Dal and Ana may miss the playoffs this year - that's a small victory imb, but the Kings just MAKING the playoffs would be another)

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Ugh, Phoenix makes me sick. With envy.

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They keep pulling it off, don't they? But they also have a tough road schedule down the stretch and anything can happen. I am looking forward to the April 8th game and I hope that game will clinch 4th place for the Kings over the 'yotes or perhaps give the Kings some momentum on beating the 'yotes in the first round of the playoffs.

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You could not be more wrong.

Just MAKING the playoffs and even going 4 & out would be a huge improvement over the last 9 years.

Playoffs = success during the regular season. Once you're in, anything can happen (just ask SJ). Is this too hard to grasp?
Yeah, because Columbus and St. Louis getting swept last year sure did a lot for those teams this season. Same with Atlanta a few years back. What makes the Kings any different? Get real.

Is everyone going through that bad of a playoff withdrawal that they don't see the reality here? The Kings could get swept first round by a Chicago or Vancouver and then completely blow next year and miss the playoffs. This happens to teams, especially young up and comers, all the time. The parity in the new NHL is astounding. Any team at any point can pass another.

Chicago is still around because they got a favorable draw first round and ended up winning a couple series. The Kings NEED to win one series. This is a must. And the more we fall down the standings due to horrid play and retarded coaching, the less of a reality that becomes.

This team is not a perennial contender by any means. This board needs to wake up. The games we're playing and losing right now are shaping this team's future.

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Yeah, because Columbus and St. Louis getting swept last year sure did a lot for those teams this season. Same with Atlanta a few years back. What makes the Kings any different? Get real.

Is everyone going through that bad of a playoff withdrawal that they don't see the reality here? The Kings could get swept first round by a Chicago or Vancouver and then completely blow next year and miss the playoffs. This happens to teams, especially young up and comers, all the time. The parity in the new NHL is astounding. Any team at any point can pass another.

Chicago is still around because they got a favorable draw first round and ended up winning a couple series. The Kings NEED to win one series. This is a must. And the more we fall down the standings due to horrid play and retarded coaching, the less of a reality that becomes.

This team is not a perennial contender by any means. This board needs to wake up. The games we're playing and losing right now are shaping this team's future.
Hey, that's an interesting topic.

Maybe you should write about it

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03-17-2010, 04:16 PM
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I want to finish first and have home ice advantage but I am not freaking out or regretting playing any team. We can beat any team, any night and win any series if we play well. Our fate is ours and ours alone. What the rest of the league does or fails to do is irrelevant to our path.
This. I'm mostly concerned with the energy the Kings are lacking right now. They need that desperation and hunger even if it means clinging onto a low playoff seeding. I want them entering the playoffs smelling blood and not their own.

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If they can't figure out how to start out a game with the right tempo and intensity it won't matter what place they finish and who they play in the playoffs. They will get their heads handed to them in the 1st round with the slow starts to games that they've had all year.

Whoever is in charge of locker room music should be sent packing, because whatever they are playing is sucking the energy out of the players at the beginning of games.

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..... The parity in the new NHL is astounding. Any team at any point can pass another.

Chicago is still around because they got a favorable draw first round and ended up winning a couple series. The Kings NEED to win one series. This is a must. And the more we fall down the standings due to horrid play and retarded coaching, the less of a reality that becomes.

This team is not a perennial contender by any means. This board needs to wake up. The games we're playing and losing right now are shaping this team's future.
I really don't think we're in disagreement here.

Except that I would say that the Kings need to win FOUR series (IN the same playoff year)



(You don't think that I don't know this team isn't a perennuial contender? Let's start with being a 1x contender and build from there - )

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Yeah, because Columbus and St. Louis getting swept last year sure did a lot for those teams this season. Same with Atlanta a few years back. What makes the Kings any different? Get real.

Is everyone going through that bad of a playoff withdrawal that they don't see the reality here? The Kings could get swept first round by a Chicago or Vancouver and then completely blow next year and miss the playoffs. This happens to teams, especially young up and comers, all the time. The parity in the new NHL is astounding. Any team at any point can pass another.

Chicago is still around because they got a favorable draw first round and ended up winning a couple series. The Kings NEED to win one series. This is a must. And the more we fall down the standings due to horrid play and retarded coaching, the less of a reality that becomes.

This team is not a perennial contender by any means. This board needs to wake up. The games we're playing and losing right now are shaping this team's future.
Really? Seriously? It's a must for the Kings to win a playoff series this season or the rebuild is doomed?

I guess the games they were winning (much of them on the road) prior to the Olympic break don't mean jack to the shaping of this team's future. Take a step back and look at the big picture. The Kings are not last year's St. Louis Blues. Their best players aren't named Tkachuk and McDonald. Oshie, Perron, and Eric Johnson as a group aren't even in the same universe as Kopitar, Brown, and Doughty.

Sprinkle in Jack Johnson, Simmonds, Richardson, Quick, and Bernier and it is easy to see that the Kings are built for the long haul.

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This thread being more about the Yotes, and their newly winning ways:

Clealry their coach has alot to do with molding their team, and I am just throwing this out there, but has their turnaround occured with less pain than ours?

Certainly the Gretzky years weren't a highlight, but it just seems like they turned it around quicker than we did. Maybe thats just because we've looking at their tail pipe all season, I don't know. Anybody care to share their perceptions in this regard?

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This thread being more about the Yotes, and their newly winning ways:

Clealry their coach has alot to do with molding their team, and I am just throwing this out there, but has their turnaround occured with less pain than ours?

Certainly the Gretzky years weren't a highlight, but it just seems like they turned it around quicker than we did. Maybe thats just because we've looking at their tail pipe all season, I don't know. Anybody care to share their perceptions in this regard?
I think our growing pains are a little more evident, because our core is much, much younger. Overall a few years down the road I like our team a lot more. I have to admit though that I don't have much idea as to what Phoenix has in the pipeline in terms of goaltending and defense.

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I think our growing pains are a little more evident, because our core is much, much younger. Overall a few years down the road I like our team a lot more. I have to admit though that I don't have much idea as to what Phoenix has in the pipeline in terms of goaltending and defense.
They have Scott Darling as a goaltender, who just got kicked off the UMaine DI team for showing up to a game drunk.

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Incredible. Phoenix came back from down 3-0 in Florida to win in a shootout. Vokoun was ridiculous but the Yotes were absolutely pelting away at him, pretty much at will, in the second half of the game. They are on a serious roll...

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Beginning to really hate them.

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Incredible. Phoenix came back from down 3-0 in Florida to win in a shootout. Vokoun was ridiculous but the Yotes were absolutely pelting away at him, pretty much at will, in the second half of the game. They are on a serious roll...
They're peaking too soon and will be on the downswing once the playoff starts. That's what I tell myself when I try to sleep.

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Beginning to really hate them.
?? Would you rather see SJ keep winning the Pacific or some new blood?

I hope PHX passes SJ - that would be great! There could be a whole new Blake-sucks thread.

And obviously any team other than the Ducks is a huge improvement.

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?? Would you rather see SJ keep winning the Pacific or some new blood?

I hope PHX passes SJ - that would be great! There could be a whole new Blake-sucks thread.

And obviously any team other than the Ducks is a huge improvement.
Yeah, because it adds to the humiliation when San Jose gets ejected in the first round. I don't mind stacked teams leading away with no hope of winning. I shudder at the thought of a team leading the way who actually does have a hope of winning. I have a feeling the Yotes will do really well this post-season if they continue to move up the board. If Phoenix wins, then we are competing with San Jose on who is going to be the last team in the Pacific division to win the Stanley Cup, and I kinda don't want there to be a chance that the oldest team in the Pacific division are the last to win it -_-

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