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03-18-2010, 09:05 PM
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Clear and cut. This is proof of how spoiled we are with Henrik as our goalie. We're spoiled that he can make those saves, but when he doesn't make them we fault him for it.

This game is by far and away not Henrik's fault.
this isnt about being spoiled with Henrik in net, this is about the Rangers being in a damn near do or die game and Henrik crapped the bed. Can you honestly tell yourself he had a good game?

Why is it ok to extol (sp?) his virtues (as I have done numerous times) but not to call him out when he has a crap game. he was terrible tonight, he fought the puck all game long. it happens, whatever.

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03-18-2010, 09:07 PM
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you hope they keep losing but youre not calling for a tank?

at this point im hoping for an absolute tank of epic proportions.
thank god i sold my tickets for the piles game they are gonna throttle this collection of zilches something fierce.

cmon cry hank cryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy......
Is it realistic that they lose every single game in regulation the rest of the way?

We can definitely get Seguin if that happened. But I'm kind over him cause he will be off the board anyway. I'm set for Kabanov.

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03-18-2010, 09:07 PM
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What's done is done. Redden is already SIGNED. Roszival is already SIGNED. So is Drury. Even if Sather was fired, or he stopped signing anyone, those players are STILL HERE.

The younger players played better under Renney than they do under Torts.

If you honestly believe a new GM with the same owner and the same coach are going to change anything, you are naive.

Sather gotta go

10 years

10 YEARS!

say it like Jeremy Piven in Gross Pointe Blank:

10 YEARS!!!

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03-18-2010, 09:08 PM
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you hope they keep losing but youre not calling for a tank?

at this point im hoping for an absolute tank of epic proportions.
thank god i sold my tickets for the piles game they are gonna throttle this collection of zilches something fierce.

cmon cry hank cryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy......
I don't believe in tanking (aka INTENTIONALLY bombing games for draft picks) -- that's ******** Pittsburgh tactics and I refuse to accept the NYR from resorting to such petty things. But I do hope they continue to lose (regardless of how they play) because I want a good 1st round pick.

The difference is I'm not calling for them to intentionally lose

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this isnt about being spoiled with Henrik in net, this is about the Rangers being in a damn near do or die game and Henrik crapped the bed. Can you honestly tell yourself he had a good game?

Why is it ok to extol (sp?) his virtues (as I have done numerous times) but not to call him out when he has a crap game. he was terrible tonight, he fought the puck all game long. it happens, whatever.

I'll back you up Inferno, Hank had a terrible game. Fourth goal was hardly his fault, but the other three were just plain bad goals, especially the second and third ones.

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03-18-2010, 09:08 PM
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this isnt about being spoiled with Henrik in net, this is about the Rangers being in a damn near do or die game and Henrik crapped the bed. Can you honestly tell yourself he had a good game?

Why is it ok to extol (sp?) his virtues (as I have done numerous times) but not to call him out when he has a crap game. he was terrible tonight, he fought the puck all game long. it happens, whatever.
Never said he didin't have a bad game, because he did in terms of Henrik Lundqvist, but it's tough to fault the guy. He's needed the team to pick him up 5 times tops this season, and THEY crapped the bed.

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03-18-2010, 09:11 PM
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you can hear it in their voices that they're actually afraid to ask questions lol

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What's done is done. Redden is already SIGNED. Roszival is already SIGNED. So is Drury. Even if Sather was fired, or he stopped signing anyone, those players are STILL HERE.

The younger players played better under Renney than they do under Torts.

If you honestly believe a new GM with the same owner and the same coach are going to change anything, you are naive.
So let's have Sather stick around to make more mistakes then. Redden, Drury, and Rozy are already signed, so what's some more bad signings?

Dubinsky and Cally are doing just fine under Torts. Staal has a career high in points.

I never said anything about having Torts remain the coach under a new GM. I'd advocate both Torts and Sather going. But Sather does not deserve the opportunity to choose another coach for this team. His time is up and he should have been fired long ago. While Torts is one of the problems on this team, Sather is the ultimate problem in the organization. He's ****ed up this team far worse than Torts has.

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Sather gotta go

10 years

10 YEARS!

say it like Jeremy Piven in Gross Pointe Blank:

10 YEARS!!!

I DON'T disagree, but to lay all of this at Sather's feet is naive.

It's a three headed monster, and cutting off one head (Sather) doesn't do anything if the other two aren't removed, especially when one is more dangerous than the other (you can take your pick on whether Tortorella is more dangerous than Dolan or vice versa).

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Never said he didin't have a bad game, because he did in terms of Henrik Lundqvist, but it's tough to fault the guy. He's needed the team to pick him up 5 times tops this season, and THEY crapped the bed.
he did in terms of any goalie in the league bro. 4 goals, and 2 goal posts on something like 15 shots is absolutely PUTRID. That's numbers I expect to see from a bottom of the row backup goalie, not an elite goalie. Yes, hes been damn near unstoppable for about 85% of this season, but today eh wasnt, and its ok to call him out on it.

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03-18-2010, 09:12 PM
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Oh yeah, Torts playin the classics. "Not gonna discuss it" is his "Stairway to Heaven"

And I'm nooot gon-na dis-cuss-it... with you-u guysss

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Torts knows it's over. You can hear it in his voice.

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I DON'T disagree, but to lay all of this at Sather's feet is naive.

It's a three headed monster, and cutting off one head (Sather) doesn't do anything if the other two aren't removed, especially when one is more dangerous than the other (you can take your pick on whether Tortorella is more dangerous than Dolan or vice versa).
10 years!!!

Enough already! Get him out of here! His tenure has been a disgrace. Don't go away mad now, just go away.

It's over. Move on.

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03-18-2010, 09:15 PM
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Seems like the beat writers didn't even want to risk a tough question tonight.

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03-18-2010, 09:17 PM
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I DON'T disagree, but to lay all of this at Sather's feet is naive.

It's a three headed monster, and cutting off one head (Sather) doesn't do anything if the other two aren't removed, especially when one is more dangerous than the other (you can take your pick on whether Tortorella is more dangerous than Dolan or vice versa).
If Sather is fired, odds are the new GM will bring in a new coach. Nothing we can do about Dolan, unfortunately.

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So let's have Sather stick around to make more mistakes then. Redden, Drury, and Rozy are already signed, so what's some more bad signings?

Dubinsky and Cally are doing just fine under Torts. Staal has a career high in points.

I never said anything about having Torts remain the coach under a new GM. I'd advocate both Torts and Sather going. But Sather does not deserve the opportunity to choose another coach for this team. His time is up and he should have been fired long ago. While Torts is one of the problems on this team, Sather is the ultimate problem in the organization. He's ****ed up this team far worse than Torts has.
If it was up to ME, I'd can Torts tonight, and then can Sather after the draft, only because I have to imagine they're working on that now, and I'd hate to kill any work that may have been done.

The fact is Torts forced Sather to let Orr go, and bring in the waste of human flesh in Brashear (that's ON Tortorella).

Renney had these guys playing as a team, and playing for each other, in a system. Tortorella had these guys running around like monkeys trying to **** a football.

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If Sather is fired, odds are the new GM will bring in a new coach. Nothing we can do about Dolan, unfortunately.
if sather is fired, youre almost guaranteed to have Messier here. which will probably be more of the same.

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if sather is fired, youre almost guaranteed to have Messier here. which will probably be more of the same.
It truly is amazing how ****ed up this organization is.

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If it was up to ME, I'd can Torts tonight, and then can Sather after the draft, only because I have to imagine they're working on that now, and I'd hate to kill any work that may have been done.

The fact is Torts forced Sather to let Orr go, and bring in the waste of human flesh in Brashear (that's ON Tortorella).

Renney had these guys playing as a team, and playing for each other, in a system. Tortorella had these guys running around like monkeys trying to **** a football.
ill ask the same question though man....you fire Torts. Fine. You fire Sather. Fine. Who replaces them?

More than likely its Messier replacing Sather in which case youre basically getting Sather 2.0 except he'll even be further entrenched in his job and completely un-fireable. Personally Id rather have Steve Yzerman as our GM...he's learned in an atmosphere that always wins and has put in the requisite time. As far as coach goes...I dont have the slightest clue who you would hire. There is literally not 1 coach I can think of who is more qualified than the one we have now.

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if sather is fired, youre almost guaranteed to have Messier here. which will probably be more of the same.
I don't think so. I may be wrong, but I don't think anyone in this organization believes that Messier is ready to be a GM. I have no doubt they are grooming him for that, but he's not ready.

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if sather is fired, youre almost guaranteed to have Messier here. which will probably be more of the same.
Which is exactly the reason why firing Sather without removing the other monsters is naive.

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It truly is amazing how ****ed up this organization is.
That's another thing that boggles my mind... that Sather will be able to handpick his successor, like he's done such a good job as to where he should be given that privilege.

It's insane. There's a good chance that the Knicks or Rangers will never win a championship as long as Dolan is the owner of these teams.

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Which is exactly the reason why firing Sather without removing the other monsters is naive.
I am not going to put up with another year of Sather.

How is it that we know, without a doubt, that Mssier will be the same as Sather?

I love Stevie Y too, but is that feasible?

Sather has got to go.

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ill ask the same question though man....you fire Torts. Fine. You fire Sather. Fine. Who replaces them?

More than likely its Messier replacing Sather in which case youre basically getting Sather 2.0 except he'll even be further entrenched in his job and completely un-fireable. Personally Id rather have Steve Yzerman as our GM...he's learned in an atmosphere that always wins and has put in the requisite time. As far as coach goes...I dont have the slightest clue who you would hire. There is literally not 1 coach I can think of who is more qualified than the one we have now.
Yzerman is a GREAT choice for GM, and he would be my first choice as well.

Coach? In all honesty, I'd bring Renney back. If we're going to go through a rebuild process with young players, I'd want a guy that works well with them, not some hot head. There probably are some decent choices at the Canadian junior level as well, one being Dale Hunter, as sickening as that may be.

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This team sucks. They don't deserve to get to the playoffs. Lay down the rest of the year and get a great player in the draft ready to make an impact right now. Kabanov, I'm looking at you. Paging Gordie Clark...
how do you know this skinny 18 year russian can make an immediate impact next year? I can remember last summer or even last spring Grachev very well could make an impact from some fans.

It's a long shot IMO for Kabanov to be an impact player next year. poo kid will have Manhattan's weight on his shoulders where guys like the King, Cally, Duby, Gabby, Del Zotts and co should be bringing home the bacon. Not some 19 year old Kid that is not even dominating the OHL at this present time

would be awesome for the rangers if they hit pay dirt but man the deck is stacked against it

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