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03-18-2010, 02:26 PM
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Krajicek

Krajicek is going to be a UFA.

Should he stay or should he go ?


Lukas Krajicek
Age: 27, born March 11, 1983
Nationality: Prostějov, Czechoslovakia
Height: 6 ft 2 in
Weight: 185 lb
Shoots: Left

Former NHL Teams:
Florida (2001-2005)
Vancouver (2006-2008)
Tampa Bay (2008-2009)

NHL Salaries (nhlnumbers.com):
09/10: 700k — Flyers
09/10: 1.475 mill — Tampa Bay
07/08, 08/09: 1.1 mill — Tampa Bay
07/08: 1.1 mill — Vancouver

Transactions:
June 23, 2001 — Drafted by the Florida Panthers in the 1st round, 24th overall.
June 23, 2006 — Traded to the Vancouver Canucks with Roberto Luongo and a 6th round pick in 2006 for Todd Bertuzzi, Bryan Allen and Alex Auld.
September 8, 2006 — Signed a one-year deal with the Vancouver Canucks.
July 2, 2007 — Signed a two-year deal with the Vancouver Canucks as a restricted free agent.
October 6, 2008 — Traded to the Tampa Bay Lightning along with Juraj Šimek in exchange for Michel Ouellet and Shane O'Brien.
January 30, 2010 — Signed to a unrestricted free agent contract by the Philadelphia Flyers.

As a Flyer:
Lukas Krajicek averages 17 mins per game over the last 16 games and usually gets a shift or two on the PP.

NHL Draft: 24th overall, 2001 by Florida Panthers

Other noteworthy 2001 draft picks:
12. Dan Hamhuis
16. R. J. Umberger
27. Jeff Woywitka
95. Patrick Sharp
99. Ray Emery
172. Dennis Seidenberg
179. Andrew Alberts

Upcoming FreeAgents we WILL prob re-sign:
Leighton
Carcillo
Powe
Asham
Parent
Coburn

Upcoming FreeAgents we will prob NOT re-sign:
Ray Emery G
Johan Backlund G
Jeremy Duchesne G
Jared Ross F
Mika Pyorala F
Jon Matsumoto F
David Laliberte F
Danny Syvret D

Recent signings:
Luke Pither F
Shane Harper F
Ben Holmstrom F
Eric Wellwood F
Zac Rinaldo F
Nic Riopel G


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03-18-2010, 02:47 PM
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I'd throw a one or two year deal around league min for him, but i wouldn't break my back trying to get him to re-sign.

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When well-coached and keeping his game simple he is very effective. If he can be had for cheap (and that's not a big assumption) then two years is a pretty good deal for both parties involved. That way he can play well and get a 4 year deal for a good amount of money.

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03-18-2010, 03:25 PM
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2 year deal around 1 million would be good. (he makes 700k this year) Hopefully he re pays us for bringing back from the AHL

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03-18-2010, 03:31 PM
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Give him a cheap contract, under 1 million. He is probably just happy to be on a competitive team.

I wonder what kind of contract Coburn will get offered.

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03-18-2010, 03:33 PM
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He'd be a decent Coburn replacement if we are smart and deal Coburn for picks.

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03-18-2010, 03:33 PM
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Give him a cheap contract, under 1 million. He is probably just happy to be on a competitive team.

I wonder what kind of contract Coburn will get offered.
Coburn hasn't earned a big deal yet. Maybe a 2 year 2 million per deal.

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I'd like to see him back. Haven't really paid too much attention to the Phantoms this year...how are Marshall, Mormina, et al progressing? Anyone getting close?

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I'd throw a one or two year deal around league min for him, but i wouldn't break my back trying to get him to re-sign.
sorry, but thats horrible

the guy is worth more than the league minimum and he knows that

1-2 years $750,000-850,000 per

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03-18-2010, 04:14 PM
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I'd like to see him back. Haven't really paid too much attention to the Phantoms this year...how are Marshall, Mormina, et al progressing? Anyone getting close?
Mornina is not a prospect

Marshall & Bourdon though, have apparently struggled

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Coburn hasn't earned a big deal yet. Maybe a 2 year 2 million per deal.
I recently read some number cruncher ranked him as the third worst player in the NHL this season. Thought that was interesting.

Krajicek, on the other hand, has definitely been a solid pickup. No complaints here if he's back next year.

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03-18-2010, 05:05 PM
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I voted to bring him back, but it will depend.

His contract with Tampa was $1.5M/yr, if I recall correctly. He voided it to play at $700,000 in the NHL again. I would not assume, if he keeps up his play at this level, he would sign for less than $1.75-2 milion per year. If he plays this well, in our top 4, he's worth it to every team in the league. I don't care what happened elsewhere, he's playing great now - he gets it now.

However, with the emergence of Bartulis and his 3 yr deal, and the strong play of Coburn and Parent lately, we don't have room for Oskars and Parent/Krajicek.

This is a good problem to have, as Homer might need to include one of Coburn or Parent in a deal for a goalie.

And there is the gnawing issue of cap relief going forward. Something has to give and Homer's going to have to ask one of our NMC/NTCs to waive.

You have to ask yourself, which one WOULD actually waive?
Briere would be everyone's choice, but he shows no inclination to waive - and there would be almost no demand for his services.

My money is on Timonen. Won't be popular, but he's probably the most likely to want to leave. Never had the impression he's fulfilling his life dream by being a Flyer. We know he hated Stevens, not sure if he really likes Lavy or not...

Before you flame me, think about it. We've got a very good, big, mobile crew on D, and a couple smallish types coming up as our best prospects (Lehtivuori, Bodrov, Bertilsson). Even Marshall is not huge.

By trading Timonen we could get:

- some cap room
- a goalie

and still have a very solid D:

Pronger-Carle
Krajicek-Parent
Coburn-Bartulis

Bodrov-Lehtivuori
Marshall-Bertilsson

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I voted to bring him back, but it will depend.

His contract with Tampa was $1.5M/yr, if I recall correctly. He voided it to play at $700,000 in the NHL again. I would not assume, if he keeps up his play at this level, he would sign for less than $1.75-2 milion per year. If he plays this well, in our top 4, he's worth it to every team in the league. I don't care what happened elsewhere, he's playing great now - he gets it now.

However, with the emergence of Bartulis and his 3 yr deal, and the strong play of Coburn and Parent lately, we don't have room for Oskars and Parent/Krajicek.

This is a good problem to have, as Homer might need to include one of Coburn or Parent in a deal for a goalie.

And there is the gnawing issue of cap relief going forward. Something has to give and Homer's going to have to ask one of our NMC/NTCs to waive.

You have to ask yourself, which one WOULD actually waive?
Briere would be everyone's choice, but he shows no inclination to waive - and there would be almost no demand for his services.

My money is on Timonen. Won't be popular, but he's probably the most likely to want to leave. Never had the impression he's fulfilling his life dream by being a Flyer. We know he hated Stevens, not sure if he really likes Lavy or not...

Before you flame me, think about it. We've got a very good, big, mobile crew on D, and a couple smallish types coming up as our best prospects (Lehtivuori, Bodrov, Bertilsson). Even Marshall is not huge.

By trading Timonen we could get:

- some cap room
- a goalie

and still have a very solid D:

Pronger-Carle
Krajicek-Parent
Coburn-Bartulis

Bodrov-Lehtivuori
Marshall-Bertilsson
His contract was 1.475 with tampa, but he didn't live up to it, and got waived. I would say that he would sign for less than that right now, especially since without the Flyers he would be in the AHL or europe right now

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I'm pretty sure there's no way Krajicek would be nearly as effective if he wasn't with Timonen. You aren't a turnstile for 3 years and then suddenly turn it around.

So trading Kimmo would kind of defeat the purpose of keeping him.

EDIT: Interesting stat I hadn't realized. In the 16 games they've been together, Kimmo is -5, Krajicek is -6.

Part of these could be because the team hasn't been great at ES recently, but that's interesting.

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I'm pretty sure there's no way Krajicek would be nearly as effective if he wasn't with Timonen. You aren't a turnstile for 3 years and then suddenly turn it around.

So trading Kimmo would kind of defeat the purpose of keeping him.

EDIT: Interesting stat I hadn't realized. In the 16 games they've been together, Kimmo is -5, Krajicek is -6.

Part of these could be because the team hasn't been great at ES recently, but that's interesting.
Yeah well with his weird positioning, he needs a solid defensive partner. His skill, speed are there though, you can see why he was a first round pick.

Hopefully he can round out his defensive game.

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resign him, especially if they're looking to deal coburn or carle at the draft for picks

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If he comes for less than $800K, bring him back...otherwise, adios.

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Why do people think Krajicek is good at all? He brings essentially nothing to the team, and was waived by one of the league's worst defensive teams for a reason.

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Why do people think Krajicek is good at all? He brings essentially nothing to the team, and was waived by one of the league's worst defensive teams for a reason.
Watch him play? Theres a reason he's playing with Kimo while Coburn isnt.

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Why do people think Krajicek is good at all? He brings essentially nothing to the team, and was waived by one of the league's worst defensive teams for a reason.
He is a great fit for laviolette's active D system. He has great speed, hard shot, and good offensive instincts.

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Watch him play? Theres a reason he's playing with Kimo while Coburn isnt.
I do, and he makes stupid decisions and gets beat constantly. The reason he plays on the second pairing even strength is because Coburn is more effective on that third pairing. He's been pretty good after splitting up with Timonen.
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He is a great fit for laviolette's active D system. He has great speed, hard shot, and good offensive instincts.
Yeah, he's really tearing it up with that 1 assist. Just a real pleasure to watch him in the offensive zone.

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I do, and he makes stupid decisions and gets beat constantly. The reason he plays on the second pairing even strength is because Coburn is more effective on that third pairing. He's been pretty good after splitting up with Timonen.

Yeah, he's really tearing it up with that 1 assist. Just a real pleasure to watch him in the offensive zone.
You seem to hate him? Why is that? (everyone dislikes a player, just wondering your reason).

Only problem with him is his positioning. He's not slow, and he plays solid defense (watch tonight's game and count the times he blocks a shot or bodies up on the guy)

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You seem to hate him? Why is that? (everyone dislikes a player, just wondering your reason).
I hate him because he is bad.
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Only problem with him is his positioning. He's not slow, and he plays solid defense (watch tonight's game and count the times he blocks a shot or bodies up on the guy)
Yeah... defense isn't about positioning at all. We just need to body up on more guys

In addition to getting beat for being out of position, he also makes a lot of bad decisions with the puck. He gets exposed every time Timonen isn't there to cover his ***.

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For a good contract I'd keep him, but his history of streakiness make me not willing to much more than the $700,000 he is getting this year.

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I'm not sure. I feel he does deserve to be signed to a new contract and he probably wouldn't be too expensive considering that we picked him up after he was demoted to the AHL. On the other hand I would like someone like Syvret or one of our other AHLers to get a shot, but from what I've heard others say Marshall and Bourdon are probably not ready though Lehtivouri might be. I certainly wouldn't mind if he stayed.

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