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03-22-2010, 04:18 PM
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is sean avery moveable?

now let's not let this turn into a why or why not you like him thread or a why or why not you think he has a place on this team thread.

do you think any team in this league would deal for sean avery with 2 more years left on his deal at 1.9 per?

if so, what would you think the return would be?

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03-22-2010, 04:20 PM
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Yes. Of course. He has shown how effective he can be. Any GM would be crazy to pass him up.

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No one else in this league would touch him.

I dont think he has done anything over the past season and a half to change that

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Yes. Of course. He has shown how effective he can be. Any GM would be crazy to pass him up.
Hes had a nice 6 or 7 game stretch here, but Id argue that hes shown what a detriment he can be to an organization much more than what an effective player he can be over the last few years.

Id also guess that more GMs would give a "no thanks" than show genuine interest in acquiring him.

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No.

If traded, the team has to take on the full 3.8 (Dallas gets relieved of their half), so no chance.

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Yes. Of course. He has shown how effective he can be. Any GM would be crazy to pass him up.
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No one else in this league would touch him.
I dont think he has done anything over the past season and a half to change that
This outlines the 2 extreme views that most GM's and fans would have.

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03-22-2010, 04:26 PM
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He has shown how effective he can be.

Yeah and he's also shown how often he can be effective, which is about twice a month.

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03-22-2010, 04:28 PM
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yes, but wouldn't think of doing so until someone like kreider is ready.

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03-22-2010, 04:32 PM
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yes, but wouldn't think of doing so until someone like kreider is ready.
What does Kreider have to do with it? Hes a player with offensive upside that, if things come together, would leave Avery in the dust.

Its much easier to acquire a replacement for Avery...in fact, we may already have one in Prust.

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No, because he still has (and probably always will have) the reputation that if he's not playing in NY, he's a problem.

Plus receiving his full contract also makes him undesirable.

If Tortorella would stop grasping him by the balls, maybe he'd be a good hockey player again. Remember when Avery would agitate AND score goals? Now it's rare to see him do either.

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I think based on his reputation when he was a Wing, King, and a Star, most teams would pass on him. NY seems to be the only place he really fits in and he'd be stupid to leave (after seeing what happened last time he left) again, once his contract is up.

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More valuable to us at half price. There are teams who would take him but they may not be the ones who could afford, or be willing to pay him.

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What does Kreider have to do with it? Hes a player with offensive upside that, if things come together, would leave Avery in the dust.

Its much easier to acquire a replacement for Avery...in fact, we may already have one in Prust.
oh, since i'm a big avery fan, what i meant is that i'd rather have him finish out his contract here and then have a guy like kreider take his spot. you're right that kreider has a much bigger upside though.

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There may be a couple teams but there aren't many. I like him on our team by the way. Then there's the contract issue--paying $3.8 mil per year is a lot for him at this point in time. Any GM trading for him has to have a good idea he's going to fit in with his team and he's going to like his new city. If you're not absolutely sure--it would be best to stay away.

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No.

If traded, the team has to take on the full 3.8 (Dallas gets relieved of their half), so no chance.
I don't think so. As far as I know Dallas is on the hook for 50% of his salary and cap hit until the contract expires, or he is waived and sent to the minors.

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I wouldn't mind if Avery stayed with the Rangers if there was a coaching move. Like some of you have stated, it seems like Tortorella's expectations of Sean Avery has turned him into a lesser player. If he plays for a different coach and at a 1.9 cap hit for the next two years, I wouldn't mind seeing if the Avery magic can return. He turns 30 this year so he should still have the energy to be an effective agitator. That being said, I don't know that you bring him back in 2012-13.

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I would doubt that there are more than one or two teams that would realistically take a chance on Avery.

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I love it. The team goes in the tank and the blaming starts. If being effective only once or twice a month were suddenly the criteria for getting players out of here, the line doesn't start with Sean Avery. Let's not forget, Avery is supposed to be a third line player. We have two lines of "top six" forwards who are suposed to be better than he is, but rarely show up. Outside of Gaborik and Lundqvist, who has really come close to living up to what was expected of them starting the season? A third/fourth line player making 1.9 is the least of our problems right now. So to answer the question: No, I don't think he's moveable because of his history, but I don't think he's the guy we should be moving anyway.

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No.

If traded, the team has to take on the full 3.8 (Dallas gets relieved of their half), so no chance.
^ this.

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No team in the NHL would touch Sean with a 50 foot pole. I bet you his next contract will be close to the league minimum. Its not a question of his talent, his personality is so volatile. He's been a shadow of his former self this year. Such a shame.

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No team in the NHL would touch Sean with a 50 foot pole. I bet you his next contract will be close to the league minimum. Its not a question of his talent, his personality is so volatile. He's been a shadow of his former self this year. Such a shame.
His former self as in, like, him from a year ago? Hm, what changed between then and now...

It's not like he became a worse player in the space of a year. Everything around him changed, and his role and minutes changed.

This is a player who feeds off energy, which has been discussed at length, in the media and by the players themselves. This year, there's been nothing but negative energy.

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No team in the NHL would touch Sean with a 50 foot pole. I bet you his next contract will be close to the league minimum. Its not a question of his talent, his personality is so volatile. He's been a shadow of his former self this year. Such a shame.
you're crazy. he'll get at least 1.75 mill if not more

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I'd trade him in the right deal but there's no point if we don't get equal value, which is highly unlikely given the contract situation and the reputation as other posters have already pointed out.

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you're crazy. he'll get at least 1.75 mill if not more
who else is going to sign him? name me one team.

if you cant, there is no demand. no demand = lower cost. If Sather has any brains whatsoever he would back Sean into a corner and get him to sign a 1 year deal at 1 mil.

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No.

If traded, the team has to take on the full 3.8 (Dallas gets relieved of their half), so no chance.
didn't realize this. they say that there is no such thing as a dumb question, but this information renders my question dumb....very dumb.

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