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New transfer agreement signed between the NHL and Sweden

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03-23-2010, 11:16 AM
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New transfer agreement signed between the NHL and Sweden

Didn't know exactly where to put this, but it reminded me of other news in this section of the forum. Anyway a new transfer agreement was signed today between the NHL and Sweden. No words about if it's just for Sweden at the moment or if it apply for other countries as well.

I have no english source yet, but I have this in swedish for those who can read it. http://www.hockeyligan.se/index.php?article=5020

For those who can't, here's the highlights:

- It's a 2 year agreement (so it will end after the 1011/1012 season)
- The NHL will pay 225 000 USD for every player leaving the SEL (could be other leagues as well, but the article is written from a SEL perspective)
- The deadline for signing players who are under contract is June 15th
- Players who are under contract may be signed up until August 15th the year they get drafted
- Players under the age of 22, who were not drafted in the first round, may return to their old Swedish teams if they don't make their NHL squad

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Interesting. I thought the NHL had to sign transfer agreements with the IIHF, rather than individual European leagues. Or is the SEL no longer under IIHF purview?

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I believe the NHL is not going through the IIHF. They are negotiation transfer agreements with individual countries.

I read a while ago that they were close to signing this agreement and that they were working on one for Finland.

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The NHL would *love* to have a single transfer agreement, through the IIHF, that would cover all other leagues.

The Russian contingent has been the significant hold out (and as a consequence, fewer players have been drafted; and the quality of players hasn't been as good as in past "generations"). They are asking like for $1-4m *per player* in development cost repayment.

(Prior to the 2004-5 lockout, the IIHF-NHL agreement paid $60k or so, IIRC.)


And without an agreement, the European leagues were getting $0.

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Seems to make the NCAA and Canadian Junior leagues a real bargain.

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Seems to make the NCAA and Canadian Junior leagues a real bargain.
Definitely the NCAA. You will usually get a more mature player (physically and mentally) with a better education.

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The NHL would *love* to have a single transfer agreement, through the IIHF, that would cover all other leagues.

The Russian contingent has been the significant hold out (and as a consequence, fewer players have been drafted; and the quality of players hasn't been as good as in past "generations"). They are asking like for $1-4m *per player* in development cost repayment.

(Prior to the 2004-5 lockout, the IIHF-NHL agreement paid $60k or so, IIRC.)


And without an agreement, the European leagues were getting $0.
So you're saying the NHL has to pay the Russian league 1-4M for every player that signs over here? Does this include drafting and free agents and everything? It seems a bit ridiculous

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So you're saying the NHL has to pay the Russian league 1-4M for every player that signs over here? Does this include drafting and free agents and everything? It seems a bit ridiculous
Which is why there is no signed agreement.

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*bump*

Does anyone know how the transfer agreement effects ELC's? Anton Rodin signed his ELC this summer as a 19 year old, but he turns 20 in November so normally his contract won't slide. However, one of the Canucks staff said that because Rodin will be playing in Sweden and because Brynas is going to pay his contract that his contract would indeed slide.

Anyone know if that's true or was it simply a mistake?

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*bump*

Does anyone know how the transfer agreement effects ELC's? Anton Rodin signed his ELC this summer as a 19 year old, but he turns 20 in November so normally his contract won't slide. However, one of the Canucks staff said that because Rodin will be playing in Sweden and because Brynas is going to pay his contract that his contract would indeed slide.

Anyone know if that's true or was it simply a mistake?
He's considered 19 as that's his age at the start of the season ("9/15").

Contracts of players aged 18/19 playing in the Canadian Major Juniors or Europe can slide (and don't count against the limit of 50).

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Yeah, I realize he's 19 on September 15th, but there is a section of the CBA that says...

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In the event that an 18 year old or 19 year old Player signs an SPC
with a Club but does not play at least ten (10) NHL Games in the first season under that
SPC, the term of his SPC and his number of years in the Entry Level System shall be
extended for a period of one (1) year, except that this automatic extension will not apply
to a Player who is 19 according to Section 9.2 by virtue of turning 20 between September
16 and December 31 in the year in which he first signs an SPC.
Unless a Player and Club
expressly agree to the contrary, in the event a Player's SPC is extended an additional year
in accordance with this subsection, all terms of the SPC, with the exception of Signing
Bonuses, but including Paragraph 1 Salary, games played bonuses and Exhibit 5 bonuses,
shall be extended; provided, however, that the Player's Paragraph 1 Salary shall be
extended in all circumstances.
Rodin turns 20 in November so he fits in the bold section. The way I've read the CBA it seems to contradict. Everywhere says the age of signing is the players age on September 15th. That one sentence confuses things though.

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The NHL would *love* to have a single transfer agreement, through the IIHF, that would cover all other leagues.

The Russian contingent has been the significant hold out (and as a consequence, fewer players have been drafted; and the quality of players hasn't been as good as in past "generations"). They are asking like for $1-4m *per player* in development cost repayment.

(Prior to the 2004-5 lockout, the IIHF-NHL agreement paid $60k or so, IIRC.)


And without an agreement, the European leagues were getting $0.
SO how much is the NHL giving the Russians for the few players they do draft? Is it $0? Is that why fewer are being drafted because the NHL now pays $0?

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SO how much is the NHL giving the Russians for the few players they do draft? Is it $0? Is that why fewer are being drafted because the NHL now pays $0?
Currently $0.

The problem isn't drafting the players, it's getting them to agree to a contract and actually play in the NHL. You have to find guys interested in playing in the NHL. (And be worth the hassle of the dealing with the KHL/Russian federation to go through the hoops to say they are free/available to sign with NHL team.)

The KHL still isn't helpful with giving guys their walking papers to head to the NHL and have poached a few guys (Radulov, especially).

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