I don't know about Hudler, but supposedly Radulov was told by KHL people to finish his KHL contract or never play for team Russia.
That makes the most sense for me as to why he's not back already. Ovechkin and Malkin both told Bettman they would play for Russia in Sochi, even if he banned NHL players from particpating. Bettman has no way of keeping them off that team. But I would bet there are plenty of people in Russia who could keep Rads off the team if he breaks his KHL contract.
Nothing against that poster or whatever "source" that information came from, but I can say with near certainty that Weber never said anything of the sort, and I don't think anyone holds any ill will toward Radulov for the Arnott incident. It's not like he swung a stick in anger or something. He was excited by a huge goal, and it was clearly an accident. It was unfortunate, but it was a freak accident.
I would guess if/when he comes back it will be a little akward at first. I'm sure a couple of guys will give him their two cents and move on, others will welcome him back with no hesitation and others will hold a grudge until he proves his worth as a teammate.
If guys can play with Bertuzzi years after the Moore incident, I'm sure our guys can play with Rads years after his bad decision.
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Just checked his season stats in the KHL and the man is a beast.
he is 4th in the league scoring points regular season
In 54 Games played 24goals and 39assists more than a point a game and a whopping +44
He leads the league in points in the playoffs with 13 (3G10A) in 10 games.
ok for arguments sake the KHL is much weaker than the nhl and all that stuff...
But I'm certain that if he would play in an elite team he would be among the best in the NHL. For our team i would say he is for sure a 60p+ player and our team would be SO much better with him. Hope he comes back to us
Oh and I'm gonna check is playoff game Friday and Saturday and see how he actually plays.
Now compare Radulov's KHL team to the rest of its division. One other team reached the 90 point plateau.
Ufa has at least six other NHL players on the roster (just did a quick look up and down the roster)
Hell, Thoreson had an equal number of goals as Radulov as a member of Ufa .... where's the clamoring that he'd be a star in the NHL based on those numbers?
Radulov would definitely be a very good top 6 winger here in the NHL. Borderline 1st line talent. The problem is convincing him to come over... I personally have it set in my mind that he is never coming back. If he does, it would be a bonus, but I'm not holding my breath or penciling him in any time soon.
I am not a Nashville fan, but I mean no ill will to you guys when I say that Radulov should not be welcomed back into the NHL period. He made his bed and now he should be forced to lie in it!
Any player who will bolt on a contract like Radulov did is not the type of person who deserves a roster spot in the best league in the world.
Making broad based accusations associating Radulov with "the mob" without any shred of evidence is bordering too close to libel and I have been told previously to nip any such accusations at the bud...
Speaking in general terms is fine, but clearly stating that Radulov was or is involved with any so called underworld organization is not going to be allowed without concrete evidence provided to backup any such allegation...
I had a dream last night we were playing the Canucks and Radulov came back for the playoffs and we swept the series. My girlfriend woke me up this morning asking me why I was cursing in my sleep
I don't see any information anywhere that has me thinking he's very likely to return. "He talked to Poile at xxxx", well la di da.
Maybe he will return. But I have to believe there will be a real effort to offer him a solid deal to stay in the KHL. He'll have to weigh that versus making more money over here, but far less the first year. I don't know, it depends on if he's the type who feels the need to "prove himself". I don't see why he won't decide it's a nice gig he has for himself to stay near home. And if the other strong arm reasons people mention (which sound made up to me, except the national team thing) are actually true, why wouldn't they still exist? Unless you figure criminals no longer exist, or he no longer cares about the national team in future Worlds or Olympics since they got smoked in the recent Olympics.
So, I'll consider it a bonus if we see Radu here again, or get something for him in a trade. But I won't count those chickens just yet.
I'm sure there will be some astronomical contract offered to keep him in the KHL.
My take is he feels like a superstar now. But in the back of his mind he knows he's just a big fish in a little pond. If Kovy, Semin and other Russian "stars" go back to Russia, he'll view his pond a bit bigger and stay. But if they stay in the NHL that will set the tone that the NHL is the league to play in. He will want the same superstar status and will see that he won't get that over there. Kovy and Semin are the factors for me.
In regards to the money. He didn't have millions when he jumped ship, which realistically would be hard to pass up for any of us. He has that now and I'd have to guess once you have the cars, house, etc. you start wanting more than what money will buy. (ie. superstar status, etc.) So the money will still be important to him, but if he has a shot at making bank and becoming an international star, he'll come back for nothing to get that.
I don't see any information anywhere that has me thinking he's very likely to return. "He talked to Poile at xxxx", well la di da.
Maybe he will return. But I have to believe there will be a real effort to offer him a solid deal to stay in the KHL. He'll have to weigh that versus making more money over here, but far less the first year. I don't know, it depends on if he's the type who feels the need to "prove himself". I don't see why he won't decide it's a nice gig he has for himself to stay near home. And if the other strong arm reasons people mention (which sound made up to me, except the national team thing) are actually true, why wouldn't they still exist? Unless you figure criminals no longer exist, or he no longer cares about the national team in future Worlds or Olympics since they got smoked in the recent Olympics.
So, I'll consider it a bonus if we see Radu here again, or get something for him in a trade. But I won't count those chickens just yet.
So since the IIHF has an agreement with the NHL and the NHL and KHL have non-poaching agreements, can Radulov legally sign with a KHL team after this current contract expires, since essentially he has a binding NHL contract?
Not sure I'm familiar with the bolded portion. Can you elaborate? Thanks in advance.
Yea sure.... Okay so my friend knows Brent Peterson personally and he played golf with him last summer. And when they were golfing he said they talked about the Radulov situation. And he said that Peterson said if Radulov decides to come back Weber said he is gonna knock him out in the locker room. My friend isnt a liar and I dont see why he would lie about that so I believe it. But i would still take him back
So since the IIHF has an agreement with the NHL and the NHL and KHL have non-poaching agreements, can Radulov legally sign with a KHL team after this current contract expires, since essentially he has a binding NHL contract?
Yea sure.... Okay so my friend knows Brent Peterson personally and he played golf with him last summer. And when they were golfing he said they talked about the Radulov situation. And he said that Peterson said if Radulov decides to come back Weber said he is gonna knock him out in the locker room. My friend isnt a liar and I dont see why he would lie about that so I believe it
And once Weber does that, it's over and the team moves forward. It's like guys fighting in games, they do it, move on and that's that. I'm sure a few guys will want to take swipes at him and he probably has it coming but that's in the locker room and that's a team decision how they handle it.
And once Weber does that, it's over and the team moves forward. It's like guys fighting in games, they do it, move on and that's that. I'm sure a few guys will want to take swipes at him and he probably has it coming but that's in the locker room and that's a team decision how they handle it.
Yes it is a team decision and i hope they make the right decision. everyone knows what rads did was messed up but people do make mistakes and i hope to god he realises what he did was wrong and he comes back to us and owns for us. But i guess thar might not happen unfortunatley
Yes it is a team decision and i hope they make the right decision. everyone knows what rads did was messed up but people do make mistakes and i hope to god he realises what he did was wrong and he comes back to us and owns for us. But i guess thar might not happen unfortunatley
Not defending his actions at all but how do we really know what he did was wrong at the end of the day? We are presented with certain facts and we are basing our decisions of what he did, right or wrong. There is usually more than one side to the story and until we hear what has really gone on here, he may have made the right decision. Just playing devil's advocate, not defending him.
So since the IIHF has an agreement with the NHL and the NHL and KHL have non-poaching agreements, can Radulov legally sign with a KHL team after this current contract expires, since essentially he has a binding NHL contract?
I don't know. But maybe that's some hope. If the Russians want him to play on their international teams they may have to allow him to fulfill the rest of his NHL contract.
Maybe I'm too pessimistic. I figure there's always some sort of "right to work" thing where he can claim, with some validity, that he was already working in the KHL when the agreement was inked so he can continue. He could claim that he never signs with the NHL to begin with if those IIHF rules are in place, so it's retroactively applying an agreement to him. Or, he may decide he doesn't care what the IIHF opinion is. But, maybe it will be a factor. It is a good point.
Not defending his actions at all but how do we really know what he did was wrong at the end of the day? We are presented with certain facts and we are basing our decisions of what he did, right or wrong. There is usually more than one side to the story and until we hear what has really gone on here, he may have made the right decision. Just playing devil's advocate, not defending him.
Devils advocate? Not even the devil can make it "not wrong" to breach a contract like Rads did. It is absolutely undisputed that he failed to live up to the obligations of a valid contract, and thats "wrong" no matter what spin you put on it...
