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03-29-2010, 05:06 PM
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iPhones for Verizon? Yes!

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The overpriced phones will pair with the overpriced contracts nicely!

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On the heels of the Nexus One (which is arguably flopping) being available for AT&T / Rogers.

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"People briefed on the matter" have been saying this for years. Furthermore, this 2007 USA Today article says that AT&T is exclusive for 5 years, which would take them to 2012. http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireles...t-iphone_N.htm . I think iPhone on more carriers would be super but ... it's like the NHL to Winnipeg rumours.

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"People briefed on the matter" have been saying this for years. Furthermore, this 2007 USA Today article says that AT&T is exclusive for 5 years, which would take them to 2012. http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireles...t-iphone_N.htm . I think iPhone on more carriers would be super but ... it's like the NHL to Winnipeg rumours.
That's when the world is ending. Coincidence? I think not!

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03-29-2010, 07:53 PM
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The reports seem more believable this time around. Although I'm still skeptical, this is the 134487762 rumor about a CDMA iPhone going to Verizon.

AT&T stated they doing believe there will ever be a CDMA iPhone, but I can just imagine the fear in the back of their minds at the very idea.

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On the heels of the Nexus One (which is arguably flopping) being available for AT&T / Rogers.
As much as I am probably seen as an Android fanboy here on Geek Emporium and will sound like I'm coming up with excuses, there are reasons for the poor sales of the Nexus One.

#1 Google is trying to reverse an ugly trend in North America where the culture of subsidized phones runs so deep it's seems unthinkable to buy a phone outright for $200+ or a smartphone for $400+ while in the long run the contract will cost you FAR MORE than if you bought a phone outright.

#2 They unveiled it for 3G band on America's #4 Network. I don't know if Google feels like they owe T-Mobile for being gutsy enough to take a chance on the G1, but Google, seriously look at how well the Droid sold because it's on Verizon it's all in the numbers.

#3 ZERO advertising NOT EVEN ON THE INTERNET where Google is the AD KING! All sales have been purely from word to mouth and the tech blogosphere, this ties in to the Droid # being so good, they advertized the **** out of the Droid, it simply worked.

#4 They only sell em' online. People still buy **** in store! I know it's unbelievable but apparently having some demo unit or even a stupid dummy phone helps sell phones!

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03-29-2010, 08:18 PM
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Those aren't excuses; they are the reasons for the disappointing sales figures, especially marketing and carrier restriction. Doesn't take away from the phone itself though, which is too bad in this highly competitve mobile arms race.

And don't underestimate the availiblity of a hands-on demo. To see it, hold it, use it might just entice that many more people to (impulse?) purchase it, and is in itself another medium for marketing.

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This has only been rumored ever year for the last 3 years.

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This has only been rumored ever year for the last 3 years.
I actually believe it this time - AT&T's 3g coverage is pretty lousy, and there's only so much of a market in the US with them. 90 million subscribers is a lot to turn their back on, and this would finally put an end to those horrible commercials with Luke Wilson.

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Just like Rogers exclusive rights to IPhone ended last fall when Telus and Bell finally got the IPhone with help from their revamped network..

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I actually believe it this time - AT&T's 3g coverage is pretty lousy, and there's only so much of a market in the US with them. 90 million subscribers is a lot to turn their back on, and this would finally put an end to those horrible commercials with Luke Wilson.
I've believed it for awhile. I'm sure it will happen eventually. Will it be this time? Who knows.

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This has only been rumored ever year for the last 3 years.
All signs point to this happening.

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Knowing Google, they will find a way to pick up the sales for the N1. As stated above, there was NO marketing for the N1 yet they're still doing well enough for a phone that's only available online. This was probably just a prototype for Google ANYWAY. You know they're working on something far better right now...

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Knowing Google, they will find a way to pick up the sales for the N1. As stated above, there was NO marketing for the N1 yet they're still doing well enough for a phone that's only available online. This was probably just a prototype for Google ANYWAY. You know they're working on something far better right now...
Once the N1 comes out on Verizon, it will sell a lot better.

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I actually believe it this time - AT&T's 3g coverage is pretty lousy, and there's only so much of a market in the US with them. 90 million subscribers is a lot to turn their back on, and this would finally put an end to those horrible commercials with Luke Wilson.
ROFL, and I actually used to like Luke Wilson. But this is really what has me believing the rumors this time around. AT&T is dragging their feet when it comes to expanding and improving their 3G service.

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Just like Rogers exclusive rights to IPhone ended last fall when Telus and Bell finally got the IPhone with help from their revamped network..
You know Rogers never really had "exclusivity". It was just Rogers/Fido having the only GSM/HSPA network in Canada and conveniently having exactly the same frequencies as AT&T.

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Those aren't excuses; they are the reasons for the disappointing sales figures, especially marketing and carrier restriction. Doesn't take away from the phone itself though, which is too bad in this highly competitve mobile arms race.
You know with the AT&T/Rogers/Bell/Telus version should have come with a subsidy option like the T-Mobile Version. It would have eased the subsidy drunk people into getting the Nexus One.

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And don't underestimate the availiblity of a hands-on demo. To see it, hold it, use it might just entice that many more people to (impulse?) purchase it, and is in itself another medium for marketing.
I was being sarcastic.

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#1 Google is trying to reverse an ugly trend in North America where the culture of subsidized phones runs so deep it's seems unthinkable to buy a phone outright for $200+ or a smartphone for $400+ while in the long run the contract will cost you FAR MORE than if you bought a phone outright.
I just don't see this. I will pay $740 for my data plan with ATT over 2 years for my Iphone. I have a 3GS 16GB. What is that phone worth new? $500? I paid $200. Than means I will have paid $18 bucks a month for my data plan over 2 years. Doesn't seem to out of whack to me.

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I just don't see this. I will pay $740 for my data plan with ATT over 2 years for my Iphone. I have a 3GS 16GB. What is that phone worth new? $500? I paid $200. Than means I will have paid $18 bucks a month for my data plan over 2 years. Doesn't seem to out of whack to me.
Sorry if I'm interpreting this wrong I haven't had much sleep in the past 3 days but;

$740 total data plan cost after 24 months + $200 upfront =/= $500. and $740/24 =/= $18 per month

But yeah my math could be off with only 12 hours of sleep in the last 3 days... I could also be misinterpreting which I think I have....

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Sorry if I'm interpreting this wrong I haven't had much sleep in the past 3 days but;

$740 total data plan cost after 24 months + $200 upfront =/= $500. and $740/24 =/= $18 per month

But yeah my math could be off with only 12 hours of sleep in the last 3 days... I could also be misinterpreting which I think I have....
No Prob. Mine was a little off too.

I saved 300 on the phone, so 30x24=720 - 300 = 420 and 420 / 24 = 17.50 a month

I think that's right.

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This has only been rumored ever year for the last 3 years.
I don't think AT&T would like Verizon getting it, Sprint may not have as big of an impact though. I got a feeling it will go to Sprint because AT&T will do whatever it can to keep it off the Verizon network(explains the "3 years of rumors").

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