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03-30-2010, 04:07 AM
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Cowen definitely drops out of the top 10, his development has not gone as planned.

People saying Duchene over Tavares must be on drugs..Duchene has 2 more goals and 8 more points on a playoff team with real offensive support. Tavares is the main offensive player on his team that ranks dangerously close to last in the East.

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03-30-2010, 11:50 AM
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I think just based on this season it would have been, in my personal opinion:
1. Duchene
2. Tavares
3. Kane
4. Hedman
5. Kadri
6. Schenn
7. Kreider
8. Kulikov
9. Ashton
10. Holland
You have Chris Kreider at #7 and that was Leafs draft spot and he was the one I was hoping Leafs would draft.

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03-30-2010, 11:59 AM
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MPS at 10 was a big steal IMO

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I would rank Duchene ahead of Tavares right now ..

Duchene looks more dangerous offensively and seems to create more chances than Tavares has. He also seems better defensively. However, like some have mentioned, it's too early to tell whether or not it was the right pick. At the time Tavares was the logical #1 but hey, so was Daigle

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03-30-2010, 12:12 PM
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Schenn was taken for his safety as a pick because he's a lot more likely to be a big contributor at the NHL level than Kadri. With Schenn, the only knock on his game is that he problaby doesn't have the offence to ever be a first line talent.

This is similar to the Tyler Myers / Luke Schenn comparison the year before. Schenn was basically a guarantee to make the NHL and become a top 4 defenceman because he was already at NHL level when drafted. Tyler Myers was still very raw, had some coordination problems because of his height & wasn't regarded as overly physical. It turns out that Myers spent last season working on all of those things and is now poised to become a star in the NHL, whereas Schenn will stick around, but likely never become close to what Tyler Myers is. While you can say that in hindsight we made a bad pick, hindsight is 20/20. Had the Leafs taken Myers at 5 (or even 7), they would've faced a very significant possibility that Myers didn't have what it took to make the NHL.

The knock on Kadri isn't the skill or the offence. Its the head & the size and he's done absolutely nothing to show that he's improved on those weaknesses (which will be the cause of his downfall if he fails). Therefore, at this point there is little reason to increase his valuation from 1 year ago.

The knock on Schenn is the offence, and he's done a good job of allowing those numbers to grow. He played in 11 less games this year, yet managed to score 2 more goals and 9 more assists. Now, this is problably mostly attributable to one more year of age and experience rather than a revolution in his offensive game, but he is certainly on track as he was tied for 4th in scoring in the WHL while playing significantly less games than everyone infront of him except for Eberle (who is a year older).

Infact, if you look at the offensive numbers alone, you've got Schenn in his 3rd WHL year and Kadri in his 4th OHL year putting up extremely similar totals in a similar amount of games..... and if you don't consider offensive talent, Schenn is the better player hands down. Granted, Schenn plays with better offensive players (he does lead them though)... but there really isn't a lot of solid evidence to say that Kadri is going to be this elite offensive talent; specially when you consider that scorign in the WHL is typically more difficult than the OHL. Tyler Seguin is a player who is younger and has significantly less OHL experience, yet complete domiantes him offensively on a Whalers team that isn't much to write home about.
Seguin is better then both, and its not even close

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