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04-04-2010, 12:18 PM
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we keep JD and DD

With our team in a young rebuild is their any chance we could trade Habby to one of hose teams who really need a starting goalie. We could even include a young player in the deal or take back some salary. I think moving forward with both JD and DD is a great idea as if we send one down they will be gone 4 sure. Think of our goalie future as JDD,DD,Roy,Rynnas. That would set us up well. The teams that might have some interest would be atl,clb,fla,phi,stl,was. I know we would have to include something good with him and take back some salary but that I think would be worth it. Your thoughts or possible trade ideas.

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interesting idea, i wouldn't mind doing it since we are in a rebuild but i wouldn't want to have to take too much back in the way of waste.

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Who would take Habby though? Not the Hawks, I wouldn't think.

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Nobody would take Khabby.

That's no reason to keep him on the roster though, at least at the expense of one of our young goalies.

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Doubt anyone would be interested in him. But if the rumors are true about Florida being serious about trading Vokoun, maybe something around Olesz and Khabibulin. Maybe to Philly with something around him and Hartnell. Still doubtful that any team would want him.

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No one touches that contract. Would have to add too much to sweeten the deal for someone to take him.

I hate the idea of losing one. Especially considering the long time to develop both. To see one move on and have success in another organization would be tough.

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No one, I repeat NO ONE puts a claim on Dubynk. He clears waivers every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
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No one, I repeat NO ONE puts a claim on Dubynk. He clears waivers every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
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There is no way he clears waivers, More than one team would take him 4sure, I think we should make a poll and see what others think

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There is no way he clears waivers, More than one team would take him 4sure, I think we should make a poll and see what others think
The team that claims Dubnyk has to keep him on the NHL roster for the entire season.

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No one, I repeat NO ONE puts a claim on Dubynk. He clears waivers every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
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Basically this. Dubnyk has played basically the whole year in the nhl. He has proven he can't stop nhl shooters. He just can't. Nobody is using a roster spot on him. He's being waived. You can take that to the bank.

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I hope you guys are right but i can see a team with a solid starter that plays 65-70 games take a chance on him and he would not have a ton of pressure and get lots of nhl practice. I think long term he will be better than JDD

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I hope you guys are right but i can see a team with a solid starter that plays 65-70 games take a chance on him and he would not have a ton of pressure and get lots of nhl practice. I think long term he will be better than JDD
What would be the point? He wouldn't develop so claiming him on waivers to put him in that situation basically has zero chance of a payoff.

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The oilers have three unmovable players--Habby, HOrcoff and Souray

a three head monster next year will not work

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The oilers have three unmovable players--Habby, HOrcoff and Souray

a three head monster next year will not work
I think I heard Rishaug say that Souray was gone on deadline day but news of the infection came out and they had to call off the deal.

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The oilers have three unmovable players--Habby, HOrcoff and Souray
Souray would have been a Ranger if he was not forced to miss the rest of the year with his hand injury. I would say he is unmovable because if it wasn't for the hand injury Oilers trade Souray and not Visnovsky.

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Souray is definitely movable. In fact, I don't want to trade him unless he really wants out (or is a dressing room problem).

I think he'll have a really strong year next year. But a 15-20 goal defenseman who plays physical, in his early/mid 30s with 2 seasons left on a front-loaded market-value deal?

He's easily traded. Especially in the off-season. Perhaps not to every team, and we'd have to take some salary back, to be sure. But heck yeah, he can move.

Really though, I'd hang onto him this year, hope he has a strong rebound and then see what the market is at the trade deadline.

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In 3 FULL season with the oilers Souray if healthy would have played in 246 games he has only played in 144 missing 102 games in 3 years. The latest injury he had hurt his tradability a lot more. Souray is fragile and at 5.4mill cap hit or 10.8 for the last 2 years on his deal--unless we are taking atlaest that much back in the deal--I do not see many teams gamblig on Souray

back to the goalies

The three headed goalie option is not a good one and should be avoided like the plague

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With our team in a young rebuild is their any chance we could trade Habby to one of hose teams who really need a starting goalie. We could even include a young player in the deal or take back some salary. I think moving forward with both JD and DD is a great idea as if we send one down they will be gone 4 sure. Think of our goalie future as JDD,DD,Roy,Rynnas. That would set us up well. The teams that might have some interest would be atl,clb,fla,phi,stl,was. I know we would have to include something good with him and take back some salary but that I think would be worth it. Your thoughts or possible trade ideas.
Khabi is untradeable, bottom line.

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Proposal: Send these kids back to the AHL where they belong and trade for Halak.

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Souray is definitely movable. In fact, I don't want to trade him unless he really wants out (or is a dressing room problem).

I think he'll have a really strong year next year. But a 15-20 goal defenseman who plays physical, in his early/mid 30s with 2 seasons left on a front-loaded market-value deal?

He's easily traded. Especially in the off-season. Perhaps not to every team, and we'd have to take some salary back, to be sure. But heck yeah, he can move.

Really though, I'd hang onto him this year, hope he has a strong rebound and then see what the market is at the trade deadline.
I think Souray to ANA makes a lot of sense of Neids retires. You might even get away with not having to take a load of salary in return.

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There is no way he clears waivers, More than one team would take him 4sure, I think we should make a poll and see what others think
I feel pretty confident insaying no one take DD. Remember, any team that does take him will be forced to keep him on their 23 man roster. Has DD done enough for any team to purposely keep a spot open for him? I say absolutely not. Maybe one day he'll become the goaltender you are projecting DD to be, but that isn't what he is right now. At this point DD is not even an adequate backup.

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If anyone thinks Dubnyk would be claimed, please name the team, and the NHL roster goalie that he would be replacing.

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I ask this everytime this stupid thread comes up, and not a single name or team is ever mentioned.

HE HAS to be on the NHL roster. He CAN NOT Be sent down to the AHL.

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If anyone thinks Dubnyk would be claimed, please name the team, and the NHL roster goalie that he would be replacing.

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I ask this everytime this stupid thread comes up, and not a single name or team is ever mentioned.

HE HAS to be on the NHL roster. He CAN NOT Be sent down to the AHL.
I can only think of two teams that would even consider picking him up. Anaheim (McElhinney) and New Jersey (Dannis).

But I also think he would clear.

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In 3 FULL season with the oilers Souray if healthy would have played in 246 games he has only played in 144 missing 102 games in 3 years. The latest injury he had hurt his tradability a lot more. Souray is fragile and at 5.4mill cap hit or 10.8 for the last 2 years on his deal--unless we are taking atlaest that much back in the deal--I do not see many teams gamblig on Souray

back to the goalies

The three headed goalie option is not a good one and should be avoided like the plague
Except the deal was going down when Souray was injured. The only reason it didn't take place was because of an infection related to the surgery. I don't see how it changes anybodies mind. Souray is definitely tradeable imo and even if he's not I'm not really sure I care. He's only got 2 years left anyways.

And back on topic I would love to see a poll on whether or not Dubnyk would get claimed. I'd be willing to bet nobody would vote that he would.

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I can only think of two teams that would even consider picking him up. Anaheim (McElhinney) and New Jersey (Dannis).

But I also think he would clear.
Vancouver? if they trade Scheider
Flames
Phoenix

how many teams have a good back up?

Philly and Detroit will be taking a long look at their goalies in the off season

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