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04-05-2010, 12:42 PM
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The second coming of Kelly Hrudey...

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Hrudey got the Kings to the Finals. I'll take it.

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Awwwwwwwwww, I love you Quick, you **** head.

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Hrudey got the Kings to the Finals. I'll take it.
Despite and not because of Hrudey. The Great One playing his best hockey made that spring possible.

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Despite and not because of Hrudey. The Great One playing his best hockey made that spring possible.
IIRC, Kelly Hrudey aka the "flopping fish" is the only goalie to lose three consecutive SCF games in OT.

No, Quick is, mostly, sound positionally, and is the reason we are where we are. (No disrespect to JB intended).

If Quick continues to play like he did against the waterfowl Saturday, we can beat anybody, but to do that the offense needs to remember how to play.

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How many Sprites and bags of potato chips does Quick tear through between periods?

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... The Kings should be so lucky. Hrudey was quite a bit better then than Quick is now.

Six times Hrudey was top 10 in the NHL in save percentage, and he did that playing behind some very poor defensive teams in Long Island and Los Angeles.

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I was a fan of Hrudey's, but the man sure did frustrate me many times. The closest thing to a Hrudey that the Kings had in net in recent memory was Roman Cechmanek.

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Hrudey was awesome.

Quick is awesome.

Close enough.

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Hrudey was awesome.

Quick is awesome.

Close enough.
Probably wrong on both accounts.. They're okay.

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Probably wrong on both accounts.. They're okay.
You know what's OK? The fact that they are both awesome. That's OK.

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Probably wrong on both accounts.. They're okay.
When Quick gets the Kings to the SCF, then they can be "equal" I guess. (I would put Hrudey a few notches above Quick - just based on experience. And the cool blue headband)

Your man-love for Bernier is cute though.

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The best part is Quick is only finishing up his first full season as an NHL goalie. He has a great golatending coach and a great attitude. He has the build and determination to get better. I think in a few seasons, he can be the best Kings goalie since Rogie.

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When Quick gets the Kings to the SCF, then they can be "equal" I guess. (I would put Hrudey a few notches above Quick - just based on experience. And the cool blue headband)

Your man-love for Bernier is cute though.
Is that your only criteria? SCF?

Besides, it took Hrudey 11 season to get there.

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The best part is Quick is only finishing up his first full season as an NHL goalie. He has a great golatending coach and a great attitude. He has the build and determination to get better. I think in a few seasons, he can be the best Kings goalie since Rogie.
better be careful what you are saying.... you are going to upset a lot of JB fans..

BTW, I hope Quick can take a step further than Hrudey and actually win the Cup/

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Nah, I agree, Hrudey was never an amazing goalie, he never had the ability to steal a game. If the Kings had a good goalie in the 93 finals, they would've won it for sure. So in that regards, ya, Hrudey and Quick are BOTH mediocre. Bernier will be better than both those guys, I'll start a thread next season with the title "The second coming of Christ/Brodeur" and there'll be a pic of Jon the Baptist Bernier

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I was a fan of Hrudey's, but the man sure did frustrate me many times. The closest thing to a Hrudey that the Kings had in net in recent memory was Roman Cechmanek.
I must have missed the part where the Roman Candle won a bunch of games.

Wait, Roman Candles explode, not implode. Bad nickname.

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I must have missed the part where the Roman Candle won a bunch of games.

Wait, Roman Candles explode, not implode. Bad nickname.
I was implying in-style more so than results. I don't think the Kings were very successful with Hrudey. Their lack of playoff success outside of 1993 was very frustrating, especially when they had better seasons in prior seasons. Hrudey also struggled with consistency due to exhaustion.

I recall Hrudey having some sort of condition where he would hit a wall, fatigue would set in and he would have to sit out a stretch of games. Hrudey was a very streaky goalie. I have fond memories of him, but watching some classic Kings games with him in net, I'm convinced that a less erratic goalie would have led the Kings to further success.

Jonathan Quick has already established a new Kings record of wins in a season. A record that was not held by Kelly Hrudey for reasons stated above. Quick is a better goalie in every way, shape and form and I think he can take the Kings further than a lot of you expect.

Quick doesn't have the same mental condition that phased Stephane Fiset and Jamie Storr in the playoffs.

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I was implying in-style more so than results. I don't think the Kings were very successful with Hrudey. Their lack of playoff success outside of 1993 was very frustrating, especially when they had better seasons in prior seasons. Hrudey also struggled with consistency due to exhaustion.

I recall Hrudey having some sort of condition where he would hit a wall, fatigue would set in and he would have to sit out a stretch of games. Hrudey was a very streaky goalie. I have fond memories of him, but watching some classic Kings games with him in net, I'm convinced that a less erratic goalie would have led the Kings to further success.

Jonathan Quick has already established a new Kings record of wins in a season. A record that was not held by Kelly Hrudey for reasons stated above. Quick is a better goalie in every way, shape and form and I think he can take the Kings further than a lot of you expect.

Quick doesn't have the same mental condition that phased Stephane Fiset and Jamie Storr in the playoffs.
I agree. I know you were talking styles, and I said that with my tongue seated firmly in my cheek.

I loved Hrudey, but moreso because he was the goalie when I first got crazed about the Kings, and I met him, got him to sign my jersey outside the locker room and he was really cool.

He was erratic, but man is that a lot of fun to watch. Quick is erratic too, and I don't think their styles, considering the large generational gap, are too different. But yes, I think Quick will have proved himself far superior by the time he is done.

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IIRC, Kelly Hrudey aka the "flopping fish" is the only goalie to lose three consecutive SCF games in OT.

No, Quick is, mostly, sound positionally, and is the reason we are where we are. (No disrespect to JB intended).

If Quick continues to play like he did against the waterfowl Saturday, we can beat anybody, but to do that the offense needs to remember how to play.
I'm with Diehard on this one. Hrudey and Quick are nothing alike. Hrudey was rarely in control and frequently out of position, and then there was his gaping 5-hole.

Quick has none of those attributes ingrained in his game. We'll be fine with Quick in the playoffs. He isn't going to be the reason the Kings lose a series.

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I think Quick is slightly better than Hrudey. More sound positionally than Hrudey. However in terms of talent, it's a fair comparison. Hrudey was an average goalie and sometimes was above average. So is Quick.

Hrudey was never an elite guy, nor is Quick going to be.

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Nah, I agree, Hrudey was never an amazing goalie, he never had the ability to steal a game. If the Kings had a good goalie in the 93 finals, they would've won it for sure. So in that regards, ya, Hrudey and Quick are BOTH mediocre.
... The longest game in Kings history was the double OT win in 1993 at Vancouver, and Hrudey stole that one. Hrudey also excelled in the Toronto series, outplaying Felix Potvin three times, and he was the main reason the Kings were able to keep Montreal close in the three straight OT games. Gretzky was the Kings' MVP in those playoffs, but Hrudey certainly had his moments.

Hrudey was about a B- goalie in his career -- above average, sometimes spectacular, other times looked terrible, was prone to massive slumps.

Quick, by comparison, is about a D+ goalie (a C- if you include what he's done in the shootout). Quick will almost certainly get better as he gains experience, but after the 10-11 season, he's 99.99% likely to be improving while playing for another team. The "heart" "grit" "determination" "warrior mentality" "attitude" yada yada yada about Quick is tiresome and has become a parody of itself; he is what he is, a serviceable goalie who is bridging the gap to Bernier. It wasn't his fault he got overused, but what's done is done and we'll see how his consistency holds up.

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