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04-08-2010, 11:49 PM
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Mike Rathje

I dunno if this has been discussed or not, but isn't Rathje still affecting our salary cap right now? Doesn't his 3.5 million (I think) cap hit go away after this year because he is a FA? If so, shouldn't that 3.5 mill help us enormously to resign our FA's?

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His cap hit has not effected us for a while. All this offseason means is that the Flyers will stop sending him checks.

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Hm, ah well. Let's see what happens...

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I remember him.
I remember his goal against the Hurricanes with like 0.6 seconds left in regulation a while back.

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I remember when Rathje-Pitkanen was one of the best d pairings in the league for about four months.

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I dunno if this has been discussed or not, but isn't Rathje still affecting our salary cap right now? Doesn't his 3.5 million (I think) cap hit go away after this year because he is a FA? If so, shouldn't that 3.5 mill help us enormously to resign our FA's?
One way it could help losing his contract and the cap hit-in the summer that $3.5mm did count against the cap. Teams can spend over the cap in the off season by 10%, but with that Rathje money counting, it did limit the Flyers IF they wanted to spend it-which they never did.

The contract did count as a professional contract towards the limit of 50, which was a far bigger impact that the cap implications.

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he does affect us, with him on the LTIR we can't save up unused cap money for the deadline

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Yes, it has been discussed dozens of times.

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**** better happen this offseason/we better make it far in the playoffs because there's been a lot of dead-horse-beating going on recently...

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His cap hit has not effected us for a while. All this offseason means is that the Flyers will stop sending him checks.
well, since he was on LTIR, the Flyers never had the send him anything. NHL Insurance paid his salary

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well, since he was on LTIR, the Flyers never had the send him anything. NHL Insurance paid his salary
I have my doubts it would pick up the entire amount for the entire time he's been on LTIR, there's probably only cover for a proportion or to a maximum amount or a maximum indemnity period. I find it very unlikely an insurance company would pay the full amount for the entire period of his injury.

Not that it really matters, the Flyers have deep enough pockets and I'm sure insurance covered some of it.

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This is how Philly.com explained it back in March:

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sport...tml?page=2&c=y

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Sign that should hang over the locker of defenseman Mike Rathje, who is still on the Flyers' payroll but has been unable to play since 2006. That he is on the long-term injured-reserve list has limited the Flyers' ability to make deals. Because Rathje guaranteed that the Flyers would have at least one player on LTIR list, the club had to absorb an acquired player's full cap hit rather than his prorated salary.
So, if the Flyers acquired a player at this past deadline, the team would have had to take a full cap hit rather than prorated because Rathje was on LTIR.

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This is how Philly.com explained it back in March:

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sport...tml?page=2&c=y



So, if the Flyers acquired a player at this past deadline, the team would have had to take a full cap hit rather than prorated because Rathje was on LTIR.
Wow, I did not know that last part. That really sucks.

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This is how Philly.com explained it back in March:

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sport...tml?page=2&c=y



So, if the Flyers acquired a player at this past deadline, the team would have had to take a full cap hit rather than prorated because Rathje was on LTIR.
Which says something about the lack of moves by the Flyers at the deadline.

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I remember his goal against the Hurricanes with like 0.6 seconds left in regulation a while back.
I'm pretty sure that goal was scored by gagne, I was at that game. He also had the shootout winner

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^ Freddy Meyer had the goal against Carolina, a tip-in of Rathje's shot (game decided in a shootout).

Rathje scored an OT winner against Pittsburgh.

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^ Freddy Meyer had the goal against Carolina, a tip-in of Rathje's shot (game decided in a shootout).

Rathje scored an OT winner against Pittsburgh.

You're right..http://hurricanes.nhl.com/club/recap.htm?id=2005020925

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It's on YouTube, too.

A goal mouth scramble and both Meyer and Gagne were there.


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^^^That clip makes me miss Dorny.

He could be a bit boring, but I enjoyed his time in the broadcast booth. Best thing about it was his analysis with the telestrator between periods. Haha, he even gets the telestrator going at the end of that clip. But yeah, I think it was good for him to move on when he did and I wouldn't trade Jonesy for anybody, but I wish they'd at least revive the telestrator analysis stuff...have Jonesy do it. Clement is an ok guy, but I preferred it when he was just doing national broadcasts rather than the Flyers. I know Jones does VS, but if it were up to me I'd have him doing the Flyers full-time.

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The sun will shine a little bit brighter on July 1 when I look at the Flyers Cap Chart and no longer see Mike Rathje's name.

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I remember when Rathje-Pitkanen was one of the best d pairings in the league for about four months.
That was going to be a fun year, then injuries... Typical Philly.

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He could be a bit boring, but I enjoyed his time in the broadcast booth.
I miss Dorny too.

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I'm new to this game: Why would Rathje get 3.5 millions, and who gave him that???

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I'm new to this game: Why would Rathje get 3.5 millions, and who gave him that???
Those are the quotes that matter from the time:

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``What we wanted was size and guys who are difficult to play against on the back end,'' said former Sharks general manager Dean Lombardi, now a pro scout with Philadelphia.

Rathje wasn't the Flyers' only target. They added two other over-sized defensemen Tuesday -- Derian Hatcher (four years, $14 million) and Chris Therien (one year, $500,000).

Lombardi downplayed any particular role he had in the Flyers' decision to sign Rathje.

``Sure, I was there and knew him for 10 years, but it's not like Rat's a secret,'' Lombardi said, noting that Flyers Coach Ken Hitchcock used to coach Dallas and knew Rathje's contributions well.

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