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04-06-2010, 02:53 PM
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Iginla Blames Himself for Playoff Predicament

Good article in the Globe and Mail by Eric Duhatschek.

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When asked if he could pinpoint what went wrong – and why the Flames are where they are, when hopes were so high going into the season, Iginla answered: “That’s a hard question. I don’t want to make excuses. I don’t think it’s the system. I think we have a good system.

“If you break it down, I think we have a really good goalie l- a great goalie (Miikka Kiprusoff). Our defence is really good. Our fourth line has been solid, our third line we can put with anybody, our second line is playing well.

“Our first line, this year, we went 10 games without winning. How many 2-1 goal games were in there? Our power play, our top line, we needed to do more.”

You can tell just how frustrated he is, listening to his interview on the Fan 960 this afternoon. Hopefully he breaks out of his scoring drought tonight.

One thing you have to admire about the Captain is that this guy is never one to hide from the criticism, no matter how bad things look.

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I think he will have a bounce back season next year and missing the playoffs might do some good for this team.

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I think the problem is that everyone is expecting play out of him that he's no longer capable of. He's a good shooter and a set-up man but he doesn't have the speed anymore to dominate shifts like he used to. It was already apparent last year but Cammalleri's 39 goals made it less noticeable.

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I know this has been said and re-hashed over and over, but I still wonder if this team would look so terrible if we had kept Cammy over Jokinen or Bouwmeester (preferably Joker lol).

A lineup like this could have been pretty good:

Cammy-Backlund-Iggy
Bourque-Langkow-Dawes
Glencross-Lombardi/Boyd/Conroy-Moss
Nystrom-Lombardi/Boyd/Conroy-Prust

Phaneuf-Regehr
Bouwmeester-Giordano
Sarich-Pardy

Kipper

That looks a lot better than what we've got now to me. Not to mention having Cammy would be great for our pathetic PP. But whats done is done I guess.....

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We should bring back Tang's. Hes going to be dirt cheap next year.

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I think the problem is that everyone is expecting play out of him that he's no longer capable of. He's a good shooter and a set-up man but he doesn't have the speed anymore to dominate shifts like he used to. It was already apparent last year but Cammalleri's 39 goals made it less noticeable.
I wasn't expecting a 50 goal season, but when you manage just one goal in the last 13 games while trying to fight for a playoff spot, there are no excuses.

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We should bring back Tang's. Hes going to be dirt cheap next year.
Assuming he'd want back. I've heard he left because of Keenan, but I think there are a lot of teams who'd toss him offers if he's going to be dirt cheap

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He acknowledges it. He knows what's up. The guy is this year's Kiprusoff: he becomes everyone's scapegoat to due to our team's failings.

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I'll be the first to admit that he hasn't been himself this year.. and that definitley is ONE of the reasons why we find ourself outside of the playoff pictue right now. That said, poor guy just sounded defeated and exhausted in the radio version of the interview they played on 960.

Granted, he's a captain on a Canadian franchise and one of the faces of Canadian hockey so there's going to be a TON of pressure... but it almost seems like the guy just needs the city to tell him that he's still appreciated out here after the beating he's taken in the media the last couple of weeks.

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I know this has been said and re-hashed over and over, but I still wonder if this team would look so terrible if we had kept Cammy over Jokinen or Bouwmeester (preferably Joker lol).

A lineup like this could have been pretty good:

Cammy-Backlund-Iggy
Bourque-Langkow-Dawes
Glencross-Lombardi/Boyd/Conroy-Moss
Nystrom-Lombardi/Boyd/Conroy-Prust

Phaneuf-Regehr
Bouwmeester-Giordano
Sarich-Pardy

Kipper

That looks a lot better than what we've got now to me. Not to mention having Cammy would be great for our pathetic PP. But whats done is done I guess.....
Our PP was horrible at the end of last season to with Cammy. But it doesn't take an idiot to notice the difference of how it effected our first line. Iggy has 32 goals this season and 35 last year so basically his assists have dropped. Its going to happen when your setting up the likes of Glencross, dawes and moss all season rather then a pure scorer like cammy.

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Our PP was horrible at the end of last season to with Cammy. But it doesn't take an idiot to notice the difference of how it effected our first line. Iggy has 32 goals this season and 35 last year so basically his assists have dropped. Its going to happen when your setting up the likes of Glencross, dawes and moss all season rather then a pure scorer like cammy.
And how many 1 goal games have we lost this season where we went 0% on the PP? Even if Cammy made a difference just by scoring one or two more goals on the PP, then we could be a few points higher in the standings....

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Sorry but Cammalleri at $6 million is overpriced; he only shows up during contract years, and when he wasn't scoring he was pretty useless (also see: playoffs).

In my opinion, Todd "The Floater" Bertuzzi (18g, 25a) would have been a better choice at 1.5 million on the 2nd or 3rd line and as a PP or shootout specialist than someone like Dawes / Moss / Glencross / Sjostrom / Kotalik etc.

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I wasn't expecting a 50 goal season, but when you manage just one goal in the last 13 games while trying to fight for a playoff spot, there are no excuses.



Assuming he'd want back. I've heard he left because of Keenan, but I think there are a lot of teams who'd toss him offers if he's going to be dirt cheap
But alot of teams will also notice that Tangs couldn't play well with the likes of Stamkos and Vinny (even though his year has been pretty bad as well). He played ok in Montreal, but his calling card and breakout came with the Flames.

I can see Montreal wanting him back, but if Tangs remembers his nice career year in Calgary under Playfair he might comeback given that Keenan is gone?

2.5m right now. I can see his price dropping to a one year 1.5m with his current season. I know lots of people harped over Tangs cuz he wouldn't shoot many times and try and dish it off, but if this makes Iggy shoot more then I'm all for it. Iggy has 247 shots this year compared to the 338 in his 50 goal year. He just needs to shoot more and stop passing.

Note: Check out Tang's TSN photo. Its hilarious

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I think Iginla needs to get out of being a perimeter player, he doesnt have the legs he use to but he needs to find his spots. Atleast he acknowledges, but that is what frustrates me most about this team, they say all the right things, but you dont see put in action on the ice. effort, effort, effort, notta

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We should bring back Tang's. Hes going to be dirt cheap next year.
I'd be all over that. I hope he would be willing to return with Keenan gone.

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Good article in the Globe and Mail by Eric Duhatschek.




You can tell just how frustrated he is, listening to his interview on the Fan 960 this afternoon. Hopefully he breaks out of his scoring drought tonight.

One thing you have to admire about the Captain is that this guy is never one to hide from the criticism, no matter how bad things look.
I hope you are right. He has been so incredibly frustrating to watch most of the year. For those bucks you have to be an integral part of (THE Captain after all) the team. That all said I respect him for coming clean in the press and that shows guts.

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I'd be all over that. I hope he would be willing to return with Keenan gone.
+1 to that, or any real first line left winger and maybe we can land Marleau. A line of Tanguay - MArleau - Iginla actually sounds like a number one line.

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And how many 1 goal games have we lost this season where we went 0% on the PP? Even if Cammy made a difference just by scoring one or two more goals on the PP, then we could be a few points higher in the standings....
But then we wouldn't have Bouwmeester. So how many one goal game could we actually be in with a worse defense? And how many game where it is 2-2, 1-1, that Cammy would make a defensive mistake and we would lose?

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But then we wouldn't have Bouwmeester. So how many one goal game could we actually be in with a worse defense? And how many game where it is 2-2, 1-1, that Cammy would make a defensive mistake and we would lose?
not sure why you keep saying Cammy vs JayB....Cammy was gone when Sutter traded for Jokinen...that was the wrong choice.

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Iginla should shoulder the blame. Look at his splits. He hasn't shown up against any of the top teams in the league with any consistency. Take away the bottom feeders and he doesn't crack 20 goals (16 goals against Anaheim, Dallas, Edmonton, Minnesota and Toronto). Iginla has turned into a one way hockey player who spends more time at the opposition blueline than the linesman. If he gets back to playing two-way hockey and playing with an edge the guy is a keeper. If he continues to play the floater and gets knocked down by guys like Wellwood its time to move him.

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The guy is this year's Kiprusoff: he becomes everyone's scapegoat to due to our team's failings.

Yep, no doubt about it.

And to be fair, he does deserve criticism for his play this year, can't deny he's had a pretty inconsistent year. However, there's no shortage of players on this team who have underachieved this year.

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Canuck fan come in peace --

I like Iginla as a player. Is it possible the Sutter "system" is simply placing too much on the shoulders of a great-but-clearly-aging player?

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Canuck fan come in peace --

I like Iginla as a player. Is it possible the Sutter "system" is simply placing too much on the shoulders of a great-but-clearly-aging player?
Yes. but i also consider that Iginla has a 7m price tag as well. He is being paid to be a superstar.

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I like Iginla as a player. Is it possible the Sutter "system" is simply placing too much on the shoulders of a great-but-clearly-aging player?
It's not just the system but the talent level around him. Iginla is the only legitimate first-line player on the club. The rest are 2nd, 3rd, and 4th liners.

In addition, the team doesn't have a true playmaker on the roster. Backlund could develop into one, but he needs more time. Stajan, Conroy, and Langkow are not playmakers (Conroy was once upon a time ago). When you're a sniper like Iginla, you need someone to give you the puck. Instead, Iginla is being asked to shoulder too much of the offensive burden.

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Thanks Iggy. You always say the right thing.

When it's all done, may be they can find you a seat on Parliament.

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Habs fan here. Camalleri has been amazing here. At least until he hurt his knee, he hasn't been very good in the seven or eight games since coming back. But overall he, along with Gionta, have been the snipers that Montreal hasn't had in ages. He might've been determined to test the market but I often wondered why Calgary didn't try harder to keep him.

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