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04-08-2010, 07:02 PM
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Oh? You mean asking him to leave even though WE gave him the no-trade clause?
Nice wording.

I perfer, giving him the chance to go to a contender to which he rejected for reasons of wanting to be with a team for a whole year, which he contradicted.

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04-08-2010, 07:05 PM
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Nice wording.

I perfer, giving him the chance to go to a contender to which he rejected for reasons of wanting to be with a team for a whole year, which he contradicted.
I agree. Just imagine what our team would look like now, if the "Muskoka 5" had lifted their NTC.

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04-08-2010, 07:10 PM
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It deserves to be retired, but Sittler didn't get his number retired, only honored.

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At least, Kubina, Tucker, McCabe, etc were forced out.

Sundin left on his own will.

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04-08-2010, 07:13 PM
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It deserves to be retired, but Sittler didn't get his number retired, only honored.
I didn't know that.... that's ridiculous

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04-08-2010, 07:23 PM
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If only we could get another player like him
I do too.

Before reading any of the other responses, I'd like to say I was really disgusted with the way some fans, media and Fletcher essentially insulted him during his final days here. You just don't do that to the face of your franchise.

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04-08-2010, 07:24 PM
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Why because we asked him to waive his no trade clause?

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04-08-2010, 07:27 PM
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Should be done next season. For someone who's that important to a franchise, he shouldn't have to wait any longer.

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04-08-2010, 07:30 PM
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Can someone ask me why, on earth fans get irritated because someone oh my god! decides not to lift their NTC/NTM?

If a player decides they don't want to be a rental, and was offered a no trade/movement clause in good faith - why do they HAVE to relinquish it and why do you HATE them if they choose not to? This really puzzles me. Like that's me signing a five year contract at my job, and then in the 4th year, my boss goes, "Well, you know, Lapi; there is this new, really great potential employee we'd like to get, but we don't have the budget to have you and HER, and even though you are amazing, do you mind leaving this job and take this other job in this other building with this different system and MAYBE you'll like it." And then everyone hates me because, I wisely say no and keep what I've got, and then when my contract is over decide to go somewhere else after WAITING and SEEING what my first company is doing and knowing that I'm simply not a part of the new system.

So. Please. Explain.

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Gilmour = infinitely greater on every conceivable level than Sundin.
Thus I miss Dougie.

Gilmour was the traitor.

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04-08-2010, 07:33 PM
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Thats a typical workplace scenerio, that player/person will for sure feel the hostile enviornment.

Before this continues, do you apply that same logic to Kaberle, McCabe, Kubina, Tucker, etc

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Why because we asked him to waive his no trade clause?

I'm asking you to stop being a Leaf fan and become a fan of another team for a shot at the cup.

How do you like me now?

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04-08-2010, 07:35 PM
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I think he will received his place in the ACC rafters. He was the best player for a long time and has certainly earned that spot as an all time Leaf. He was the best they had for a long time.

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04-08-2010, 07:40 PM
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I can't talk about Tucker & McCabe; because I wasn't following hockey at that time (I was living out of the country), and I don't recall Kubina being shipped around [or remember], so the only thing I can comment is Kaberle.

And really, no. Why does Kaberle HAVE to leave so the LEAFS/FANS can have Jeff Carter or whomever the first picks would have been? That's not Kaberle's job. His job is to play defense and play it well. [and quite frankly, he's been kinda lacking in that department, hence why I think ppl are irked]. I don't hate him for holding out if he doesn't like the team. Why should I?

What I personally hate is the no trade clause/no movement clause period. It leads to dull summers, and dull trade deadline days. People toss them out way too easy, and I think it's unnecessary. But I'm not going to be pissed with someone because they have the right to utalise a clause that they negotiated to have.

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Disgusting, and disrespectful.
but true ohh so true

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he said I want to retire a leaf, dose not want to be a rental player....retired as a Vancouver rental player.

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04-08-2010, 07:49 PM
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Put me down as another one who thinks Sundin's number should be honoured for his long-time contributions to the team. As others have pointed out, the Leafs seldom retire numbers (Barilko and Bailey are the only two Leafs who have had their numbers retired, as far as I remember and then there's the league-mandated retirement of Gretzky's #99).
but the leafs retired 99 in loving memory of wilf paiement

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you make it public knowledge that you're trying to trade Matts & with no takers because of the asking price,you offer him a contract extension & you expect him to take it ? if thats not a slap in the face, i don't know what is. leaf fan our not thats not right.

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04-08-2010, 08:08 PM
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his number should be the first leaf number to be retired.

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04-08-2010, 08:16 PM
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he will be, in about 5-10 years at least... maybe longer

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his number should be the first leaf number to be retired.
So they're going to reactivate #'s 5 & 6?

I really wish some Leafs 'fans' would learn just a tiny bit of team history.

Anyway, I didn't like how Sundin left the team. I think they should wait 13 years before honouring his number.

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he will be, in about 5-10 years at least... maybe longer
You mean when he's old and bald... Oh wait

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I'm asking you to stop being a Leaf fan and become a fan of another team for a shot at the cup.

How do you like me now?
you are a very angry person. i've taken a look back through your posts and you're like one giant troll.

well done.

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I wouldn't be surprised if the Leafs honour Sundin's number 13 next season.

And to be honest, I don't think the faction of the Leafs fan base that is upset with how Sundin left the team is as large as members of that faction may think.

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04-08-2010, 08:39 PM
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In my mind it is quite obvious that Mats' #13 will be honoured by the Leafs. No question.

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