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04-09-2010, 04:47 PM
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I don't think he did that great when you look back on it. His system ...wasn't even really a system. Plus the guy above you who reminded me of the horrors of the 4th line trying to score a goal for us at the end of the game. There's rewarding your role-players, then there's ignoring your scorers...
Aside from the last couple of months he did manage to win plenty of games that way...

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lmao, didnt he finish 1st? Had one of the best 1st half seasons in team history before the injuries and off ice issues?
You mean the season where Kovalev showed up, Plekanec had a breakout year, Streit exploded into a PP specialist no one realized he was and Andrei Kostitsyn for the first time in his career actually did something? Strange considering with virtually the precise same roster the following season we tanked to the extent the players had outright quit on Carbo.

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You mean you didn't think the Mike Johnson-Koivu-Streit line was a real winner?
Not has much as I loved Josh Gorges as a forward!

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I've always been a Carbo fan and I think he was the space-goat for last year. Too bad, life goes on. However, Martin has been disappointing me more than Carbo ever did - Carbo had 3/4ths the talent Martin has and he did MUCH more.
You are entitled to your opinion of course however I inquiry as to how Carbo was the scapegoat when he allowed Price to be embarrassed in his first hometown game in Vancouver. I can only imagine how Price felt through that game, seven goals. You then have Ryan O'Byrne who was played against the best players in the league and was repeatedly made to appear like a moron on skates when Datsyuk, Ovie, Crosby, Malkin, Staal, Spezza, Iginla and every other top tier player danced around him as though he was a pylon. Franzen absolutely humiliated him.

As for talent, I wonder. Both the previous team and the current have remarkable similarities. Consider Kovalev and Cammalleri can both average 80+ points, Gomez has completely regressed since New York and it a marginal upgrade on Koivu at present and Gionta have a superior game to Tanguay. Now factor in Carbo had Streit in his one good year here and Markov. Frankly in my opinion, both are garbage.

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04-09-2010, 11:38 PM
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he is terrible on hnic about as worse as cassie campbell

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I felt watching him coach like he didn't have any system. Maybe that's why the Habs played well and finished first 2 years ago as we had a lot europeans and he just let them play and they love that. Sort of like the Trashers when Kovalchuk was there. The type of team that can kill you when you play an open style but when the game is tight they self destruct as they can't cope with the checking and the little details.

It's funny now how we have supposed to have defense-first coach who's about discipline and the Habs are about as bad as when Carbo left.

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04-10-2010, 08:21 AM
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Damn man, I miss the days Carbo playing the 4th line with a minute left in the game down by a goal.

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I enjoy Carbo's commentary as well he's far more intelligent then some people gave him credit for.

now if they could remove Greg Millen from our broadcasts and send him back to leafs tv i'd be happy.
Bring back Harry Neil......MILLEN MUST GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Damn man, I miss the days Carbo playing the 4th line with a minute left in the game down by a goal.
You realize that the 3rd and 4th lines have been our best lately right ?.....I would trust them to hold a lead over our top two ANY DAY !

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I was pissed that Carbo was fired. I'm still angry... Carbo was doing a damn fine job until the player's off-ice ******** caught up to them. He was paid to coach, not babysit.
I AGREE. off the ice it was a freak show.Every player in the room was distracted.No team chemistry and Carbo paid the price because he didn`t have much to work with.....Bob was pressuring him to play Price when Halak was better (even then)......I`m just saying with no distractions and this years team I think Guy would do a fine job. You guys remember he was Jack Adam material right ? like two years in a row wasn`t it ?

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Listening to him speak was aweful for me, I found he was too slow, too late in response and just came across unenthusiastic.
Same. I thought he was smokin' a doobie or something.

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He should replace brunet

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Earlier in the year, I felt he was terrible. He said things of very little interest, and his analysis would consist of paraphrasing what happened on a particular play. (..."and there's Kostitsyn.. finds his open man in Markov... and Markov scores... Nice play by Markov...") He has gotten a little bit stronger as the season has wore on, but quite frankly, given his role with the Canadiens last year, I wish he offered more insight about the players and their tendencies. Pierre McGuire gives you so much insight on the players he coached in the early 90s, and even 15-20 years later, he talks about it in everyone of his broadcasts, even when none of his players from back then are featured in the game he is covering.

I hope Guy gets back into coaching somewhere else, because I felt that he was a good young coach. Hopefully after coaching in Montreal, he'll have the courage to stand for his convictions and become a decent coach as a result, elsewhere.

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