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04-10-2010, 09:56 PM
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If I was GM, I would continue overhauling the Blue, and getting some journeyman to allow our players to develop in the minors.
NHL Transactions:
  • Sheldon Souray, Riley Nash - Rangers 2nd, Ryan McDonagh
  • Ales Hemsky - Nikita Filatov, 6th Overall
  • 6th Overall, Andrew Cogliano, Rangers 2nd - 3rd / 4th Overall
  • Linus Omark, 2011 3rd - Braydon Coburn
  • Taylor Chorney, 2010 3rd - Drew Stafford
  • Conditional Pick, , Nashville 2nd. Jeff Deslauriers - Carey Price, Roman Hamrlik , Georges Laraque
    Conditions to Pick
    • 2nd 2012 if Price has fewer than 50 combined wins in 2010-2011 & 2011-2012 seasons
    • 1st 2012 if Price has greater than 50 combined wins in 2010-2011 & 2011-2012 Seasons. This pick comes with a top-10 out clause that would push the 1st round pick to 2013.
-----|- 2010 ENTRY DRAFT -|-----
  • 1st - Tyler Seguin
  • 3-4 - Brett Connolly
  • 31 - Evgeny Kuznetsov / Whoever Falls
-----|- 2010 FREE AGENCY -|-----
Restricted
  • Gilbert Brule - 4 years 8 Million
  • Sam Gagner - 4 years 12.8 Million
  • Braydon Coburn - 4 years 12.4 Million
  • Carey Price - 3 years 10 Million
  • Marc Pouliot - 1 year, 650k
  • J.F Jacques - 1 year, 650k
Unrestricted
  • Shaone Morrisonn - 2 years 4 Million
  • Chris Higgins - 2 years 2.4 Million
  • Fernando Pisani - 1 year 750k
Buy-Out, Waive, Demote
  • Patrick O'Sullivan
  • Ethan Moreau
  • Robert Nilsson
  • Zack Stortini
-----|- Line-Up -|-----
Penner - Gagner - Brule
Filatov - Seguin - Stafford
Higgins - Horcoff - Pisani
Jacques - Pouliot - Jones
Laraque

Whitney - Gilbert
Hamrlik - Smid
Morrisonn - Coburn
Strudwick / Johnson

Price
Khabibulin

Total Cap Space: 5.3 Million (W/ Buy outs)
[b]Total 2011-2012 Cap Space: 19.538 Million

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04-10-2010, 10:00 PM
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All proposed lineups include too many junior players. That means everybody wants Oilers to finish last next year.

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04-10-2010, 10:04 PM
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All proposed lineups include too many junior players. That means everybody wants Oilers to finish last next year.


I just read through the first few and most have around 2 rookie players...

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04-11-2010, 02:22 PM
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I don’t think that we will be able to sign any of the coveted FAs like Marleau, Armstrong, Hamhuis, Volchenkov, Michalek or Seidenberg (maybe Morisonn).
So I would rather act like e.g. PHX did last year and sign some solid 1b FAs, when the others still try to get the big ones.

Besides I think that we need to move out more smurfs than just POS, Comrie and Nilsson because that just evens up the addition of Hemsky, Eberle and Hall (185lbs).


Penner – Gagner – Hemsky
Hall – Eberle – X (Horton)

As all of these players (except Penner) are very small, so we need another big player, what closes the door for Brule and Cogliano.


Jones – Horcoff – X1 (Pyatt)
Pouliot – X2 (Halpern) – Stortini

I don’t Cogs and Brule here as well, because those two spots are easily fillable via free agency, so that it would be a waste of value to have Cogs and Brule there.
Besides we rather need a defensive player with a bit of size and neither Cogs nor Brule nor Potulny fill that need.

X1: Pyatt, Paille, Slater, ((Torres)), Higgins (if Jones goes to 4th and get one of the others)
X2: Halpern, M. Ellis, Petersen, Nichol


Whitney – Gilbert
Smid – X1 (Leopold)
Johnson – X2 (Skoula)

Souray is too old, injury prone and cap heavy.
Besides we should make a final cut after this horrible season. As his salary is lower than his cap hit a team like PHX, FLA, NYI might be interested.

X1: Leopold, Foster, Morris
X2: Jurcina, Skoula, Krajicek


Trades:
Brule + Cogliano (eventually + Nash + Potulny if necessary) for Horton
(I know that it looks like overpayment, but we need none of these players and FLA will not demand a low prize for him. If possible I would also include Souray for Allen in that deal)

Signings:
Gagner: 2 years for 2.5
Pyatt: 3 years for 1.5
Halpern: 1 year for 1.4
Leopold: 2 years for 2.0
Skoula: 1 year 1.0
Pisani: 1 year for 0.7
Pouliot: 2 years for 0.9
A. Giroux: 1 or 2 years 2way for 0.9 (roster depth and to help OKC)
Linglet: 1 year for 0.7 (roster depth and to help OKC)

Transactions:
Either trade or waive Moreau, O’Sullivan and Nilsson
Dubnyk to OKC
Keeping O’Mara, Stone and Peckham for OKC


PS: I would be happy about some feedbacks, as there are very few people in Germany, with whom you can talk about hockey or the Oilers.

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04-11-2010, 02:26 PM
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I don’t think that we will be able to sign any of the coveted FAs like Marleau, Armstrong, Hamhuis, Volchenkov, Michalek or Seidenberg (maybe Morisonn).
So I would rather act like e.g. PHX did last year and sign some solid 1b FAs, when the others still try to get the big ones.

Besides I think that we need to move out more smurfs than just POS, Comrie and Nilsson because that just evens up the addition of Hemsky, Eberle and Hall (185lbs).


Penner – Gagner – Hemsky
Hall – Eberle – X (Horton)

As all of these players (except Penner) are very small, so we need another big player, what closes the door for Brule and Cogliano.


Jones – Horcoff – X1 (Pyatt)
Pouliot – X2 (Halpern) – Stortini

I don’t Cogs and Brule here as well, because those two spots are easily fillable via free agency, so that it would be a waste of value to have Cogs and Brule there.
Besides we rather need a defensive player with a bit of size and neither Cogs nor Brule nor Potulny fill that need.

X1: Pyatt, Paille, Slater, ((Torres)), Higgins (if Jones goes to 4th and get one of the others)
X2: Halpern, M. Ellis, Petersen, Nichol


Whitney – Gilbert
Smid – X1 (Leopold)
Johnson – X2 (Skoula)

Souray is too old, injury prone and cap heavy.
Besides we should make a final cut after this horrible season. As his salary is lower than his cap hit a team like PHX, FLA, NYI might be interested.

X1: Leopold, Foster, Morris
X2: Jurcina, Skoula, Krajicek


Trades:
Brule + Cogliano (eventually + Nash + Potulny if necessary) for Horton
(I know that it looks like overpayment, but we need none of these players and FLA will not demand a low prize for him. If possible I would also include Souray for Allen in that deal)

Signings:
Gagner: 2 years for 2.5
Pyatt: 3 years for 1.5
Halpern: 1 year for 1.4
Leopold: 2 years for 2.0
Skoula: 1 year 1.0
Pisani: 1 year for 0.7
Pouliot: 2 years for 0.9
A. Giroux: 1 or 2 years 2way for 0.9 (roster depth and to help OKC)
Linglet: 1 year for 0.7 (roster depth and to help OKC)

Transactions:
Either trade or waive Moreau, O’Sullivan and Nilsson
Dubnyk to OKC
Keeping O’Mara, Stone and Peckham for OKC


PS: I would be happy about some feedbacks, as there are very few people in Germany, with whom you can talk about hockey or the Oilers.
If we could land Horton for Brule + Cogs that would be a pretty good summer in my books, though I think Brule and Cogs are going to be good players in this league too.

If you wanna talk Oilers, this is the place pretty much . Cool to see Oilers fans in Europe.

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04-11-2010, 02:45 PM
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I'm glad most of you guys aren't the gm of the oilers.

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If we could land Horton for Brule + Cogs that would be a pretty good summer in my books, though I think Brule and Cogs are going to be good players in this league too.

If you wanna talk Oilers, this is the place pretty much . Cool to see Oilers fans in Europe.
Yes. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one even interested in the NHL. Allthough we have a first league hockey team in our town as well.

But back to topic: I would be absolutely thrilled to get Horton, but many fans here seem to dislike him a lot. They rather vote for lines like Hall - Eberle - Cogliano/Brule.
IMO opinion this would be crucial and you could collect Eberle's and Hall's individual parts after a few games. They would get crushed.

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04-11-2010, 03:00 PM
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Oilers fans here have wanted Horton for quite some time ... it's just a matter of how we'd get him.

Then again, fans here wanted Jokinen and Bouweemester for a long time too.

I do like the idea of going after Taylor Pyatt.

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He could be our next Moreau and Jones our next Pisani (the good versions of course).

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04-11-2010, 09:27 PM
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Draft Taylor Hall
Sign Matthew Lombardi
Trade Cogliano, Nash, and 2nd round pick to FLA for Nathan Horton
Keep Pisani for cheap $ and somehow get rid of Moreau, POS, Nilsson for picks
Sign Johnson and another depth UFA defenseman (e.g. Seidenberg)

Penner Gagner Hemsky
Hall Lombardi Horton
Brule Horcoff Pisani
Jones/JFJ Pouliot Stortini

Whitney Gilbert
Souray Smid
Johnson/Peckham Seidenberg

Khabi
JDD

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Draft Taylor Hall
Sign Matthew Lombardi
Trade Cogliano, Nash, and 2nd round pick to FLA for Nathan Horton
Don't re-sign Pisani but re-sign Comrie instead.
Sign Johnson and another depth UFA defenseman (e.g. Seidenberg)

Penner Gagner Hemsky
Hall Lombardi Horton
Brule Horcoff Pisani
Jones/JFJ Pouliot Stortini

Whitney Gilbert
Souray Smid
Johnson/Peckham Seidenberg

Khabi
JDD
Fixed. Do not trade second round pick. Rebuilding teams DO NOT TRADE DRAFT PICKS.

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Fixed. Do not trade second round pick. Rebuilding teams DO NOT TRADE DRAFT PICKS.
I'd rather keep Pisani at near league minimum wage. Comrie wouldn't fit on that 3rd line anyway.

As for the 2nd round pick, you trade it if it gets you a player you covet, such as Horton in this case, especially when you've got an extra one.

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I'd rather keep Pisani at near league minimum wage. Comrie wouldn't fit on that 3rd line anyway.

As for the 2nd round pick, you trade it if it gets you a player you covet, such as Horton in this case, especially when you've got an extra one.
I don't want Pisani back. Do you really think Pisani would accept league minimum. I don't think he'd accept league minimum.

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I don't want Pisani back. Do you really think Pisani would accept league minimum. I don't think he'd accept league minimum.
OK then.

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Okay, I'll bite.

Sam Gagner: 4 years, 2.75 million per
Gilbert Brule: 2 years, 2 million per
Andrew Cogliano: 2 years, 1.5 million per
Marc Pouliot: 1 year, 1.1 million
Ryan Potulny: 1 year, 1.1 million
Aaron Johnson: 2 years, 1.2 million per
Jeff Delauriers: 1 year, 1.25 million

Pisani: Walk away
Comrie: Walk away
Strudwick: Walk Away
JFJ: Do Not Qualify
Stone: Do Not Qualify

Linglet, Minard, Wiseman, Paukovich, Fretter McDonald, Hisey, Dubnyk, Arsene: two-way contracts for >$1 million or AHL contracts.

Cornet: Entry Level Contract

Moreau: Buyout
O'Sullivan: Buyout
Nilsson: Buyout

Draft: Taylor Hall - $3.6 million dollar cap-hit on 3 year ELC

Sign Alex Tanguay: 2 year, 2.3 million per
Sign Mike Grier: 1 year, $1.2 million
Sign Randy Jones: 3 year, 1.8 million per

Hall - Gagner - Hemsky
Penner - Cogliano - Brule
Tanguay - Horcoff - Grier
Potulny - Pouliot - Jones
Stortini

Whitney - Gilbert
Souray - Smid
Jones - Johnson

Khabibulin
Delauriers

Cap Number (with buyouts): ~$54.59 million


Oklahoma City Team:

Minard - Wiseman - Eberle
Omark - Hisey - Fretter
Cornet - Vande Velde - McDonald
Paukovich - Kytnar - Riley

Peckham - Arsene
Petry - Chorney
Plante - Motin
Armstrong

Dubnyk
Pitton

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Well, now that the season's over, and I'm already bored, I'll bite on this thread.

Signings:

Gagner: 5-6 years, $3-3.5 million per season.
Comrie: 2 years, $1.5-2 million per season
Cogiano: 3 years, $1.5-1.8 million per season.
Brule: 3 years, $1-1.5 million per season.
Potulny: 2 years, $1 million per season.
Pouliot: 2 years, $1 million per season.
Dubnyk: 2 years, $950k per season.
Johnson: 2 years, $800k per season.
Peckham: 2 years, $800k per season.
Strudwick: 1 year, $650k.
Pisani: 1 year, $650k.
Arsene: 2 years, $575k per season.

Trades:

(To MTL) Souray + O'Sullivan + JDD + Edm 3rd 2010 <--> Price + Hamrlik + Laraque
(To FLA) Nilsson <--> FLA 4th 2010
(To DAL) Moreau <--> DAL 4th 2010
(To TBL) Khabibulin + Chorney + Stone <--> Mike Smith

Lineup heading into next season:

Penner - Gagner - Hemsky
Hall/Seguin - Cogliano - Comrie
Potulny - Horcoff - Brule
Jones - Pouliot - Stortini
Laraque/Pisani

Whitney - Gilbert
Smid - Hamrlik
Johnson - Peckham
Strudwick

Price
Mike Smith

Total salary cap (using highest estimates of all above signings): $56.825 million.

Reasons:

I took bad Laraque and Hamrlik contracts to get Price out of Montreal. I think they might bite to upgrade Hamrlik to Souray, as well as get a quality backup like JDD (he's not a starter yet, but has proven he can steal games.) They have tons of aging players as well, like Lang, Koivu, and Kovalev. I think they'd be interested in O'Sullivan, as well.

I traded Nilsson and Moreau for picks. I think Florida would take Nilsson. They have a few aging vets up front they will need to replace soon, but have their self-imposed budget, so they can't exactly take superstars. I feel Nilsson would play a lot better in the East, anyway. Hopefully, they agree. Dallas also is in the same boat, with guys like Modano and Lehtinen getting up there in age. Moreau isn't a spring chicken himself, but I say he's worth a 4th rounder because his recent play to end the season has been good. If not, I'll take a 5th. Regardless, I think Moreau could be the type of player Dallas is looking for.

Khabibulin was the hard one. There's only one team in the league I think would even consider taking Khabi, and that's Tampa Bay. They don't have a legit starting goaltender, but they have a good team that could challenge for the cup, other than that. Do they take a chance on Khabi? I don't know, but they might if we are taking a contract back. Mike Smith isn't a bad goalie, but he is terribly inconsistent. One game he's the star, the next he lets in 3 goals on 7 shots. He's not their goaltender answer. Nittymaki might be, though, in which case they might not be so interested in Khabi. I tried to sweeten the deal with the only other roster players I had left to deal (Stone and Chorney) but if they want a decent prospect like Riley Nash, I'd probably give him up to get rid of Khabi at this point. Especially if the trade for Price was done already.

The defense still looks brutal, but after one more year Hamrlik is gone and we can use some of his money to chase a $3-4 million guy. And, don't forget, we have Petry likely coming up to the NHL club in a couple of years as well. Petry could easily be a 2nd pairing guy in ~3 years, so all we would really need is a cheap 3rd pairing defenseman, that we could sign off of free agency without much difficulty. Or Peckham could step up and become a consistent roster player.

Lastly, I'm not even going to try to justify my Gagner signing. The issue is a thread in itself, but I'll just say that I feel signing him long-term is in the best interests of the club, and you won't get Gagner for more than 2-3 years unless you are willing to pay him over $3 million per season.

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-Draft Hall
-Trade Souray and NSH 2nd for a 1st and a bad contract
-waive/buyout the bad contract
-Trade Moreau for anything
-Trade Nilsson for a 3rd
-Trade O'Sullivan to STL for DJ King and a 3rd
-Trade Riley Nash and a 3rd (via Nilsson/Sully deal) for Byfuglien
-Sign Andy Sutton
-Re-sign Gagner, Cogliano, Johnson, Potulny, Peckham, Dubnyk, Brule and other prospects

Lineup:
Penner - Gagner - Hemsky
Hall - Cogliano - Byfuglien
Brule - Horcoff - Eberle
Jones - Potulny - Stortini
King

Whitney - Gilbert
Sutton - Smid
Peckham - Johnson

Khabibulin
Dubnyk

Tough team to play against with 7 million in cap still.

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-Trade Souray and NSH 2nd for a 1st and a bad contract
Who is going to do that?

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