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04-11-2010, 01:21 AM
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Guys like this are rare to get, but I would love to get Horton.

Can you imagine having Horton and Phaneuf being our leaders.

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I'd rather keep Grabovski... and that's saying something.
A healthy Bergeron (that's a big if) is twice the man (literally) of Grabovski.

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Hes an all-around great player. He would have more of an offensive role with us as well.

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Patrice Bergeron is the heart and soul of Boston.

They're not letting him walk. That's just my personal opinion.

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Imo we (burke) has two major options this summer...cheaper forwards or expensive forwards...

The cheaper forwards, i am talking about fowards that are young ang have good potential to be great. A few guys i think we could try to pull out of teams at a cheaper price would be:

Kyle Turris
Kyle Okposo
Dustin Byfuglien
Kris Vertsteeg
Zach Boychuck
Carter Ashton
Mason Raymond
I stopped reading at Okposo. The Isles are SUPER-HIGH on him. I mean, in only his 2nd season they gave him an A. Don't know about you, but not an indication he's available at this point...

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04-11-2010, 01:29 AM
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I don't know if they can afford to pay him the price he will be asking especially when they need to address their scoring woes.

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I'm kind of tired of seeing the regular names thrown around, so I'm going to suggest a few others as potentially interesting forwards I haven't seen a lot of in discussions:

Tuomo Ruutu
Mikko Koivu
Brad Richards
Tomas Fleischmann
Alexander Semin
Nikolai Zherdev
Alexander Radulov
Gilbert Brule
Joe Thornton (if San Jose chokes again)
Martin Havlat
That's the guy i'd take a run at.

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04-11-2010, 02:58 AM
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A healthy Bergeron (that's a big if) is twice the man (literally) of Grabovski.
Not really a big if. Besides that major hit-from-behind turned Grade Three career-threatening injury and related symptoms, he's been pretty healthy. No way Boston lets him walk, especially with the great season he's putting in for the B's. If this were fantasy, I would love to have him on my team though. How anyone could want Grabovski over Bergeron is absurd.

Some of the players mentioned have been pretty unrealistic (or incredibly unrealistic) but some players mentioned might be a good fit and affordable, affordable being of much higher value.

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04-11-2010, 03:34 AM
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I would just make room on the team for Kadri/Stalberg/Dale Mitchell as my third line,and clear out some salary on defense by trading all 3 of(if possible)beauchemin,Kaberle,and komisarek,

I would sign Colaiacavo back,and add some presence with Andy Sutton.

Burke needs to add scoring by way of spending money,but also from trading defense mentioned above,and most importantly by adding our best prospects in the right role for their developement He would have to hold back money also for cushion.

Lots of options. Marleau is the guy you go for imo. I like Frolov,and think his best years are ahead of him.

In short: Burke needs to dump more salary in order re-distribute it in to the top six.

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04-11-2010, 03:39 AM
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Staal imo is more possible than Statsny. And although Jumbo Jo is great....id rather have young players who we could build a franchise around not a superskilled player who we will have to replace as soon as our other guys are getting really good.
absolutely.
would love to see staal spearheading our first line for years to come.
then bring over marc and eric and... sorry, im gettin ahead of myself

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04-11-2010, 12:23 PM
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absolutely.
would love to see staal spearheading our first line for years to come.
then bring over marc and eric and... sorry, im gettin ahead of myself
lol a litttle crazy haha but i think Jordan Staal could be the answers to our problems. If we could sign marleau and get Jordan staal our top 6 is sweet.

Marleau Staal Kadri
Kessel Bozak Kulimen

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really Toronto never has problems with scoring...
we could have a team of enforcers and we could average 3 goals a night.
we should work on some more rookies still in euro or in college.

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Phoenix has a bunch of youngsters that have either underperformed in the minors or just haven't got the proper development.

Guys like Kyle Turris, Martin Hanzal, Mikkel Boedker come to mind.

Boedker would be an interesting guy to target. He has all the tools.

Would Phoenix be interested in Kaberle, though?

They have Zbynek Michalek who is a free agent at the end of the year and would surely be looking for a raise. I'm not sure what their stance is on having a PP QB when they already have guys like Jovo, Aucoin and Yandle.

Can't seem to figure out that team's needs.

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I think the only legitimate targets are Horton and Sharp. Sharp will definitely become a cap casualty. While Horton seems as though he's had his ups and downs with Florida and might be ready for a change.

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I think the only legitimate targets are Horton and Sharp. Sharp will definitely become a cap casualty. While Horton seems as though he's had his ups and downs with Florida and might be ready for a change.
This. No offense but there are a lot of dreamers in this thread.

Even if the Pens were going to part with Staal, we have absolutely nothing worth offering them, at least nothing another team couldn't match or exceed. This argument can be made for most of the players listed actually.

I think Sharp can be attained through a salary dump type of deal, but we'd still have to send legitimate assets in return, and Johnny Mitchell doesn't count as an asset.

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04-11-2010, 03:40 PM
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Horton is leaving Florida. The writing is on the wall. He's struggled, he's frustrated, and he doesn't really like the coaches:

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With a disappointing season winding down, tempers boiled over Tuesday at the Florida Panthers' pre-game skate when forward Nathan Horton got into a heated exchange with assistant coach Mike Kitchen.

The two sides had to be separated by head coach Peter DeBoer. Horton then smashed his stick against the boards before leaving the ice.

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04-11-2010, 03:47 PM
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Yeah so what? Leafs don't want him. He's always had attitude problems. The coaches have a problem with him too because he gives like a 10% effort when playing. I don't care how skilled he is, I'd prefer a guy that gives it all when playing like Callahan.

I believed that happened a few weeks ago.

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I don't know what to think about Horton. He seems like he's got a good set of skills and he's a huge mother****er. But would he come in and slack off?

I think depending on what the asking price was, I'd take a chance. He could turn out like Mueller or Lantendresse.

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What could Toronto offer for Raymond?

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What could Toronto offer for Raymond?
We're not looking to trade assets for him.

He's had a bounce back season but he's not really what this team needs, ideally.

A guy like James Neal would be perfect, but I'm not sure if Nieuwy is going to let him go for Kaberle.

They've got Scott Glennie coming up in the system who's projected to be a PF type. They've got a lot of money tied up in Ribeiro, Richards and Eriksson. He might look to trade Richards first, which is surprising considering the great season he just had.

James Neal - Tyler Bozak - Phil Kessel

Now this would be a very very good first line for us. You've got your PF on the left, a good distributor at C and a pure sniper on the other wing.

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Imo we (burke) has two major options this summer...cheaper forwards or expensive forwards...

The cheaper forwards, i am talking about fowards that are young ang have good potential to be great. A few guys i think we could try to pull out of teams at a cheaper price would be:

Kyle Turris
Kyle Okposo
Dustin Byfuglien
Kris Vertsteeg
Zach Boychuck
Carter Ashton
Mason Raymond

Personally i think that if we could pull two of the forwards on to our team next year i would be extatic...particularely kyle turris...change of scenary would do great things for him imo. These fowards could probably be got with some prospects and late picks for them.


Now there are some more expensive fowards that could be availible we could try to get, these would all have an immeadiete impact and could be great but could cost the more important peices to this team (what team? )

Bobby Ryan
James Van Reimsdyk
Patrice Bergeron
Brad Richards
Brayden Schenn
Mikko Koivu
Jordan Staal
Nathan Horton
James Neal
Paul Statsny
Jeff Carter

All of these players would cost us a large package that obviously would include our biggest trading chip in Kaberle and possibly Schenn. All great players but costly. Personally I would give up almost anything to get MIKE richards....but he wont leave, his contract is amazing.

If we could get Kyle turris, JVR and Byf, I would say we have a great core to build around....anyone agree? anyone think im not insane?....probably not

Bottom line is if you get some of the cheaper players they still may very well cost you alot. With a team that has very very little assets such as us...excited to see what buke can pull off.
Aside from the Hawks players, I don't think any of the players you mentioned are available.

I am curious to see why you think the likes of Koivu, Stastny, Staal are available?

You're either picking a teams best player or their best young player. Like I mentioned before, none of these are players with the only exception being the Hawks players.

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What could Toronto offer for Raymond?
Tomas Kaberle

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Phoenix has a bunch of youngsters that have either underperformed in the minors or just haven't got the proper development.

Guys like Kyle Turris, Martin Hanzal, Mikkel Boedker come to mind.

Boedker would be an interesting guy to target. He has all the tools.

Would Phoenix be interested in Kaberle, though?

They have Zbynek Michalek who is a free agent at the end of the year and would surely be looking for a raise. I'm not sure what their stance is on having a PP QB when they already have guys like Jovo, Aucoin and Yandle.

Can't seem to figure out that team's needs.
1. PHO likely won't add Kabby's salary
2. Boedker is 20 years old, he isn't moving anywhere
3. Turris has too much potential to give up on right now
3. Hanzal plays a certain role with the Yotes

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It would be nice for Brian Burke to acquire a young playmaking or scoring center with lots of potential for the first line. However, the chances of this happening are very slim, unless Burke can find a team that is desperate to win the Stanley Cup next year and mortgage the future for this potential. This in most likelihood will not happen. Therefore, the only other possible option would be possible salary cap, or internal team cap casualties for other teams to cast off their players. The thought of some of these offense players would not be good for the Leafs, but I am going to list what most likely will be available this summer for possible trade.

The players listed below are based on highest cap hit to lowest cap hit that could possibly be available due to another teams need to unload the listed player. Some of these players could be moved due to cap restrictions or multiple RFA signings this year or next. Here are some candidates that Leafs fans will either love, or hate with a possible trade for the following players:

Center:

Brad Richards – $7.8 million (1 year remaining)
Scott Gomez - $7.357 (4 years remaining)
Chris Drury - $7.05 million (2 years remaining)
Shawn Horcoff - $5.5 million (5 years remaining)
Mike Ribeiro – $5 million (3 years remaining)
Patrice Bergeron - $4.75 million (1 year remaining)
Daymond Langkow - $4.5 million (2 years remaining)

Left Wing:

Simon Gagne - $5.25 million (1 year remaining)
Ryan Malone - $4.5 million (5 years remaining)
Joffrey Lupul - $4.25 million (3 years remaining)
Scott Hartnell - $4.2 million (3 years remaining)
Ryane Clowe - $3.63 million (3 years remaining)
Patrick Sharp – $3.9 million (2 years remaining)
Marco Sturm - $3.5 million (1 year remaining)
Kris Versteeg - $3.08 million (2 years remaining)
Ethan Moreau - $2 million (1 year remaining)

Right Wing:

Daniel Briere - $6.5 million (5 years remaining)
Alexander Semin - $6 million (1 year remaining)
Michael Ryder - $4 million (1 year remaining)
Dustin Byfuglien - $3 million (1 year remaining)


The players above would be more realistic to be moved before any of the younger RFA players on other team’s rosters that need to be signed. The selections are slim pickings, but this is what Brian Burke most likely has to work with, unless some team really wants a young player off the team to make a dramatic move or shake up of the roster. These are few and far between scenarios for shake up roster moves, but Burke will have to be patient just like the Phanuef trade.


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Tomas Kaberle
That does sound nice.

Although, Raymond really is legit.

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