I joined this a few days ago after reading this thread (VI.695 AFC Everton if anyone cares). The team I was assigned to finished third but was aging so I now field a team of 9 17 year olds in the starting 11. Never played this so I don't know what affect experience has but I'm figuring on a tough year even though ratings wise I may actually be better. Any suggestions for someone just starting up?
When does the Cup and series start back up?
Hi and welcome in the game
The goal is to train your kids and add some veterans on the other spots.
You can only train 1 skill each week : GK, defense, midfield, winger, scoring, passing (and set-pieces but it's not a good training at first).
So 17y old in a line ok, but 9 in the starting 11 isn't a good way to begin because you can't train everyone.
Only players in a training position will take some skill each week.
1st thing, you'll need a good trainer. Leadership doesn't matter, so take a passable coach.
2nd thing, figure out what training you like :
-defense is slow but you can train 10 kids (playing 5-4-1, 5-3-2...) each week (5 in league, 5 in friendly).
-winger is the fastest but only 4 (2x2) are trained, and 4 others as DW will progress 50%.
-midfield, it's 3 IM and 2 wingers each game
-scoring, 3 strikers each game
Everyone I signed is either passable or solid at their position, TSI between 400-700. This is basically as good or better than the players they replaced. I am training for defense and I was under the impression that even if they play another position they will still gain some defense skill. The 17 yo are all defense and midfield, strikers are older.
One question I did have is what % I should do for Stamina training and Training Level. I have no idea what those should really be. Thanks for the help.
Everyone I signed is either passable or solid at their position, TSI between 400-700. This is basically as good or better than the players they replaced. I am training for defense and I was under the impression that even if they play another position they will still gain some defense skill. The 17 yo are all defense and midfield, strikers are older.
One question I did have is what % I should do for Stamina training and Training Level. I have no idea what those should really be. Thanks for the help.
They will get a very, very small amount of D training if they play somewhere other than the back 5. It's not something you should plan training around. You need to find midfielders that can keep the ball, just like in real life .
So if you've got 10 17 year olds, play half of them in your league matches and the other half in your friendlies. That way they all get the full effect of defense training. Just make sure you always use 2 wing backs and 3 central defenders; a combo of 4 CDs will cause you to lose training.
You'll need a solid coach sooner than later, but until you can save up the cash, a passable trainer will be alright.
Personally, I train stamina at 12%. It gives a good balance of training to the kids and keeps the older players around passable. If you want the full training effect possible to go to the kiddies, you can train it at 5%. That is a sacrifice for the rest of the team though, since their stamina won't be good. The max you'd want to use is 15%, but that's often too much. Our general consensus was between 10-12% is ideal. And always train at 100%. Always. There is no reason not to.
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Should I just not schedule a friendly for next week and wait, or schedule a friendly, or what? Not really sure what the hell is going on between all of the updates HT has put out regarding scheduling, rescheduling, etc of the matches.
Should I just not schedule a friendly for next week and wait, or schedule a friendly, or what? Not really sure what the hell is going on between all of the updates HT has put out regarding scheduling, rescheduling, etc of the matches.
Don't schedule one. The problems they were having with Cup draws were mostly in Europe since they are ahead of us on the HT time list.
Once friendlies are all finished after tonight's games, the Cup draw for the US should happen soon after.
I drew a bot in the first round of the cup, so essentially I have a buy into the second round. Anyone else with similar luck?
Not a bot, but nearly. A team created 1 month ago, playing 3-4-3 without youngsters, weak trainer, no friendlies... 95-100 hat stats at best. I'm thinking about a PM training for several kids from my academy who are inadequate PM...
I drew a bot in the first round of the cup, so essentially I have a buy into the second round. Anyone else with similar luck?
Got a bot as well, though it was like a double bonus because it's got a 1700+ fanclub and a 36,000 seat arena, so I might actually make some money, lol.
Speaking of that, I drew a record friendly crowd for my match with a recently promoted Ghanaian Premier League team. 6,738 fans, made over $33K. Was more than happy with that, plus the flag as well .
So I guess anyone who had a qualifier will not get training for it because of the merger the HTs are doing...
I feel terrible for those who had one, but lucky that I did not.
Also, this is just another level of amateurism in HT that bothers me. They could focus on fixing things that are broken, like the chat on HT-Live that hasn't worked since I joined the game. Instead they focus on "fixing" the match engine, which really didn't have anything wrong with it, and in the process they've essentially killed what was once the most dominating player in HT.
I don't get these people sometimes.
There's a thread on Global in HT that has people ripping the HTs to shreds...decent comedy.
Safe to say I likely won't be renewing my subscription to supporter after this mess. It's not necessarily the training lost but more WHO on my team the training was lost on. This is a huge setback for me not just for this season but for next season and going forward. Moves I had planned to make to prepare my team in week one will have to be pushed back and the possible U-20 winger I have is prettymuch out of the running now. Considering the team that I am playing in week 1 is my biggest rival for a spot in the top 4 this season, well, safe to say I should have plenty reason to be mad. I'm honestly mad that I had already purchased another year of supporter before this happened.
Safe to say I likely won't be renewing my subscription to supporter after this mess. It's not necessarily the training lost but more WHO on my team the training was lost on. This is a huge setback for me not just for this season but for next season and going forward. Moves I had planned to make to prepare my team in week one will have to be pushed back and the possible U-20 winger I have is prettymuch out of the running now. Considering the team that I am playing in week 1 is my biggest rival for a spot in the top 4 this season, well, safe to say I should have plenty reason to be mad. I'm honestly mad that I had already purchased another year of supporter before this happened.
They are going to have to come up with something huge to compensate people who've lost training and form due to this debacle.
Most people would have and should have played their first team in the qualifiers as well, since you obviously want to win. So you're exactly right, not only is the training lost, but it's lost on First XI players as well.
The only benefit I can see coming from this is that they will finally allow us to book friendlies on open dates in the off-season, as they should have long ago.
They should still do something for the people that lost their training though. Maybe it's simplistic, but I don't understand why they can just give training to these players outside of the scope of matches. It's the least they could do.
On the other hand doing something like that may cause even more problems, which is the last thing HT needs right now. It's such a cluster**** that it's painful.
My thought is the best thing they can do is double the training on the first round of cup games. That's about the only thing I can think of that could work to neutralize the situation. And I'm not too terribly sure the new engine will like it that much. With as much as has crashed due to it already I doubt they're willing to hack away at it and hope for the best, even if they just pissed off tens of thousands of managers by doing the ME transfer when they did causing training to be lost.
Edit: according to HT-Anne, they're thinking about re-running the training. All I can say to that is thank god. What a mess this has whole been.
wing skill pop of massive epicness:
Narsutis Znaidauskas (SP specialist) from inadequate to passable.
Quim Matllo (wing back) from inadequate to passable.
Guy Johnson (winger) from magnificent to world class.
Robert Williamson (winger) from magnificent to world class.
Joris Peirtsegaele (wing back) from inadequate to passable.
so essentially half my trainees, and my SP guy just for good measure even though I've never played him at wing.
I'm glad that it seems they mostly got the training sorted out. I know I got my training as normal, so that's good. But to me this really just highlights their woeful inadequacy at testing. To my knowledge all they really have is Stage, which is just an alternative interface to the live game. That might be okay for testing interface tweaks -- although they didn't even test the new match orders system there, bizarrely enough -- but it's useless for testing things like the new engine and cup matchups.
What they need is a small test server running a completely separate game world, and maybe a few hundred player volunteers who can be very active there testing things. This is a pretty standard thing to do in software development and I really hope that the lesson they learn out of all of this is they need to do it too.
I'm at a little bit of an impasse. My cup matchup opponent usually rolls out a 3-4-3. His offense/defense ratings are clearly superior, but his midfield ratings are generally around poor(high), where as mine should be around weak(low). I could MOTS and get those ratings to around weak(high or very high) depending on how I set my team up, which might give me a shot of dominating possession enough to give my team a shot.
The only drawback that I can see is that if I do that my TS will be poor, which I believe will affect my ratings next game. I tried to look through the forums to see how they schedule the league games, and if I'm understanding it correctly my first league game is going to be against the best team (my only competition this year) in my series.
So I pretty much cant decide whether or not to MOTS the cup match and maybe give myself a slim chance of winning, or just playing it normal so that my team spirit ratings are fine for really my only important league match of the first 7 games. Anybody have any thoughts?
is your league schedule up yet? I'm trying to figure out who you'll play in your first match this season. If you do get a human opponent in your first game in your series then I would say use a normal in this game. If you get a bot then by all means MOTS, because even against a bot your lineup should be able to stomp them with a PIC.
is your league schedule up yet? I'm trying to figure out who you'll play in your first match this season. If you do get a human opponent in your first game in your series then I would say use a normal in this game. If you get a bot then by all means MOTS, because even against a bot your lineup should be able to stomp them with a PIC.
League matchups aren't up yet but I read in a sticky in the USA forum that the schedule is as follows:
Schedule for the season:
match 1: 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, 7-8
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Currently my team is number 2 and the only team that could be competitive with mine (managed by a human) is number 1.
The league matches should be scheduled by thursday anyway so I guess I'll see for sure.
League matchups aren't up yet but I read in a sticky in the USA forum that the schedule is as follows:
Schedule for the season:
match 1: 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, 7-8
...
Currently my team is number 2 and the only team that could be competitive with mine (managed by a human) is number 1.
The league matches should be scheduled by thursday anyway so I guess I'll see for sure.
You're right. If you finished 2nd, you'll be playing the 1st place team at his place in the first league match. While I am a big fan of trying to stay in the cup as long as possible, I think if I were in your situation I would probably PIC the cup match and strongly consider MOTSing the league match. That of course assumes that you think you have a chance of winning the league match, and that the next few matches you play after that in the league will be easy wins even with low TS. The reason I'd do this is that you could very well MOTS and still lose that cup match, and even if you win, the reality is you will almost certainly be out the next week anyway. While cup matches are great for the extra money and the nice experience, it's just one match in your case, whereas going into the league match with bad TS could wreck your entire season.
You're right. If you finished 2nd, you'll be playing the 1st place team at his place in the first league match. While I am a big fan of trying to stay in the cup as long as possible, I think if I were in your situation I would probably PIC the cup match and strongly consider MOTSing the league match. That of course assumes that you think you have a chance of winning the league match, and that the next few matches you play after that in the league will be easy wins even with low TS. The reason I'd do this is that you could very well MOTS and still lose that cup match, and even if you win, the reality is you will almost certainly be out the next week anyway. While cup matches are great for the extra money and the nice experience, it's just one match in your case, whereas going into the league match with bad TS could wreck your entire season.
How much of a difference would it make if I just play normal instead of PIC for the cup match and then MOTS the following match?
Every other person I play in my series is either a bot or a human who hasn't logged in in forever, so regardless of TS I should win those matches easily. The #1 in my series shouldn't pose to much of a problem either, although I guess we'll see how it goes with the new match engine.
How much of a difference would it make if I just play normal instead of PIC for the cup match and then MOTS the following match?
Every other person I play in my series is either a bot or a human who hasn't logged in in forever, so regardless of TS I should win those matches easily. The #1 in my series shouldn't pose to much of a problem either, although I guess we'll see how it goes with the new match engine.
With poor leadership it wouldn't be a huge difference, but since the cup is only a few days before your league match it wouldn't have time to fall as far as it would from league match to league match. On the other hand, since the boost from PICing is percentage based, the first PIC isn't as big of a boost as it is if you PIC with TS already above the default. A PIN then MOTS in the cup/league seems like a pretty reasonable option too.
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