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04-13-2010, 03:10 PM
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No thank you. Unless you are paying for Souray's contract.

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No, Boll is an RFA, if you really would rather have him than Stralman (who would be available if we were getting Souray) fine with us, but no way management takes on both of those contracts with only Commodore going back.

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I have no idea why some of you want to add Souray and his contract. You guys being frustrated from supporting the Jackets for ten years I can understand, but IMO Souray is no way the answer.

He would probably upgrade the PP marginally, but a player with a $5.4 million cap hit has to bring more than a big shot. And it is not like the PP sucked big time this season. He is also very injury prone, and the Blue Jackets don't need another injured big salary d-man sitting in the press box. I might be wrong here, but he also seems to be kind of a dick.

IMO the Jackets will be better of with Tyutin, Russel, Strålman for now. Their salary combined is equal to Souray's, and I'm sure they all will contribute as much as he would sooner rather than later. And Moore is in the ranks.
IMO you could see vast improvement on both Russell and Strålman last season and I would like to see them paired together on that first PP next season.

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04-13-2010, 04:44 PM
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I have no idea why some of you want to add Souray and his contract. You guys being frustrated from supporting the Jackets for ten years I can understand, but IMO Souray is no way the answer.

He would probably upgrade the PP marginally, but a player with a $5.4 million cap hit has to bring more than a big shot. And it is not like the PP sucked big time this season. He is also very injury prone, and the Blue Jackets don't need another injured big salary d-man sitting in the press box. I might be wrong here, but he also seems to be kind of a dick.

IMO the Jackets will be better of with Tyutin, Russel, Strålman for now. Their salary combined is equal to Souray's, and I'm sure they all will contribute as much as he would sooner rather than later. And Moore is in the ranks.
IMO you could see vast improvement on both Russell and Strålman last season and I would like to see them paired together on that first PP next season.
He does.

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He does.
Care to elaborate?

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This was posted in the Prospects thread.

The Swedish newspaper Expressen is reporting Columbus is looking to sign Martin Thörnberg.

http://hockey.expressen.se/elitserie...l-ha-thornberg

It says Columbus wants to sign him, but he was one more year on his contract with HV71, who is in the SEL finals and isn't going to consider signing with Columbus until after the season is over. He's hoping to get a one-way contract.

Thörnberg is a power forward who's plays a pretty good all around game. He's 26, so he's not a prospect. But he's scored 20+ goals his last 3 seasons in Elitserien.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=2058

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04-13-2010, 05:35 PM
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Translated http://translate.google.com/translat...rg&sl=sv&tl=en

some interesting quotes in there...

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Since there was no NHL contract and I had a contract with HV was not possible to take a step to the NHL game. Well, if I bought myself out, "says Thorn Mountains.
I'm assuming he's talking about Columbus buying out his HV71 contract. Would a budget team do that?

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- Of course the NHL game attracts. Is it a chance and not take it, I certainly regret some day, "says Thorn Mountains.
He hopes to write a envägskontrakt which means Martin will have the same salary even if he harbors the Farm Team.
The "Spring Cleaning" quote is interesting. And yeah, he wants a one way.

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Translated http://translate.google.com/translat...rg&sl=sv&tl=en

some interesting quotes in there...



I'm assuming he's talking about Columbus buying out his HV71 contract. Would a budget team do that?



The "Spring Cleaning" quote is interesting. And yeah, he wants a one way.
Well, a budget team can more easily spend money to buy him out than to pay him big money because that money doesn't effect revenue sharing.

Don't know enough about him to have an opinion. Given the fact that Brunnstrum and Leino have struggled, it is hard to know how his game would translate.

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The translation about the part about buying his contract out is:

He has for a long time had Columbus' interest, but due to his contract, the 26 year old could not leave HV.

"Because there wasn't any NHL agreement (NHL-avtal? He might mean the SEL/NHL transfer agreement) and I had a contract with HV, I wasn't able to make my way to the NHL. Well, if I bought myself out."


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The "Spring Cleaning" quote is interesting. And yeah, he wants a one way.
That's coming from the Expressen writer, not Thörnberg. So, take it with a grain of salt.

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Translated http://translate.google.com/translat...rg&sl=sv&tl=en

some interesting quotes in there...

I'm assuming he's talking about Columbus buying out his HV71 contract. Would a budget team do that?

The "Spring Cleaning" quote is interesting. And yeah, he wants a one way.
I like the potential of a guy named "Thorn Mountains." Might bring some toughness to the team. Slashing penalties might be a *****, tho.

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We've had crappy luck trying to pluck players out of Elitserien though. Remember a couple years ago when Doug tried to sign Per Ledin, but the NHL nullified the deal because apparently Douggie filled the paperwork out wrong?

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I have no idea why some of you want to add Souray and his contract. You guys being frustrated from supporting the Jackets for ten years I can understand, but IMO Souray is no way the answer.

He would probably upgrade the PP marginally, but a player with a $5.4 million cap hit has to bring more than a big shot. And it is not like the PP sucked big time this season. He is also very injury prone, and the Blue Jackets don't need another injured big salary d-man sitting in the press box. I might be wrong here, but he also seems to be kind of a dick.

IMO the Jackets will be better of with Tyutin, Russel, Strålman for now. Their salary combined is equal to Souray's, and I'm sure they all will contribute as much as he would sooner rather than later. And Moore is in the ranks.
IMO you could see vast improvement on both Russell and Strålman last season and I would like to see them paired together on that first PP next season.
I think Stralman regressed significantly over the course of the season.

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This thread needs more BONANZA!!!!



Ok, carry on.

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This thread needs more BONANZA!!!!



Ok, carry on.
Could our team's off-season bonanza include the hiring of this guy?


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04-14-2010, 12:27 PM
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Wow, watching that video ^^^ and hearing "Dineen from Cassells and Sanderson" brought back memories, eh?

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Might be an interesting pickup...I wouldn't mind another 20 goal scorer on the team, especially if he wants to play for us. He could be my underdog pick at training camp like Steiner was last year.

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I like the potential of a guy named "Thorn Mountains." Might bring some toughness to the team. Slashing penalties might be a *****, tho.
If we get him, there's his new nickname. That makes him sound like a guy I wouldn't want to be on the ice with.

I love Babelfish...

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Wow, watching that video ^^^ and hearing "Dineen from Cassells and Sanderson" brought back memories, eh?
Did we get the Whalers after all? Didn't realize they were all on the same team both there and here.


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I think Stralman regressed significantly over the course of the season.
I'm not sure we use the term "regression" the same as you do, but here it means go back to an earlier stage, i.e take a step backwards, getting worse. If that is what you mean, I don't agree with you at all. In what part of his game did he regress?

I do however think he slowed down a bit. Considering the trouble he and his family went through (having a new born i CGY, being traded, wife couldn't get visa and was stuck there with infant, had to get married to get the family to US), he got of to a surprisingly strong start. As did the whole team.

At the end of the season it looked like he was a bit worn out and not as effective. I hope that was just him not used to get so much TOI or play that many games at the NHL level. In Toronto he was held to 10-12 mins/game and was sent to the doghouse or the Marlies if making a mistake. In Colombus he was handed a top spot at the PP and due to injuries got to play a bit over 20 mins/game over the course of the season.

So I agree he slowed down but at the same time he looked more and more comfortable out there as the season went along, cut the rookie mistakes and developed a smarter defensive game, especially around the boards.

Sorry, this is not a Strålman thread. I know what talent he possesses, and I'm confident that hanging on to him (and Russell, who had the opposite season, starting slow and finishing great) will benefit the Jackets more than bring in a 5.4 million injuryprone Souray.

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04-14-2010, 01:17 PM
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The Thörnberg interest really came out of the blue. I never saw NHL material in him, but the more I think about it he could fit in nicely with a playmaker feeding him.

I say you can compare his play with the level of play Patric Hörnqvist had when leaving for the NHL. Of course he has taken his play another level since leaving. Thörnberg is not as effective around the crease as Hörnqvist, but he has an effective shot and has a nack for finding that open spot. He also contributes on a constant basis and seems to raise his level in the playoffs.

Kind of an interesting player. Could be a heavy bust or breakout like Hörnqvist.

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Care to elaborate?
I had already earlier in the thread, but if you can't be bothered to read it, then I'll post it again.

He's got a shot, yes, but he's also an excellent penalty killer, he's a physical presence who isn't afraid to use his size and strength, he's been a leader on every team he's played on, (wore a letter on his jersey in both Edmonton and Montreal). He's also very good defensively against the cycle, and his big shot is more than just a weapon on the powerplay. He's able to get it off quickly, and it makes him a threat at ES as well.

I've never been one of Souray's supporters in Edmonton, before or after he was signed by the Oilers, but it would take a great deal of ignorance to think his shot is the only thing he brings to the table, even if you don't like the guy.

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souray seems like another klesla with a better shot to me...we'd have him for maybe half the season...rather go in another direction

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Raffi

Since Raffi is doing so well in Buffalo is there any chance he signs with Columbus in the off season?

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Since Raffi is doing so well in Buffalo is there any chance he signs with Columbus in the off season?
I really really really like Raffi, but I have to ask, where's the room? Filatov will/should/might be back, Calvert may need a spot, Kana played well, and I still would love to see D-Mac earn a spot.

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I really really really like Raffi, but I have to ask, where's the room? Filatov will/should/might be back, Calvert may need a spot, Kana played well, and I still would love to see D-Mac earn a spot.
My guess would be Filatov will be the variable in all this. If he doesnt come back maybe we can justify signing raffi.

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My guess would be Filatov will be the variable in all this. If he doesnt come back maybe we can justify signing raffi.
Raffi will be signed by someone at that point. Filatov is coming back, we already know this. Whether he stays or not is still up in the air, but by the time training camp rolls around, Raffi will have already signed with someone.

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I'm not sure we use the term "regression" the same as you do, but here it means go back to an earlier stage, i.e take a step backwards, getting worse. If that is what you mean, I don't agree with you at all. In what part of his game did he regress?

I do however think he slowed down a bit. Considering the trouble he and his family went through (having a new born i CGY, being traded, wife couldn't get visa and was stuck there with infant, had to get married to get the family to US), he got of to a surprisingly strong start. As did the whole team.

At the end of the season it looked like he was a bit worn out and not as effective. I hope that was just him not used to get so much TOI or play that many games at the NHL level. In Toronto he was held to 10-12 mins/game and was sent to the doghouse or the Marlies if making a mistake. In Colombus he was handed a top spot at the PP and due to injuries got to play a bit over 20 mins/game over the course of the season.

So I agree he slowed down but at the same time he looked more and more comfortable out there as the season went along, cut the rookie mistakes and developed a smarter defensive game, especially around the boards.

Sorry, this is not a Strålman thread. I know what talent he possesses, and I'm confident that hanging on to him (and Russell, who had the opposite season, starting slow and finishing great) will benefit the Jackets more than bring in a 5.4 million injuryprone Souray.
He got worse. His defensive game got a lot worse as the season went on until his value pretty much turned into just a power-play specialist. There is a reason he never got bumped up in the lineup with all of the defensive injuries, it was because he was a liability defensively. I liked the guy a lot at the start but he quickly faded into the dislike category because he just doesn't seem to have what it takes to play defense consistently for this team.

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