I mean, I agree to an extent. I'll watch Conan if he was on Lifetime, but it's just I feel like all of the TBS exclusive shows in general are just chintzy. George Lopez is a joke, Frank Caliendo is a one-trick pony, Tyler Perry just...sucks, and I feel like Conan is just way above those kinds of programs. I feel like he could do a whole lot better.
Wow. If he was going cable...why not go to a good cable station. Im surprised HBO didnt snag him. Conan with NO limits? Would be glorious.
IMO, this is embarassing for Conan, and kinda supports that he isnt one of the "big boys"...which I disagree with....but this move wont do anything to dissuade that notion, rather it will confirm it for many
To me, it just confirms that the Johnny Carson-era Tonight Show should've ended in '92.
The landscape is far different than it was in '92 and the target audiences of Leno and Letterman, in addition to themselves, aren't getting any younger.
Wow. If he was going cable...why not go to a good cable station. Im surprised HBO didnt snag him. Conan with NO limits? Would be glorious.
IMO, this is embarassing for Conan, and kinda supports that he isnt one of the "big boys"...which I disagree with....but this move wont do anything to dissuade that notion, rather it will confirm it for many
I disagree. To me it just proves, once again, that broadcast networks are no longer what they once were and that the landscape is very different then it was when Letterman bolted for CBS. Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert have proven that you don't need to be on the Big 4 to have a successful late night show.
Conan probably could have thrown a show together for the CW and been able to say "look at me, I'm on a broadcast network!" but instead he went where there was money and creative control.
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How the hell did Fox come up short in this? They couldn't get out of showing reruns of defunct shows?
Fox's affiliates make a lot of money off those syndicated shows and by selling local advertising. Fox would have had to force as many of them as possible to give up that money, and even then not every affiliate was guaranteed to do it... Buffalo's Fox affiliate makes so much money off syndicated shows (because they garner a ton of Canadian viewers) that they don't even produce a local news, what's the incentive for them to show Conan? Imagine Fox trying to promote Conan when his show starts at 11 in some markets but 12 in others and 11:30 in some others... it would be a disaster.
Also, because of the risk involved, they weren't willing to invest too much money. He was being offered 7 figures and Fox would own the rights to the show. TBS offered 8 figures and let Conan produce the show himself.
How the hell did Fox come up short in this? They couldn't get out of showing reruns of defunct shows?
some of their affiliates had to run certain show through certain dates so conan would be shown as basically a "check your local listing" type of show. i guess they just couldn't shuffle stuff around quick enough to make it worth it or whatever.
I think Peachtree tv is TBS in Canada, not sure though
From Wikipedia: In late June 2007, Turner Broadcasting announced that WTBS would change its callsign and become WPCH-TV, under the branding Peachtree TV. According to Turner, the new channel 17 will offer sitcoms and movies geared toward an Atlanta-area audience, substantially if not entirely separate from the satellite feed. The new station will, in the future, also broadcast 45 Atlanta Braves baseball games in 2008. The change is scheduled to take place on October 1. As a result, the channel 17 change will allow Atlanta cable and satellite television viewers to receive, for the first time, the national TBS feed in its entirety.[2]
The new station is not related to the similarly-called FM station in Macon, WPCH, which is owned by Clear Channel.
In Canada, most cable and satellite companies carried WTBS's local Atlanta signal instead of the national TBS channel. Following the change, Canadian systems have currently chosen to keep Peachtree TV.
In other words you guys r getting the Atlanta version of TBS instead of the national US version
I'm hearing he's been named the new host of Lopez's show, and they're moving Lopez to prime time
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Conan should have just given up on talk shows and become the executive producer of The Simpsons.
gross. a half an hour of the simpsons, even at it's prime, once a week for half of the year wasn't as good as 5 hours of conan a week year round. and even when conan was writing i wonder how many episodes out of a whole season he actually wrote. and as a producer he'd have even less creative influence. at least directly. he'd be sitting at a desk somewhere never to be seen again, and the simpsons may or may not get any better. i never understand the suggestion that he should go back to the simpsons.
I don't watch anything involved with Tyler Perry but I believe his shows do very well.
All those crime scene shows seem to do well but it doesn't make them any less awful.
seriously. Tyler Perry should not write anything, even if it's a damn greeting card, he'd probably find some way to make it the corny black people humor that makes him so bafflingly famous.
I don't like Lopez's particular brand of Comedy, but his show was reasonably successful. A Conan + Lopez lineup could be fairly potent. TBS has shown a commitment to late night original programing and it's probably a good fit. Shows like SOA are starting to get big near broadcast ratings in key demos, the difference between cable and broadcast is shrinking immensely.
I don't think an HBO Conan with no limits would be much different than the old shows.
I don't think an HBO Conan with no limits would be much different than the old shows.
yeah I don't think Conan would do as well with no restrictions. He's edgy but if there are no rules how can one be edgy? TBS is a interesting move and I'm just glad he's not on the Seth Mcfarland network. Conan doesn't seem to be a person who would look comfortable throwing out F bombs here and there.
I don't like Lopez's particular brand of Comedy, but his show was reasonably successful. A Conan + Lopez lineup could be fairly potent. TBS has shown a commitment to late night original programing and it's probably a good fit. Shows like SOA are starting to get big near broadcast ratings in key demos, the difference between cable and broadcast is shrinking immensely.
I don't think an HBO Conan with no limits would be much different than the old shows.
Not true, OTA still gets much higher ratings than cable. Let me know when cable gets 20 million for a new episode of CSI.
Funny how all these franchises like Conan and MNF leave for cable...MNF bragged about having spectacular ratings after leaving OTA. On ABC MNF could get 17 or 18 mil. Now they get at most 10. It's just baffling...if cable is this alleged widespread dominating monster and everyone has cable why haven't the ratings been equal to those of OTA?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying nothing's good on cable, because there are a few things worth watching on cable. But OTA still dominates in terms of ratings.
