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04-12-2010, 02:58 PM
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Stauffer the apologist, shame on you

I should not be surprised that Stauffer is throwing Souray under the bus and siding with the buffoons that are the management of the Oilers. Way to keep your journalistic integrity BOB

A year ago you were singing praises that Souray was part of one of the best blue lines in the league and now you can't wait to ride him out of town? What's the matter Bob, did the truth ruffel some feathers in Oilers management mod edit:.

Why not adress the fact that the management has become a poison to the Oilers? I hope Katz wakes up and realizes that Burke was right all along, Lowe et al have sewered this organization.


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Throwing Souray under the bus??? Who cares he just crapped all over the organization. You think this only affects management?? This will hamper any plans to sign anyone to fill out the roster this offseason. This will affect the team, the players the fans. All because of a selfish whiny player. Go ahead and side with him but your are Wrong plain and simple.

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Throwing Souray under the bus??? Who cares he just crapped all over the organization. You think this only affects management?? This will hamper any plans to sign anyone to fill out the roster this offseason. This will affect the team, the players the fans. All because of a selfish whiny player. Go ahead and side with him but your are Wrong plain and simple.
yea... while he defends the city and the fans... it doesnt really matter because this probably affects the hockey team now... gonna be another long summer!

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glad to see spector has converted another person who is incapable of of understanding exactly what type of player souray is and what his motives are, which are to get paid and to play where he wants...

edmonton paid him, and now he wants out...

you will be the same person coming on here in a couple years saying how great a job tambo has done getting youth and skill into this organization and exciting the team is to watch...

bottom line is tambo has done exactly what he has said he will do up to this point, if you don't like it, don't watch or support the team anymore, saying stauffer is off in his comments is so misguided is funny, really amazed at the amount ignorance that article has unfettered...

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glad to see spector has converted another person who is incapable of of understanding exactly what type of player souray is and what his motives are, which are to get paid and to play where he wants...

edmonton paid him, and now he wants out...

you will be the same person coming on here in a couple years saying how great a job tambo has done getting youth and skill into this organization and exciting the team is to watch...

bottom line is tambo has done exactly what he has said he will do up to this point, if you don't like it, don't watch or support the team anymore, saying stauffer is off in his comments is so misguided is funny, really amazed at the amount ignorance that article has unfettered...

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Let me ask you this? Why are all the people dissing Souray coming out of the woodwork NOW as opposed to the last two years.

It took Tambo until the trade deadline to figure out this team needed a rebuild so spare us with the grand plan of Rambo. Trying to get Heatley, Signing Khabibulin long term and coming right out and saying they were still 'evaluating' the team 20 games before the deadline.

Spector or the media coverting people? You have it totally ass backwards, more like a few members of the free pass media have finally seen the light and it's a heck of a rare occurence for any media anywhere near edmonton to be critical of the oilers.

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Typical sheep hear drinking the oilers kool aid, you are the reason why these guys are not held accountable. As Willis said, eventually you have to stop blaming the players and look at the management who has created a poisonous environment. Even Laraque said that other players have told him that they do not want to come here because of the drama. The facts prove that management is the problem.

All you guys siding with management keep it up and watch things never change, with a first/second overall pick coming here management better wisen up.

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Let me ask you this? Why are all the people dissing Souray coming out of the woodwork NOW as opposed to the last two years.

It took Tambo until the trade deadline to figure out this team needed a rebuild so spare us with the grand plan of Rambo. Trying to get Heatley, Signing Khabibulin long term and coming right out and saying they were still 'evaluating' the team 20 games before the deadline.

Spector or the media coverting people? You have it totally ass backwards, more like a few members of the free pass media have finally seen the light and it's a heck of a rare occurence for any media anywhere near edmonton to be critical of the oilers.
Even a rebuilding team needs good goaltending. Its tough rebuild with young guys when every mistake they make ends up in the back of the net. They lose confidence and regress. We needed a guy like him. As for the price, not that much of a problem either, relative to the cap the Oilers spent about 5 million combined on goaltending. Which is probably in the bottom third of the league in terms of money spent on that position. The only problem I see is the term. That is a problem.

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This organization is a joke. I am sick of the "Drink the Cool Aid" Oiler shills. It is clear that the problem is KLowe and his minions. Look at the RESULTS.

If they peg Souray as a whinner, then so are the last 50 players who have played here and were glad to go in the last few years.

I am really beginning to hate this organization ... time to move on and start following a real team.

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Does Souray's public bashing of the Oiler's management and trade demand help:

The team? - Hell no, he squashed whatever little trade value he had
His teammates?- Hell no, I'm pretty sure a revolt isn't exactly the leadership this team needs.
The Fan's?- Hell no, way to smash the fragile confidence of a fan base that backed you from day one.
Himself?- Oh ya, at least someone will benefit from this move. maybe he'll get his wish and find a team that will tuck him in every night.

My boss never visited me when i was in the hospital either. I QUIT!
Pretty selfish move!

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This organization is a joke. I am sick of the "Drink the Cool Aid" Oiler shills. It is clear that the problem is KLowe and his minions. Look at the RESULTS.

If they peg Souray as a whinner, then so are the last 50 players who have played here and were glad to go in the last few years.

I am really beginning to hate this organization ... time to move on and start following a real team.
So long then. don't let the door hit you on the way out.

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All I will say is that 1 day the Oilers will be a good team.

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Some of you have selective hearing and reading. Stauffer's blasted the Oilers on numerous occasions (even after going on their payroll). He has a very valid point that Souray should have done this in private.

What Souray's done is devalue himself and put the Oilers in a tougher position to trade him.

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Stauffer might have a point.

I like Souray as a person and part of me really appreciates his honesty, especially in light of the Pronger fiasco. But make no mistake: The way Souray behaved cannot be described as "professional." If he felt as strongly as he did, he should have had his agent put in a call to Patrick LaForge, or someone in a non-hockey related role, explaining the seriousness of the situation. Going public with his dissatisfaction really served no purpose except to hurt the franchise he supposedly used to love.

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Stauffer works for the oilers--he makes no secret of it--it is his job and it looks like he will be replacing rod next year--he is doing what is best for him. He no longer is worried about his credibility and he has made that clear

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Yeah keeping it in house has worked so well for us in the past. This is exactly what this team needs if you ask me. A good hard slap in the chops to wake some people up.

On one hand people want honesty and transparency....except when it is something that might reflect badly on them then it is keep it 'in house'.

Souray was going to be dealt anyway more than likely
Souray was not going to get top notch value after this past year anyway.
All this does is let the oilers off the hook for any kind of trade. Same lame excuse that was used in the Pronger deal and the Smyth deal...'our hands were tied!....whine'

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This thread is primed for locking......

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Again, the original point, as well as being incorrect, lacks complete validity after the Geobbles allusion. Posts like this, threads like this, just get so ridiculously tiresome.
Funny. What also gets tiresome is your "go be a Canucks fan" shtick.

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Stauffer might have a point.

I like Souray as a person and part of me really appreciates his honesty, especially in light of the Pronger fiasco. But make no mistake: The way Souray behaved cannot be described as "professional." If he felt as strongly as he did, he should have had his agent put in a call to Patrick LaForge, or someone in a non-hockey related role, explaining the seriousness of the situation. Going public with his dissatisfaction really served no purpose except to hurt the franchise he supposedly used to love.
Actually, while who knows what Souray did with respect to his agent and his attempts to contact the media, I think history has dictated that if a "big name" player wants out of the organization, making the reasons public - provided they're honest reasons - is the absolute classiest thing to do. This city could not handle another whispered disaster.

Lay the cards out. We're owed that. There's been enough **** going on behind the curtain that it's time for the curtain to be drawn.

I don't know if Souray comes by his position justifiably. I'm not judging or taking sides. But if there's a grievance, it is high time that it is a public one. It's time to find out what's really wrong here.

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Let me ask you this? Why are all the people dissing Souray coming out of the woodwork NOW as opposed to the last two years.
Probably because Souray fired the first shot...

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Actually, while who knows what Souray did with respect to his agent and his attempts to contact the media, I think history has dictated that if a "big name" player wants out of the organization, making the reasons public - provided they're honest reasons - is the absolute classiest thing to do. This city could not handle another whispered disaster.

Lay the cards out. We're owed that. There's been enough **** going on behind the curtain that it's time for the curtain to be drawn.

I don't know if Souray comes by his position justifiably. I'm not judging or taking sides. But if there's a grievance, it is high time that it is a public one. It's time to find out what's really wrong here.
Well, I think you make a valid point, and as I say, I appreciate the honesty. If Chris Pronger had said, "honestly, I enjoyed the city and I loved the fans, but it's just not a good fit for my family," I think people would have been a bit more receptive. Souray is honest, but maybe a bit too honest. If that's how you feel, fine, but share that with the team's management. Don't go to a journalist and say something that will seriously hurt the team's perception in the public at a time when they can scarcely afford it... however true it may be.

It's like a teenager who works at Safeway and decides one day he doesn't like working there anymore. Instead of telling his bosses why and giving his two weeks notice, he steals a bunch of groceries and stops showing up all of a sudden without any notice. There's nothing professional about it at all.

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Some of you have selective hearing and reading. Stauffer's blasted the Oilers on numerous occasions (even after going on their payroll). He has a very valid point that Souray should have done this in private.

What Souray's done is devalue himself and put the Oilers in a tougher position to trade him.
Agreed. He basically said the same thing Brownlee did and is quite obvious.

The timing of this does not make a lot of sense for Sheldon Souray and is in reality self-defeating.

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Let me ask you this? Why are all the people dissing Souray coming out of the woodwork NOW as opposed to the last two years.

It took Tambo until the trade deadline to figure out this team needed a rebuild so spare us with the grand plan of Rambo. Trying to get Heatley, Signing Khabibulin long term and coming right out and saying they were still 'evaluating' the team 20 games before the deadline.

Spector or the media coverting people? You have it totally ass backwards, more like a few members of the free pass media have finally seen the light and it's a heck of a rare occurence for any media anywhere near edmonton to be critical of the oilers.

You don't follow or know much about Spector, do you...

The guy has made a living grasping at straws and taking shots at anything 'Edmonton' the last decade.

He proudly states that the first question he asks any new player is, 'what brings you to this outpost?' He used that line a dozen times and writes his articles using a single template. He simply is a guy stumbling to find a paycheck and can only get one by bashing Edmonton. He has zero skills as a human being, i'm being serious.

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Fans - great....

City - great...

Management - sucks....


Why do I agree 100% with Souray.........

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