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05-05-2004, 01:58 PM
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Rucinsky

Spector recently cited Fischler as saying the Rucinsky wants to return to the Rangers for next year. If the price is right, it doesn't seem like a bad move considering how well he played here. However, besides him and perhaps Barnaby, I hope the Rangers essentially stay away from the UFA market.

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I can take or leave Rucinsky. He had a very good year here, played hard, worked hard, and was a good soldier. But I'm not really sure what he brings to this team to make it better. Seems to me like Rucinsky can help a good team be better not a bad team become good.

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I can take or leave Rucinsky. He had a very good year here, played hard, worked hard, and was a good soldier. But I'm not really sure what he brings to this team to make it better. Seems to me like Rucinsky can help a good team be better not a bad team become good.
I agree with SBOB..Rucinsky definetely played better then I ever expected and he was solid as a Ranger...Defintely a possibility but I would look into other options (internal or external---and hopefully younger ones) first and not rush into a FA signing like Rucinsky

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I think we should bring him back, simply so Jagr has someone to play with.

Jagr - Balej - Rucinsky

Would be nice.

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I think we should bring him back, simply so Jagr has someone to play with.

Jagr - Balej - Rucinsky

Would be nice.
I'm not worried about Sather finding a compliment for Jagr..He will, just don't think it has to be Rucinsky.....Somehow, I remembering all the approvals of bring back that worthless piece of dung Hlavac the Horrible, just so he and his buddy Nedved could play together again...

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I think we should bring him back, simply so Jagr has someone to play with.

Jagr - Balej - Rucinsky

Would be nice.
Balej is not a Center, you have two right wings and a left wing on this line

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I think we should bring him back, simply so Jagr has someone to play with.

Jagr - Balej - Rucinsky

Would be nice.
Wouldn't be nice, they would never have the puck because they would never win a faceoff.

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I think we should bring him back, simply so Jagr has someone to play with.

Jagr - Balej - Rucinsky

Would be nice.
You can't bring in Rucinsky "...simply so Jagr has someone to play with."
Jagr-Balej-Rucinsky

Rucinsky-Holik-Balej

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Rucinsky > Hlavac.

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Rucinsky's a heck of a lot >...

than Hlavac. I would definitely consider bringing in Rucinsky. He's a good penalty killer. Good in a defensive role. Decent offensively. And personally, if he's a Ranger, I'm not sure he takes up a yoot's roster spot on the left side. A top 3 line left winger would certainly be welcome here.

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than Hlavac. I would definitely consider bringing in Rucinsky. He's a good penalty killer. Good in a defensive role. Decent offensively. And personally, if he's a Ranger, I'm not sure he takes up a yoot's roster spot on the left side. A top 3 line left winger would certainly be welcome here.
agree with that one fletch! he did a good job for the rangers.

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agree with that one fletch! he did a good job for the rangers.
Agreed. F' Hlavac.

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I think we should bring him back, simply so Jagr has someone to play with.
Actually, during the WC Jagr had someone to play with: Petr Prucha!

Prucha - ? - Jagr

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The most, important thing before we sign anyone is to have a game plan. Are we going all vets on the top 2 lines and saying screw the kids, they get the 2 checking lines?? or is it going to be 70% kids 30% vets. Also the line ups.

IMO, 3 brand new kids should be on this team in September, and they would be

Kondratiev, Lundqvist and Prucha.

Kondratiev can begin by being a #5 defencemen, but that can be figured out later, as can Lundqvist's situation, but Prucha is very clear. Either he's on a scoring line, or he goes back to europe, because he's a waste on a checking line.

Also are we commiting to guys like Lundmark, finally, and Balej and giving them the #2 line?? These are big question before we go into the season or even more important, before we sign Rucinsky, going into the season these are my ideal lines based on strengths and such:

1st. Prucha---FA CENTER---Jagr (Prucha and Jagr played together for the Czech)
2nd Barnaby---Lundmark---Balej (speed, youth and barnaby for grit and safety)
3rd Moore---Holik---Ortmeyar (a true checking line, finally utilizing Holik)
4th Murray---Betts---Josh Green (energy line)

Imo these lines emphasize roles, compatibility, while ensuring both kids and vets play in proper places

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Agreed. F' Hlavac.
if hlavac could play a whole season like the played the end of this season i'd be happy to have him back, but i dont think he has it in him. however, i'd like to have him back if only for the fact i'd love another high draft slot next draft.

however, i'm not sure of my thoughts on rucinsky. i think the line combo needs to be right for him to work well, and after november he wasn't all that spectacular. also, we'll hopefully be using holik correctly this year, so he wouldn't have holik as a line mate, nor kovalev to send those nice passes. the biggest criteria i think we should base this on is: how can he help younger players develop into better players? i'm not sure he'd be a HUGE help...


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if hlavac could play a whole season like the played the end of this season i'd be happy to have him back, but i dont think he has it in him. however, i'd like to have him back if only for the fact i'd love another high draft slot next draft.
Has anyone seen the CZE - USA game? What a beautiful goal by Hlavac! Too bad, he beat Vokoun and not Conklin with it...

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Has anyone seen the CZE - USA game? What a beautiful goal by Hlavac! Too bad, he beat Vokoun and not Conklin with it...
no, as far as im aware, there has been no american coverage(at least not in the NYC area)...i've seen the prucha goals where the video came online but thats it.

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if hlavac could play a whole season like the played the end of this season i'd be happy to have him back, but i dont think he has it in him. however, i'd like to have him back if only for the fact i'd love another high draft slot next draft.

however, i'm not sure of my thoughts on rucinsky. i think the line combo needs to be right for him to work well, and after november he wasn't all that spectacular. also, we'll hopefully be using holik correctly this year, so he wouldn't have holik as a line mate, nor kovalev to send those nice passes. the biggest criteria i think we should base this on is: how can he help younger players develop into better players? i'm not sure he'd be a HUGE help...
Rucinsky can play 1st, 2nd or third line. He's a good complimentary player. He's also good on the PK.

Even with Rucinsky on the team with only Holik and Jagr as 30 year old+ vets, there's plenty of room for the youth.

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As far as UFA's go (and you know that Sather will bring some in) I would like to see Barnaby for sure,Rucinsky, And Conroy if at all possible. And I would not mind Simon either. Fire away.

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Rucinsky can play 1st, 2nd or third line. He's a good complimentary player. He's also good on the PK.

Even with Rucinsky on the team with only Holik and Jagr as 30 year old+ vets, there's plenty of room for the youth.
Will there be enough room if Barnaby and Lindros are back as well? :lol :lol

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There is no reason to bring Rucinsky back. He can't protect anybody on the team and he stunk the second half. People seem to forget all he did the second half was take lazy, stupid, penalties.

The scoring spots on our 1st and 2nd lines should go to Balej and perhaps either Moore, Wiseman or Prucha. There is NO reason to bring Rucinsky back to NY

 
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As far as UFA's go (and you know that Sather will bring some in) I would like to see Barnaby for sure,Rucinsky, And Conroy if at all possible. And I would not mind Simon either. Fire away.
I tend to agree RANGER#11.

I really wouldn't categorize Rucinsky, Simon or Barnaby
as "free agents", with the onus it carries, based on the performance/contract ratio with the FA's that Smith and Sather have signed (Fleury, Kamensky, Lefebvre, Quintal, Ulanov, Karpa, Kasper and Holik). It's become a dirty word round these parts.

Barnaby (via trade), Rucinsky and Simon have all met or exceeded expectations. It wasn't their fault that we sucked.


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I would love to see Barnaby back here next year. If he does come back, I want the third line to be Barnaby-Holik-Ortemeyer. That line is there to shut people down, adjutate the hell out of them and provide a spark through physical play and just the emotion they show on the ice. If the club was as young as we have been projecting, I could see Barnaby getting an A or C here to start the year.

Simon said he would love to come back. I think with the line above, and Simon should not be on the top two scoring lines, he would just be taking up the spot of a prospect we are taking a chance on.

Rucinsky would be nice to have but there are other UFA's out there I would sign ahead of him to help mentor the prospects and play certain roles. He played above expectations last year with the club.

All in all, I would look for us to sign 2 UFA forwards, Barnaby and a top 2 line center. Possibly trade for a veteren defensemen, though I would rather see us go at it with what we have now and give the kids a chance to show maturity. And then of course the goalie situation is up in the air with what happens to Dunham and Lundqvist. Our salary base is nothing like it was at the start of next year. I could see us buying out Dunham, sucking up a few million for doing it, and signing a Salo to mentor Lundqvist with the club to start the year.

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My point was simply that Jagr needs a guy to play with (over 22) so he dosent get upset. The Jagr - Balej - Rucinsky thing was me just thinking that they would look good together because of their speed and creativity, I wasnt talking about converting one to a center or something. Some people really need to stop reading so much into passing comments....

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"But someone close to Jaromir Jagr suggests that JJ would prefer to play with a familiar linemate and will attempt to persuade Rucinsky to change his mind."

Exactly what i was saying. He didnt seem keen on the rebuilding idea and I think that this would make him a little more happy.

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