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2010 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Part 2)

Part 1: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=756074

So, here's my stab at a new Entry Draft thread. This is just a beginning. I'll be adding more prospects in the days ahead, and if anyone wants to help out, feel free to contribute. Tried to be as unbiased as possible.

Taylor Hall



Position: LW
ISS Rank: 3
CS Rank: North American skaters #1
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 190 lbs
Age: 18
Team (League): Windsor (OHL)
Comparison: Zach Parise with half the guts and half the hockey sense.
Brief description: Taylor Hall is all about creating offense, mostly for himself. Incredible speed. Incredible hands. He is held back by questionable decision making. He tries to do too much sometimes, and is prone to making mistakes.

Tyler Seguin



Position: C
ISS Rank: 1
CS Rank: NAS 2
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 185 lbs
Age: 18
Team (League): Plymouth (OHL)
Comparison: Steve Yzerman, but not quite as good.
Brief description: Seguin is the best playmaker in this draft, and he's probably the second most effective two-way center in the draft (taking both offense and defense into account, equally). He's no slouch in the goalscoring department, and he's also somewhat of a leader.

Cam Fowler



Position: D
ISS Rank: 3
CS Rank: NAS 3
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 197 lbs
Age: 18
Team (League): Windsor (OHL)
Comparison: Poor man's Scott Niedermayer offensively, poor man's Duncan Keith defensively.
Brief description: Very smart, very skilled defender. Plays an effective and efficient two-way game. Solid, but unspectacular speed. Can be reluctant toward the physical aspects of the game. Very safe pick. Very likely to reach full potential.

Erik Gudbranson



Position: D
ISS Rank: 6
CS Rank: NAS 6
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 200 lbs
Age: 18
Team (League): Kingston (OHL)
Comparison: Zach Bogosian with more smarts.
Brief description: He's gritty, he is physical and he is smart defensively. He's also a good passer and has a big shot. Another safe pick, this guy will be a solid piece for any team.

Vladimir Tarasenko



Position: RW
ISS Rank: 4
CS Rank: EU 2
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 190 lbs
Age: 18
Team (League): Novosibirsk (KHL)
Comparison: Phil Kessel with Mogilny-like hands.
Brief description: Tarasenko is an offensive dynamo. Great hands, great shot, great moves. Deceptively fast skater. Questionable willingness to play defense, combined with questions about his transfer status may cause him to fall.

Brett Connolly



Position: RW
ISS Rank: 11
CS Rank: NAS 4
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 180 lbs
Age: 18
Team (League): Prince George (WHL)
Comparison: Marian Gaborik with a smaller build and moves that aren't quite as flashy.
Brief description: If it wasn't for lingering concerns about Connolly's hip flexor injury issues, this young man would probably be the third-highest forward picked in the draft. But he will drop, and perhaps, some lucky team can get a real steal. He has very good puckhandling skills, great speed, and possibly the best wrist shot in the draft.

Alexander Burmistrov



Position: C
ISS Rank: 12
CS Rank: NAS 7
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 180 lbs
Age: 18
Team (League): Barrie (OHL)
Comparison: Poor man's Pavel Datsyuk mixed with Stephen Weiss
Brief description: The best two-way center in the draft, and probably the smartest forward in the draft. Excellent passer, solid playmaker, and very responsible. Not a great skater and not particularly strong or physical, but makes up for it with excellent positioning.

Brandon Gormley



Position: D
ISS Rank: 5
CS Rank: NAS 8
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 185 lbs
Age: 18
Team (League): Moncton (QMJHL)
Comparison: Keith Yandle
Brief description: An all-purpose player who isn't especially great at any part of the game. His utilitarian skillset will propel him to a higher selection than his talent alone would have. He can be a part of the offense, he can be a part of the defense, and he can eat up minutes.

Kirill Kabanov



Position: RW
ISS Rank: 7
CS Rank: NAS 15
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 180 lbs
Age: 18
Team (League): Moncton (QMJHL)
Comparison: Alexander Semin, Ales Hemsky
Brief Description: All-world skill already tagged with the "enigmatic" label , Kabanov will drop. The question is, how low? He is one of the most talented offensive players in the draft, but he doesn't play defense and he is perceived to have attitude problems. An all too familiar risk/reward scenario: go for broke and hope the big talent overcomes the character issues.

Nino Niederreiter



Position: LW
ISS Rank: 9
CS Rank: NAS 14
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 205 lbs.
Age: 17
Team (League): Portland (WHL)
Comparison: Poor man's Rick Nash, Dustin Penner
Brief Description: Nino is big and strong, has a booming shot, and is a total workhorse. To this point, he's been very difficult to stop, or even slow down. But questions remain, mainly about his hockey IQ. He's gotten by on his physical gifts so far. He'll very likely stick in the NHL, even if he doesn't reach his full potential, but if a team picks him in the top 10, they'll be hoping he can be taught.

Austin Watson



Position: C/RW
ISS Rank: 8
CS Rank: NAS 25
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 180 lbs.
Age: 18
Team (League): Peterborough (OHL)
Comparison: Mix of Jordan Staal and Travis Zajac
Brief Description: Since being traded to the Petes earlier this season and being given more icetime and responsibility, Watson's stock has really risen. Already known for being one of the best defensive forwards in this year's draft, he's also showing that he can score. He still needs to get bigger and stronger, which will likely come. He's looking like a good bet to end up as a very good, two-way second line forward.

Mikael Granlund



Position: C
ISS Rank: 14
CS Rank: EU 1
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 180 lbs.
Age: 18
Team (League): HIFK (SM-Liiga)
Comparison: Saku Koivu, Pierre-Marc Bouchard
Brief Description: Granlund is a very shifty player with great skill. Unfortunately, he's also small and isn't particularly fast, which isn't exactly a recipe for success. Although smaller guys can succeed in the NHL today, they tend to require quickness to evade their larger competition. Granlund's lack of speed has seen him fall out of the projected top 5-10. He'll probably go somewhere in the 10-15 range.

Derek Forbort



Position: D
ISS Rank: 10
CS Rank: NAS 11
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 200 lbs.
Age: 18
Team (League): U.S. Development Team
Comparison: Brent Burns/Braydon Coburn
Brief Description: Still very raw, Forbort is obviously an attractive prospect due to his great size. At this point, his skillset has a little bit of everything, and he hasn't established himself in a particular niche. That may very well change as he gets a bit older and plays against tougher competition. He has the size to be physical and nasty, but that isn't a big part of his game yet.

Riley Sheahan



Position: C
ISS Rank: 13
CS Rank: NAS 5
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 200 lbs.
Age: 18
Team (League): Notre Dame (CCHA)
Comparison: Mike Fisher with a little more offense and speed.
Brief Description: Very smart defensive forward who also possesses great speed. Chances are high that he'll be at least a good third line center. His offense doesn't seem great enough to suggest he's going to be a big scorer, but it isn't out of the range of possibility for him to be a solid second line center, either.

Mark Pysyk



Position: D
ISS Rank: 16
CS Rank: NAS 9
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 180 lbs.
Age: 18
Team (League): Edmonton (WHL)
Comparison: Smaller, less physical Brooks Orpik.
Brief Description: Pysyk is a solid all-around prospect. He doesn't excel at any particular area, but he can play in all situations. He's a good decision maker, but his skating could stand to improve. He projects as a dependable second-pairing defenseman.

Ryan Johansen



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Position: C
ISS Rank: 17
CS Rank: North American skaters 16
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 194 lbs
Age: 17
Team (League): Portland Winterhawks (WHL)
Comparison: Ryan Getzlaf with a bit less physicality.
Brief description: Sweet pair of hands on a big body. Excellent play making ability and a quality shot, though he's reluctant to use it at times. Plays a true power-center role and has broken through physically in his first year with Portland by playing with more of an edge. Surprising speed and agility for a player his size. Most scouts feel he projects to play at 6'4 and 200lbs+ when he's finished growing. Stock has risen tremendously this year, but some attribute his success to playing with probable top-10 pick Nino Niederreiter.

Jonathan Merrill



Position: D
ISS Rank: 21
CS Rank: NAS 20
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 200 lbs
Age: 18
Team (League): US Development Team
Comparison: Mix of Marc Staal and Jordan Leopold
Brief description: Merrill has a nice big frame, and he seems to have a big brain, too. He's smart on both sides of the puck, but he still has somethings to work on. He needs to be more physical, more assertive offensively, and of course, he still needs to finish growing into that frame.

John McFarland



Position: LW/C
ISS Rank: 30
CS Rank: NAS 10
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 195 lbs
Age: 18
Team (League): Sudbury (OHL)
Comparison: Marian Hossa with less size and without any brains.
Brief description: Another classic headcase. He's got great moves, speed, and skills, but he has an attitude problem and his hockey IQ is very low. If he can be tamed and taught, he will be a huge steal. But that's a big if.

Jarred Tinordi



Position: D
ISS Rank: 26
CS Rank: North American skaters 38
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 205 lbs
Age: 18
Team (League): U.S. Development Team
Comparison: His father, Mark Tinordi. Maybe even bigger and stronger.
Brief description: Incredible frame that will surely fill out more as he gets older. He's huge. He's gritty. He's tough. He plays smart defense. His offense is come-and-go at this point, and needs some work. Still, he's shown flashes of a booming shot. This kid is a beast. Team that drafts him is going to get a guy that can scare the crap out of opposing teams on a nightly basis for the next 10-15 years.

Stanislav Galiev



Position: LW/RW
ISS Rank: N/A
CS Rank: NAS 20
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 185 lbs
Age: 18
Team (League): Saint John (QMJHL)
Comparison: Poor man's Semin.
Brief description: Smart playmaking winger with great hands. Good speed, good vision, solid decision maker. Going to be a very nice second line wing, 60-65 points a season.


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Word around the block is Dallas wants a DMan (Forbort) and Johansen has been heavily scouted by the Rangers as you all said. So this can play two ways

1) get Johansen at all costs which would probably mean swapping picks with Minny and giving them one more draft pick (2nd in 11?) and either Gilroy or Sangs. I don't know how I feel about that.

2)Go with Burmistrov of he's still on board. If not, then trade the 10th for like a 15th or something and a 2nd rounder and go for Bjugstad or Etem, and pick Kabanov with the 40th pick and someone else in round 2.
1. I'd rather just pick Burmistrov if it means that we don't have to move up. I like Johansen, but Burmistrov is good enough of a consolation prize to make it unnecessary to move up for Johansen, saving an asset in the process.

2. Like the idea of Burmistrov, but if he has already been taken, we'd still have a chance at least one of Tarasenko, Johansen, Connolly, etc. I would be angry if we traded down for a guy like Etem. There is a pretty big dropoff past the top 15 or so. If we stay at 10, we are guaranteed to have a chance at an impact player.

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I'm just worried that some of these mock drafts show all of Nino/Johansen/Burmistrov gone by #10. That would be a tragedy.

I'm not Gordie Clark but I have no interest in Granlund (size) and very little in Tarasenko. I know Tara's a potential game breaker, but this is not the same as Cherry (R.I.P. brother). The Rangers were deeper then and Cherry fell into their laps and wanted to play here, plus he had Jagr looking out for him and good diplomatic relations with Avangard Omsk.

The Rangers at this point in time are very thin at scoring forwards as we all know (until Team USA shows up and hopefully Grachev improves and maybe Hagelin and Werek turn into at least 20-25 goals scorers) and they can't afford to roll the dice on a wishy-washy kid who might stay on the other side of the Atlantic. This can't be a Jan Marek situation.

In a worst case scenario with the three guys we all want potentially gone (and there's very little chance Nino is gonna be around past #8), I'd rather roll the dice with an Etem/Bjugstad/Watson/Skinner/Sheehan at 15, have an extra 2nd for Kabanov and maybe Calle Jorek/Ivan Tegelin/Kusnetsov than put all my eggs in Camp Tarasenko.

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I'm just worried that some of these mock drafts show all of Nino/Johansen/Burmistrov gone by #10. That would be a tragedy.

I'm not Gordie Clark but I have no interest in Granlund (size) and very little in Tarasenko. I know Tara's a potential game breaker, but this is not the same as Cherry (R.I.P. brother). The Rangers were deeper then and Cherry fell into their laps and wanted to play here, plus he had Jagr looking out for him and good diplomatic relations with Avangard Omsk.

The Rangers at this point in time are very thin at scoring forwards as we all know (until Team USA shows up and hopefully Grachev improves and maybe Hagelin and Werek turn into at least 20-25 goals scorers) and they can't afford to roll the dice on a wishy-washy kid who might stay on the other side of the Atlantic. This can't be a Jan Marek situation.

In a worst case scenario with the three guys we all want potentially gone (and there's very little chance Nino is gonna be around past #8), I'd rather roll the dice with an Etem/Bjugstad/Watson/Skinner/Sheehan at 15, have an extra 2nd for Kabanov and maybe Calle Jorek/Ivan Tegelin/Kusnetsov than put all my eggs in Camp Tarasenko.

Thoughts? (This is like my favorite thread on this forum).
There's no reason to start freaking out about mock drafts now. The draft isn't until the end of June. Who knows what'll happen between now and then. It's just silly to be freaking out about Tarasenko not wanting to come over. That's why they interview guys and scout them. Clark won't draft him if he doesn't want to play in the NHL. If he does want to play in the NHL and Clark thinks he's the best player available then they will draft him. It's that simple.

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Yeah, I don't like the two teams picking in front of us, either could grab Johan or trade their pick to a team who's drafting a bit behind us.

I don't have a problem with Granlund's size he's an amazing talent, so is Pulkkinen. Two teams are gonna be happy they picked them.

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There's no reason to start freaking out about mock drafts now. The draft isn't until the end of June. Who knows what'll happen between now and then. It's just silly to be freaking out about Tarasenko not wanting to come over. That's why they interview guys and scout them. Clark won't draft him if he doesn't want to play in the NHL. If he does want to play in the NHL and Clark thinks he's the best player available then they will draft him. It's that simple.
Aww freaking out, that was harsh dude it's all in good fun though.

Just some scenarios, we got a lot of time on our hands.

This is the best thread in the Rangers forum. We all rock.

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Aww freaking out, that was harsh dude it's all in good fun though.

Just some scenarios, we got a lot of time on our hands.

This is the best thread in the Rangers forum. We all rock.
Still haven't seen anything yet. Wait for Bluenote to start throwing out his long posts with the propellers. Then you know its on.

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Still haven't seen anything yet. Wait for Bluenote to start throwing out his long posts with the propellers. Then you know its on.


We'll debate this an that but in the end our scouting staff has done a good job in my eyes lately, I trust they'll pick a good one.

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I believe that, if Clark and staff are set on Johansen, they will find a way to get him. I think both TB and Carolina are potential trade partners, and both could use the addition of a young D-man. Also, I believe ATL is likely to take Niederreiter. So, to me, it comes down to MIN.


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There's no reason to start freaking out about mock drafts now. The draft isn't until the end of June. Who knows what'll happen between now and then. It's just silly to be freaking out about Tarasenko not wanting to come over. That's why they interview guys and scout them. Clark won't draft him if he doesn't want to play in the NHL. If he does want to play in the NHL and Clark thinks he's the best player available then they will draft him. It's that simple.
Agreed. A few weeks ago Kabanov would've been in this conversation.

Things change... and more importantly, things change a lot in 2+ months.

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Tom Kuhnhackl - lw. remember this name

hes been injured some this year playing in germany against guys much older but the buzz is hes the german equivalent to nino- the best player from his country. he comes from a very prominent family in germany. hes a 1st round pick and is coming over to play for windsor next year.

had he not gotten injured, he would have come over to na this season and played on a stacked spitfires team. too bad, he would have been mentioned in the top 20 had he come over.

hes got great size @ 6'2, tons of speed and plays a very solid 2 way game.

his father is a hockey legend in germany and is a pretty huge guy. scouts are saying this kid may well be 6'3 or 6'4 like his dad.

this guy has some real talent.

2008-2009 Germany World Under 17 HC 5 4 3 7 2

Germany U18 WJC-18 6 1 1 2 4

"He's a world-class talent and to add him to our lineup is huge, said Warren Rychel, the Spitfires GM

http://www.windsorstar.com/sports/Ku...846/story.html

another one of those guys flying under the radar a bit but his name may be mentioned on the 1st day of the draft.

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ODC, I've been interested in Kuehnhackl, its not every year a German player is ranked in the top 10 European prospects. I just don't know anything about him. If we had a 3rd rounder I'd consider him, big risk, but big payoff if it works.

Not so sure I like these European kids who come from a lot of money, remember Michal Sivek?

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ODC, I've been interested in Kuehnhackl, its not every year a German player is ranked in the top 10 European prospects. I just don't know anything about him. If we had a 3rd rounder I'd consider him, big risk, but big payoff if it works.

Not so sure I like these European kids who come from a lot of money, remember Michal Sivek?
not that concerned with his fathers status or the families wealth really, but his injuries really kept him from being seen and thus drafted much higher.

a friend of mine who lives in austria has been talking about this kid since he was 15.

had he come over this year and played on that loaded windsor team, he may have been the 7th potential 1st rounder to come from that roster.

theres not much film to speak of on this kid

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You guys want to continue this in the "Rangers select 10th" thread, or would you prefer I move the last X posts to a new thread?

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You guys want to continue this in the "Rangers select 10th" thread, or would you prefer I move the last X posts to a new thread?
mod, if you dont mind, can we continue this in a new 2010 draft sticky ?

since we have a while yet till the actual draft, this may be the thing to do.

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We'll debate this an that but in the end our scouting staff has done a good job in my eyes lately, I trust they'll pick a good one.
With the Rangers out of the playoffs I expect an extra good Bluenote Draft Extravaganza this year. Maybe get it out a little earlier too, something worthwhile to distract us from our misery.

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Yeah, I don't like the two teams picking in front of us, either could grab Johan or trade their pick to a team who's drafting a bit behind us.

I don't have a problem with Granlund's size he's an amazing talent, so is Pulkkinen. Two teams are gonna be happy they picked them.
After 0+4 and 2+2 in Finlands 7-2 win over Latvia in the U18 WJC two days ago, Granlund and Pulkkinen continued with 2+1 and 2+2 when Finland beat Slovakia 5-2 today. So 2+5 for Granlund in 2 games and 4+4 for Pulkkinen.

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Sting, I just wanted to thank you again for putting the effort into making this thread.

Between you, me, LoFFeN and Karan, we have:

1) The best prospects thread
2) The best draft thread
3) The best GDTs


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With the Rangers out of the playoffs I expect an extra good Bluenote Draft Extravaganza this year. Maybe get it out a little earlier too, something worthwhile to distract us from our misery.
I'll get a good one together, no doubt. I get some good info from time to time, and some tips on players our scouting department are seeking info about. Few years back my draft preview was the first to mention Derek Stepan

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After 0+4 and 2+2 in Finlands 7-2 win over Latvia in the U18 WJC two days ago, Granlund and Pulkkinen continued with 2+1 and 2+2 when Finland beat Slovakia 5-2 today. So 2+5 for Granlund in 2 games and 4+4 for Pulkkinen.
Yeah I saw the stat sheet, those guys are pretty fantastic offensive machines. Granlund seems like a natural, but Pulkkinen is making waves of his own.

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Sting, I just wanted to thank you again for putting the effort into making this thread.

Between you, me, LoFFeN and Karan, we have:

1) The best prospects thread
2) The best draft thread
3) The best GDTs

Seconded ! Great job as always you guys.

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Sting, I just wanted to thank you again for putting the effort into making this thread.

Between you, me, LoFFeN and Karan, we have:

1) The best prospects thread
2) The best draft thread
3) The best GDTs

Now we just need the best team to complete it!


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Is it wrong that I still want Kabanov?

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04-15-2010, 03:38 PM
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Is it wrong that I still want Kabanov?
Yep. Not at #10.

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Is it wrong that I still want Kabanov?
With our first pick? Yes.

With our second pick? Maybe.

At 10, there will be multiple players with potential comparable to Kabanov, but no "external issues."

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