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04-17-2010, 06:09 PM
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by the way, HHH, I saw your note about showing you my rankings and I was going to do it, but if you want to compare your votes to something to see how "off" you were, look at the final standings, not my votes.

(besides, turns out you weren't very off, were you?)

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04-17-2010, 06:11 PM
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I just couldn't put Malmo over any of the other teams in that division, even though I like his team and a lot of his players (I had a handful of his guys my first go-around in the last ATD and grew fond of them...although I finished 8th as well. My team was definitely inferior to his though). Apparently others agreed. I think it just speaks to the toughness of that division more than anything.

I'm not counting anyone out in the playoffs though, I can be swayed by good arguments.

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04-17-2010, 06:13 PM
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i'd sure love to hear what made inglewood and regina last in their divisions!
To be honest, I'd love to hear what made Inglewood first, since to me they weren't even close. Though I didn't have it last either, but definitely way way closer to last than first.

Tidewater 2nd and St.John's 6th place also greatly surprised me.

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04-17-2010, 06:19 PM
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To be honest, I'd love to hear what made Inglewood first, since to me they weren't even close. Though I didn't have it last either, but definitely way way closer to last than first.

Tidewater 2nd and St.John's 6th place also greatly surprised me.
I agree on the bolded, but I did have Inglewood ranked 2nd in that division. I thought they were quite clearly one of the best teams in the division.

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To be honest, I'd love to hear what made Inglewood first, since to me they weren't even close. Though I didn't have it last either, but definitely way way closer to last than first.

Tidewater 2nd and St.John's 6th place also greatly surprised me.
I love that you can be outspoken about the rankings. I wish I was more like that.

I'll be honest, I voted Inglewood first. Poor goaltending (among the worst in the draft) but that collection of top-6 forwards is unreal. His 3rd pairing also features an excellent #4 defenseman and an average one.

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04-17-2010, 06:24 PM
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The RedGawks suprised me as well. Tidewater and St.john's were a bit suprising to me too, but not crazily so.

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I agree on the bolded, but I did have Inglewood ranked 2nd in that division. I thought they were quite clearly one of the best teams in the division.
I think they were too. Such oustanding depth.

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04-17-2010, 06:32 PM
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I love that you can be outspoken about the rankings. I wish I was more like that.

I'll be honest, I voted Inglewood first. Poor goaltending (among the worst in the draft) but that collection of top-6 forwards is unreal. His 3rd pairing also features an excellent #4 defenseman and an average one.
I had Inglewood 6th. The gaps between teams were minimal there for me though - as in pretty much all division save the Robson, which had 1st and 3rd overall teams for me, yet also the two worst teams and two of the only three overall that actually ended up with a negative grade from me.

Inglewood's collection of top 6 forwards is great, but doesn't completely overshadow mediocre defense, weak goaltending and the Belak-level joke that is Sedin on 4th line. I think it's pretty good team still, but certainly stretch for 1st. Much less of a stretch than Tidewater at 2nd, though. Way much less.

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04-17-2010, 06:38 PM
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I had Inglewood 6th. The gaps between teams were minimal there for me though - as in pretty much all division save the Robson, which had 1st and 3rd overall teams for me, yet also the two worst teams and two of the only three overall that actually ended up with a negative grade from me.

Inglewood's collection of top 6 forwards is great, but doesn't completely overshadow mediocre defense, weak goaltending and the Belak-level joke that is Sedin on 4th line. I think it's pretty good team still, but certainly stretch for 1st. Much less of a stretch than Tidewater at 2nd, though. Way much less.
I'm surprised that you think the defense is mediocre. at the top-end it is about average. At the bottom, it's incredible.

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04-17-2010, 06:38 PM
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Inglewood's collection of top 6 forwards is great, but doesn't completely overshadow mediocre defense, weak goaltending and the Belak-level joke that is Sedin on 4th line
Art Ross winners are Belak-level now? Sedin isn't a classical fourth liner, may not be playing with ideal linemates, and possibly should have been introduce to the ATD as a spare, but his Art Ross should cement ATD status.

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He's not a guy I'd personally select for a bottom-six role either... but I wouldn't start a 'revoke the joke' campaign, either

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I'm loving this already. Just like the NHL first round, the ATD first round is where all the action is.

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04-17-2010, 06:46 PM
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Art Ross winners are Belak-level now? Sedin isn't a classical fourth liner, may not be playing with ideal linemates, and possibly should have been introduce to the ATD as a spare, but his Art Ross should cement ATD status.
I'd rather wait one more season to see if he can even come close to this season's production - or if this season was just one huge fluke, which I think is more likely.

ATD spare, OK. 4th liner though? Hell no.

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I'm surprised that you think the defense is mediocre. at the top-end it is about average. At the bottom, it's incredible.
I'd say good at bottom and below average at top. But it's matter of opinion.

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The top end of your defense matters a lot more then the bottom end does.

Depth is nice, especially for deep playoff runs, but the bottom pairing guys don't have nearly as much of an impact as the top two pairings. It's not even close.

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I'd rather wait one more season to see if he can even come close to this season's production - or if this season was just one huge fluke, which I think is more likely.

ATD spare, OK. 4th liner though? Hell no.
I think even that is unfair, considering that was his 4th time in the top-10 in assists. Only six available players can say that, two are WW2 players, and three have serious question marks surronding intangibles.

Only six others have even done it three times. one is a WW2 player, two of them had less to do with it than a more talented linemate, and three were from a time of slightly lesser competition.

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I think even that is unfair, considering that was his 4th time in the top-10 in assists. Only six available players can say that, two are WW2 players, and three have serious question marks surronding intangibles.

Only six others have even done it three times. one is a WW2 player, two of them had less to do with it than a more talented linemate, and three were from a time of slightly lesser competition.
Like Sedin then?

It's not that he's not skilled enough for ATD, he is. It's that he's the antithesis to a 4th line player.

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Like Sedin then?

It's not that he's not skilled enough for ATD, he is. It's that he's the antithesis to a 4th line player.
Depends on how you define "4th line player"...

He's a highly skilled offensive player who can play responsibly in his own zone as well.

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Like Sedin then?

It's not that he's not skilled enough for ATD, he is. It's that he's the antithesis to a 4th line player.
No, much more than Sedin. I realize he's not a defensive or physical star, and he doesn't scream intensity at you. but he's sure no Janney/Savard/Allison either, is he?

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No, much more than Sedin. I realize he's not a defensive or physical star, and he doesn't scream intensity at you. but he's sure no Janney/Savard/Allison either, is he?
Allison might actually be a reasonable comparable, if he had twice the speed he had and was smaller.

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..... yeah, it's probably better that these didn't count towards the final results.

i'd sure love to hear what made inglewood and regina last in their divisions!
Regina is in astrong division

i rank them quite high overall

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Regina is in astrong division

i rank them quite high overall
I didn't realize that 2nd list was the overall listing. My apologies.

It's kinda crazy that you had 8 teams ahead of me, and six of them were the teams in my division!

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04-18-2010, 02:29 AM
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Regina is in a strong division

i rank them quite high overall
You must think the Jim Robson really sucks to rank the Fusiliers 1st in the division but 16th overall!

Anyways...

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You must think the Jim Robson really sucks to rank the Fusiliers 1st in the division but 16th overall!

Anyways...
nyah nyah, we're better than you

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Jim Robson Division Winner:



The rest of the Jim Robson Regular Season Standings:

2. Smiths Falls Fusiliers
3. Montreal Shamrocks
4. Kenora Thistles
5. Springfield Indians
6. Quebec Nordiques
7. California Golden Seals
8. Green Bay Gamblers
Didn't expect to finish last, maybe next time i should make more firendly reviews .

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Looking over the match-up threads I'm struck by the competitiveness of the series. More so than ever before.

There is parity in ATD 2010 just as there is in today's NHL.

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