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04-19-2010, 08:54 AM
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Do you still believe ?

Will the Red Wings win his series ?

I think they will step their game up, this team is too good to lose in first round.

Yes, I believe !

And you ?

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04-19-2010, 09:15 AM
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04-19-2010, 09:32 AM
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04-19-2010, 09:47 AM
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Wings in 6. I'm still very confident.

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04-19-2010, 09:58 AM
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Im very pessimistic right now I think they CAN win and the RW fan in me says they will but the realistic hockey fan in me believes dey WON'T. I vote no just on that fact. But God i hope dey do win

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04-19-2010, 09:58 AM
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as long as Z, Franzen and Lidstrom still play on the team, I believe.

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04-19-2010, 10:01 AM
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Wings in 6. I'm still very confident.
The past 3 years more times than not they've risen to the occasion. The way the Wings have played in their losses you can look as if they were just laying down. I cannot fathom the Wings (even in a loss) just rolling over and losing. I'm fully confident the Wings will win game(s) 4 and 5.

The Wings are down 1-2, it's not that dire of a situation. Especially when many problems were self induced. All due respect to the Phoenix and if they win, it's them winning. But, the Wings haven't helped themselves.

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04-19-2010, 10:20 AM
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Will the Red Wings win his series ?

I think they will step their game up, this team is too good to lose in first round.

Yes, I believe !

And you ?
That's exactly the reason why I don't think they have it this year - too much of the time, it's clear that THEY believe they're too good to lose, no matter how lazy or sloppy they are.

If they manage to make it out of this series, another team will pick them off. I haven't seen anything that makes me think they can keep their focus and their foot on the gas pedal for a whole game, much less a whole series.

It would have done this team some good to lose a couple games at the end of the season. If they had had a meltdown against Columbus like the Hawks did, they might have learned their lesson (like the Hawks did) and actually showed up to play every shift in the playoffs. Instead they half-assed their way to some wins against lousy teams, got sloppy, and didn't pay the price for it. Well, they're paying for it now and they're going to be golfing in a week if they don't wake the hell up and start playing their ***** off.

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04-19-2010, 10:23 AM
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Hell only thing I can do as a fan is to support and believe. I will do my part.

I'm gonna ace my exam.. and Wings are gonna break through the minefield.

Go wings.

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04-19-2010, 10:32 AM
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I believe they can still win this series, win the next one it's 2-2 and we can win in Phoenix. Do I believe this team can win the Cup? Nah..even if we get past Phoenix, our sloppy play is bound to catch up with us eventually.

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04-19-2010, 10:35 AM
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The important question is do the players still believe.


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04-19-2010, 11:00 AM
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I think they can win, but it's getting harder with each loss. And if it's 3-1 say good night.

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04-19-2010, 11:05 AM
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Are you fookin kidding me? 1:2 is nothing.
If the series was 0:3 then this thread would make some sense.

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04-19-2010, 11:11 AM
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I'm going to abstain from voting in this poll. The Wings are playing exactly like I expected. I've said for months that Detroit just isn't that good of a team, and that posters here were overrating them (as were certain hockey analysts, Detroit radio personalities, etc).

IMO, this series can go either way. That said, if Detroit loses game four it is OVER.

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04-19-2010, 11:12 AM
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Are you fookin kidding me? 1:2 is nothing.
If the series was 0:3 then this thread would make some sense.
Have you been watching the games? They stopped playing halfway through game 3. That's what has people down. Not the 2-1 deficit, but the way they have looked for the majority of the series. Almost like they figured they had the game won when Doan went out and they just mailed it in from that point.

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Have you been watching the games? They stopped playing halfway through game 3. That's what has people down. Not the 2-1 deficit, but the way they have looked for the majority of the series. Almost like they figured they had the game won when Doan went out and they just mailed it in from that point.
Detroit didn't show up for much of game 1, either. Even in game 2 when we scored 7 the defense didn't show up, and most of the offense came from one line. There's a lot to be worried about, and this series could very easily be 3 - 0.

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Double: I'm curious as to how you came up with that assessment considering how well the Wings played after the Olympic break.

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04-19-2010, 11:27 AM
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Detroit didn't show up for much of game 1, either. Even in game 2 when we scored 7 the defense didn't show up, and most of the offense came from one line. There's a lot to be worried about, and this series could very easily be 3 - 0.
Your assessment of the games is what gives me the most hope.

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04-19-2010, 11:30 AM
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I'd actually like for the Wings to have time to rest up, recuperate, train properly and do whatever they have to do physically, mentally and emotionally for a good run next year.

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Double: I'm curious as to how you came up with that assessment considering how well the Wings played after the Olympic break.
My opinion is based on the other 75% of the season, and I chalk up the post Olympic break as a "miracle run" of sorts. Really, a team that struggled to make the playoffs for most of the season (and spent much of that time on the outside looking in) should not be considered a favorite based on a quarter of the season. Injuries, fatigue, burnout... those are just excuses to explain away poor play. The level of this team's play has been in a marked decline for a while now, having peaked a couple seasons ago. Occasional defensive lapses have turned into "not showing up" for entire periods and games at a time.

If someone makes an objective assessment of the situation I think they'll agree with me. The roster isn't as deep, the stars are aging and less productive, and other teams have risen to a level that Detroit just isn't on anymore (although Phoenix is not one of those teams). It shouldn't be a surprise, then, if we lose in the first or second round.

Again, I think we can win this series but I don't think we ever should have been considered a favorite over the Coyotes. They have home ice, made some nice additions are the deadline, and have a good goalie (who basically won three rounds while in Anaheim). As I posted in the playoff speculation thread, I wasn't looking forward to playing any of our possible first round opponents. All of the top seeds in the West were capable of sending the Wings golfing early.

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Your assessment of the games is what gives me the most hope.
Well, I guess if you're hoping the team "wakes up" and starts to play like they did the last 20 games of the regular season then yeah, you could view my post as encouraging. However, I believe that the "miracle run" is over and the team has fallen back to their expected playing level. You have to admit, what we've seen in the last 3 games is a lot like what we saw from October to February, no? We could get hot again. I'm just not holding my breath.

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Well, I guess if you're hoping the team "wakes up" and starts to play like they did the last 20 games of the regular season then yeah, you could view my post as encouraging. However, I believe that the "miracle run" is over and the team has fallen back to their expected playing level. You have to admit, what we've seen in the last 3 games is a lot like what we saw from October to February, no? We could get hot again. I'm just not holding my breath.
No, your assessment is the opposite of what you've been saying all season. If the Wings just 'aren't that good' then it isn't a matter of them not showing up, it would be a matter of them not being that good and Phoenix being better.

If the Wings lose the series and what we take out of it is that the Wings merely didn't show up that's a hell of a lot different than just being inferior.

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No, your assessment is the opposite of what you've been saying all season. If the Wings just 'aren't that good' then it isn't a matter of them not showing up, it would be a matter of them not being that good and Phoenix being better.

If the Wings lose the series and what we take out of it is that the Wings merely didn't show up that's a hell of a lot different than just being inferior.
I'm not being inconsistent, it is a matter of outlook. Are the Wings "not showing up" at times, or are those the times they're playing normally? Are the Wings "showing up" at other times, or are those the times they're playing above their heads?

If a team starts to "not show up" a majority of the time, can you honestly say that's the case... or is it just that they're no longer as good as you expect them to be?

Furthermore, I assert that inconsistency is a characteristic of good but not great teams. If the Wings are consistently inconsistent, that then backs up my opinion that they've fallen a notch or two.

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I'm not being inconsistent, it is a matter of outlook. Are the Wings "not showing up" at times, or are those the times they're playing normally? Are the Wings "showing up" at other times, or are those the times they're playing above their heads?

If a team starts to "not show up" a majority of the time, can you honestly say that's the case... or is it just that they're no longer as good as you expect them to be?

Furthermore, I assert that inconsistency is a characteristic of good but not great teams. If the Wings are consistently inconsistent, that then backs up my opinion that they've fallen a notch or two.
Well whatever, but to me it looks like you're talking out of both sides of your mouth. If a team 'isn't showing up' to me that says they're much better than how they played. If they're not good, they're just not good.

I guess it's semantics, but the fact that we've seen some plays that rarely ever happen tells me there's more to give.

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04-19-2010, 01:03 PM
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This poll is a bit premature. Wings are going back to Phoenix tied 2-2. DRWs have faced adversity and overcome all year. What makes being down 2-1 any different?

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With the way they're playing now? No.. But I know they're better than what they've shown so far.. Watching the Wings is extremely frustrating right now. They're making mistakes they shouldn't be making..

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