The way I understand it is that if Huet goes to Europe the Hawks will still pay him it just won't count against their cap.
well then my question is again, is Chicago's ownership ok w/ paying a guy $5.6mil not to play for their team?
i know Rocky's a far cry from Dollar Bill, but that's a lot of dough to choke on.
well then my question is again, is Chicago's ownership ok w/ paying a guy $5.6mil not to play for their team?
i know Rocky's a far cry from Dollar Bill, but that's a lot of dough to choke on.
i don't think there is a better option. if they buy him out, they have to lose either Sharp or Bolland, or 2 players like Brouwer and Kopecky. If they keep him on the NHL roster, they have to move both Sharp and Bolland.
if they want to still be competitive, they have to bury Huet in the minors or in Europe. Whatever option, he is still getting his money.
i don't think there is a better option. if they buy him out, they have to lose either Sharp or Bolland, or 2 players like Brouwer and Kopecky. If they keep him on the NHL roster, they have to move both Sharp and Bolland.
if they want to still be competitive, they have to bury Huet in the minors or in Europe. Whatever option, he is still getting his money.
And there hasn't been a dismantling of the team. Now choice is match Hammers offer sheet and lose someone else or don't sign him and keep evevyone else. The reality of there cap problem are so obvious to everyone except for the Chicago fans. Hey don't feel bad it's the cost of winning in the cap era, we have been there got the tee shirt and you have the tee shirt also.
And there hasn't been a dismantling of the team. Now choice is match Hammers offer sheet and lose someone else or don't sign him and keep evevyone else. The reality of there cap problem are so obvious to everyone except for the Chicago fans. Hey don't feel bad it's the cost of winning in the cap era, we have been there got the tee shirt and you have the tee shirt also.
On what planet is Skille getting 1.5 mil? His qualifiying offer was 850k range and he hasn't proven anything in NHL
If Hawks match and Niemi get 2.5 mil the only way we can keep them is if we move Kopecky and Reasoner
Skille's cap hit was 1.3M last season. Until yesterday, I didn't 1/3 of that was bonuses--sorry.
Still, I don't think the Hawks are going to sign him for ~850k, since that was his current salary. It's hard to make the argument you're going to promote him to your third line, yet say he's not due for a raise.
True, that was a perfect opportunity to get some cap space, but looks like they rate Hjalmarsson high enough to keep him. I wonder who they are looking to move. Huet?
True, that was a perfect opportunity to get some cap space, but looks like they rate Hjalmarsson high enough to keep him. I wonder who they are looking to move. Huet?
I think they had to move Huet before, so now they will have to move someone else.
They're trying to keep the D together at the expense of the forwards. They might have a huge dropoff in Goals For next season.
So who do they move now? It'll have to be one of Hossa, Bolland, or Sharp I'd think unless they have a taker for Campbell's contract. Maybe they plan on sending both Huet AND Campbell to the AHL/Europe now, but I doubt it.
So who do they move now? It'll have to be one of Hossa, Bolland, or Sharp I'd think unless they have a taker for Campbell's contract. Maybe they plan on sending both Huet AND Campbell to the AHL/Europe now, but I doubt it.
That doesn't help them until the season starts though. I suppose all they really have left is Niemi so perhaps they can wait.
The Hossa signing too. Who would you rather have, Hossa at 5m for a lifetime or Sharp at 4m?
Hossa for 5 and Sharp for 3.9 are solid deals. Kopecky could be moved to sign Niemi or Niemi moved in favor of somebody cheaper. That's pretty much it unless Niemi takes less than 2.5. The Hawks are operating as if Huet is not going to be on the team so his contract is not relevant.
I'm looking forward to some of the younger guys stepping up.
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Originally Posted by jacK
well then my question is again, is Chicago's ownership ok w/ paying a guy $5.6mil not to play for their team?
i know Rocky's a far cry from Dollar Bill, but that's a lot of dough to choke on.
It appears the team is making some serious dough for the first time in a while. If there was no cap I think they would have resigned Buff, Steeg, Ladd and so on.
If they move Huet down and don't sign Niemi, then they are pretty much in the clear to fill their roster with rookies and scrubs and be under the cap. I don't know most of the names I added, I am just adding low salary guys to give them a 22 man roster.
FORWARDS
Jonathan Toews ($6.300m) / Patrick Kane ($6.300m) / Marian Hossa ($5.275m)
Patrick Sharp ($3.900m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Tomas Kopecky ($1.200m)
Kyle Beach ($1.171m) / Marty Reasoner ($1.150m) / Troy Brouwer ($1.025m)
Viktor Stalberg ($0.850m) / Brandon Bollig ($0.545m) / Jake Dowell ($0.525m)
Robert Klinkhammer ($0.500m)
DEFENSEMEN
Brian Campbell ($7.143m) / Duncan Keith ($5.538m)
Brent Seabrook ($3.500m) / Niklas Hjalmarsson ($3.500m)
Ivan Vishnevskiy ($0.822m) / Jonathan Carlsson ($0.565m)
John Scott ($0.512m)
GOALTENDERS
Corey Crawford ($0.800m) / Hannu Toivonen ($0.550m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
ROSTER: 22; CAP: $59.4m; CARRY-OVER PENALTY: $4.158m
PAYROLL: $59.204m; BONUSES: $0.390m; CAP ROOM: $0.586m
But if they keep either goalie, they would have to make some big move.
If they move Huet down and don't sign Niemi, then they are pretty much in the clear to fill their roster with rookies and scrubs and be under the cap. I don't know most of the names I added, I am just adding low salary guys to give them a 22 man roster.
FORWARDS
Jonathan Toews ($6.300m) / Patrick Kane ($6.300m) / Marian Hossa ($5.275m)
Patrick Sharp ($3.900m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Tomas Kopecky ($1.200m)
Kyle Beach ($1.171m) / Marty Reasoner ($1.150m) / Troy Brouwer ($1.025m)
Viktor Stalberg ($0.850m) / Brandon Bollig ($0.545m) / Jake Dowell ($0.525m)
Robert Klinkhammer ($0.500m)
DEFENSEMEN
Brian Campbell ($7.143m) / Duncan Keith ($5.538m)
Brent Seabrook ($3.500m) / Niklas Hjalmarsson ($3.500m)
Ivan Vishnevskiy ($0.822m) / Jonathan Carlsson ($0.565m)
John Scott ($0.512m)
GOALTENDERS
Corey Crawford ($0.800m) / Hannu Toivonen ($0.550m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
ROSTER: 22; CAP: $59.4m; CARRY-OVER PENALTY: $4.158m
PAYROLL: $59.204m; BONUSES: $0.390m; CAP ROOM: $0.586m
But if they keep either goalie, they would have to make some big move.
Yup....and that line up above would be very easy, compared to the team that ended up in June, to play against as you can key on one line and you are fine.
Yup....and that line up above would be very easy, compared to the team that ended up in June, to play against as you can key on one line and you are fine.
Those wouldn't be the actual lines. Towes, Sharp, and Bolland most likely would all center separate lines.
Hossa for 5 and Sharp for 3.9 are solid deals. Kopecky could be moved to sign Niemi or Niemi moved in favor of somebody cheaper. That's pretty much it unless Niemi takes less than 2.5. The Hawks are operating as if Huet is not going to be on the team so his contract is not relevant.
I'm looking forward to some of the younger guys stepping up.
It appears the team is making some serious dough for the first time in a while. If there was no cap I think they would have resigned Buff, Steeg, Ladd and so on.
They aren't bad deals (though I'm not in favor of these "lifetime" deals being thrown about), but Huet and Campbell are bad deals. And having paid Buff $3m+ already was a bad deal. So even though a guy like Hossa is on a good sale price that doesn't mean you can afford them.
So who do they move now? It'll have to be one of Hossa, Bolland, or Sharp I'd think unless they have a taker for Campbell's contract. Maybe they plan on sending both Huet AND Campbell to the AHL/Europe now, but I doubt it.
Call up NY. One of those two teams might want him. They have a terrible track record of preposterous contracts for average players (Redden, anyone?)
Those wouldn't be the actual lines. Towes, Sharp, and Bolland most likely would all center separate lines.
Which creates absolute chaos if one or two guys goes down.... they won't even be able to get LTIR relief if the injuries aren't serious enough. They could potentially be icing 17 men teams.
So who do they move now? It'll have to be one of Hossa, Bolland, or Sharp I'd think unless they have a taker for Campbell's contract. Maybe they plan on sending both Huet AND Campbell to the AHL/Europe now, but I doubt it.
Huet will not be hitting the cap next year. Chicago can then sign Niemi to a roughly 3 million cap hit deal, give or take a little and then add crawford as backup. This leaves roughly less than 2 million of space left to sign about 3 forwards and 1-2 defensemen. Although it sounds unlikely, it is possible for them to fill up that space with small short term contracts to atleast get through this year so that the 4+ million in bonuses goes away next year.
With some tweaking, they can make it work and not have to trade or get rid of more people. But talk about a HUGE lack of depth on their bottom 2 forward lines and bottom 2 D pairings. Chicagos top players will have a TON of ice time this year and be prone to injuries.
Huet will not be hitting the cap next year. Chicago can then sign Niemi to a roughly 3 million cap hit deal, give or take a little and then add crawford as backup.
My question is, how much money is arbitration going to award Niemi? He played 39 games and went 26-7-4. He had a 2.25 GAA(4th in the league), and had 7 shutouts(3rd). In the playoffs he was top 5 in Save%, Shutouts, and Wins. He was 6th in the playoffs with a 2.63 GAA. I think he also won a Stanley Cup.
To my knowledge of how arbitration works, he's going to get just about whatever he's asking for. I assume Chicago tried to low-ball him because of their cap situation.
If he's asking for $4 or even $5 million/year, does he have a chance to get even close to that?
