From what I've read it seems to be mostly marijuana / prescription drugs? Not exactly the hugest of deals. Though the sheer scale of the scandal is surprising.
From what I've read it seems to be mostly marijuana / prescription drugs? Not exactly the hugest of deals. Though the sheer scale of the scandal is surprising.
I honestly don't care about pot usage. Abusing prescription drugs though....
Yeah i have a friend that ended up in the hospital his first year in college because he took too much acid... kept having minor hallucinations for at least 6 months
i smoke pot every once in awhile and drink but i dont **** around with anything more than that
Honestly, acid should be considered in the same group of chemicals as THC. That sucks for your friend but I don't personally know anyone who has had anything like that happen to them. If it comes from a trusted source (this would be easier if de-criminalized) and taken in moderate dosage it's no more dangerous than taking a monster rip on a bong. Longer lasting and different but definitely not dangerous. I'm a fully functioning member of society and if pressed I'm not sure I could count on both hands how many times I've dropped a small bit of acid. Forward-thinking doctors and therapists on the west coast are prescribing LSD for all sorts of mental and social ailments.
Honestly, acid should be considered in the same group of chemicals as THC. That sucks for your friend but I don't personally know anyone who has had anything like that happen to them. If it comes from a trusted source (this would be easier if de-criminalized) and taken in moderate dosage it's no more dangerous than taking a monster rip on a bong. Longer lasting and different but definitely not dangerous. I'm a fully functioning member of society and if pressed I'm not sure I could count on both hands how many times I've dropped a small bit of acid. Forward-thinking doctors and therapists on the west coast are prescribing LSD for all sorts of mental and social ailments.
/legalize hallucinogens rant
Let's start with legalizing weed... You can even find cops to advocate that they would rather deal with a stoner than a drunk.
Let's start with legalizing weed... You can even find cops to advocate that they would rather deal with a stoner than a drunk.
The point is that mind altering drugs are categorically different from meth, coke, crack, and heroin. The United States government feels differently based on...well, pretty much no legitimate data of any kind. There is a stigma attached to certain chemicals that is certainly warranted and some that couldn't be further from the truth. The ancient Greeks, the society that served as the basis for the rest of later Western civilization, routinely experimented with mind altering chemicals. Thank god (lol?) Aristotle and Socrates weren't prudes about temporary ego death.
The point is that mind altering drugs are categorically different from meth, coke, crack, and heroin. The United States government feels differently based on...well, pretty much no legitimate data of any kind. There is a stigma attached to certain chemicals that is certainly warranted and some that couldn't be further from the truth. The ancient Greeks, the society that served as the basis for the rest of later Western civilization, routinely experimented with mind altering chemicals. Thank god (lol?) Aristotle and Socrates weren't prudes about temporary ego death.
Yeah, I guess I'm ok with being that guy.
Well i agree with you to some extent but i have seen people do crazy **** on mind altering drugs(frequently volunteered to be the babysitter for friends), Weed is really only illegal because the tobacco companies don't want a rival.
Portugal however is a prime example of why it is effective to legalize drugs im way to lazy to go look up the statistics about the decrease in drug use there since they just said **** it lets legalize everything
I'm on the fence about mind altering drugs being legal simply put.
I understand the sentiment of someone who hasn't partaken, especially with being sober around someone on something. If I based my desire to drink based on that criteria though I probably wouldn't enjoy a good beer the way I do.
Also, marijuana is a mind altering drug. Obviously, these things are a range of intensity but simply put it's pretty hypocritical to say one mind altering drug is ok and others are taboo.
Cannabis is considered an hallucinogen; different word same thing. The fact that you (and many others) make a distinction underlines the fallacious information out and about.
In any case this TCU story is pretty weird. I'm a little surprised that many athletes would be willing to risk so much.
i considered adding that cannabis is technically a hallucinogen but then i didn't
the reasons im wary about legalizing other hallucinogen's is the strength of substances, it not like your going to accidentally run into the middle of the highway because you don't know whats going on after smoking pot, and i don't think my opinion on this is because of misinformation but from personal experiences being around people on bad trips
While I've certainly heard the arguments supporting LSD usage from some surprising but well known camps, I also hope you are not purporting the legalization of all mind altering drugs. Being that College Station is a small town, pretty much everything gets reported in the paper and I can't tell you how many times there as been a report of some crazy ****, and immediately without any further reading it was obvious what the person had taken, PCP. I certainly believe that not all drugs are created equal and that the tendency of certain drugs to dramatically increase the chances of someone to harm themselves, others, and property emphatically rule out (at least in my mind) the arguments someone could have for legalizing it.
Sometimes when I do smoke I forget weed is illegal because the whole thing seems so absurd to me. It's a ****ing sham. Cigarettes are so much worse for you, drinking probably is too. If you smoke a crapload of pot you'll fall asleep, if you drink a crapload of liquor you'll puke violently and get your stomach pumped and be hungover for the next two days. One seems much more dramatic and dangerous than the other.
I'm a huge beer drinker, I love trying new beers, I have nothing against alcohol. That being said, I can't think of a good reason why the welfare of society would be impacted with the legalization of weed. It'd pretty much create a new industry nationwide and bring on some mad tax money as far as I'm concerned.
Sometimes when I do smoke I forget weed is illegal because the whole thing seems so absurd to me. It's a ****ing sham. Cigarettes are so much worse for you, drinking probably is too. If you smoke a crapload of pot you'll fall asleep, if you drink a crapload of liquor you'll puke violently and get your stomach pumped and be hungover for the next two days. One seems much more dramatic and dangerous than the other.
I'm a huge beer drinker, I love trying new beers, I have nothing against alcohol. That being said, I can't think of a good reason why the welfare of society would be impacted with the legalization of weed. It'd pretty much create a new industry nationwide and bring on some mad tax money as far as I'm concerned.
Totally agree. I would much rather be able to go into a store and be taxed than go through the other various options.
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While I've certainly heard the arguments supporting LSD usage from some surprising but well known camps, I also hope you are not purporting the legalization of all mind altering drugs. Being that College Station is a small town, pretty much everything gets reported in the paper and I can't tell you how many times there as been a report of some crazy ****, and immediately without any further reading it was obvious what the person had taken, PCP. I certainly believe that not all drugs are created equal and that the tendency of certain drugs to dramatically increase the chances of someone to harm themselves, others, and property emphatically rule out (at least in my mind) the arguments someone could have for legalizing it.
PCP is a whole other thing aside from what I'm talking about and should definitely NOT be legalized.
Sometimes when I do smoke I forget weed is illegal because the whole thing seems so absurd to me. It's a ****ing sham. Cigarettes are so much worse for you, drinking probably is too. If you smoke a crapload of pot you'll fall asleep, if you drink a crapload of liquor you'll puke violently and get your stomach pumped and be hungover for the next two days. One seems much more dramatic and dangerous than the other.
I'm a huge beer drinker, I love trying new beers, I have nothing against alcohol. That being said, I can't think of a good reason why the welfare of society would be impacted with the legalization of weed. It'd pretty much create a new industry nationwide and bring on some mad tax money as far as I'm concerned.
Completely agree with you. One way to stop cartels from smuggling weed into the US is to make it legal. The only reason the Govt. has not made it legal except for those people with medical prescriptions is they think they can't tax it when they can. I remember reading that Colorado eliminated half of the states debt in the first few years of having pot legalized.
I heard about this on Dateline episode and it explains that Ketamine (horse tranquilizer) is being used to treat depression and it has had fantastic results. Obviously its not going to be made up of exactly what the "Illegal" version is made with. It offers hope for those who have suffered from manic depression and have tried all sorts of drugs to fix it. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...epression.html
Pot won't be legal until the older generations that still believe in the negative stigma die off and our generation is in its 50s. Of course we still won't let our kids smoke it
Pot won't be legal until the older generations that still believe in the negative stigma die off and our generation is in its 50s. Of course we still won't let our kids smoke it
As long as you don't get caught in Louisiana with drugs you are better off. The laws in that state are insane in regards to possession charges.
Supermarkets, gas stations and restaurants open 24 hours like Whataburger (BOB......mmmm) will flourish with the legalization of pot.
Vofty, to hit back on what you said because I didn't have time to fully respond to your comment before...
As I said, PCP and things of that nature are completely separate from responsible use of LSD, psilocybin, etc. I am surely biased based on my own experiences but that's not to say there isn't more to the discussion than a complete ban on "mind altering drugs." In fact, salvia divinorum is legal and sold at head shops throughout the country and there is no other way to classify it than mind altering. There's really no getting around labeling drinking to a certain point mind altering (what are beer goggles anyway?).
My stance is that these things all exist on a continuum. To label one taboo over another, even if both no show significant health problems to the responsible user, is irresponsible and ignorant. Chemicals put into the body to alter perception have been used by humans since we first happened upon a poisonous mushroom that luckily wasn't quite toxic enough to kill. The only societies known that have no form of intoxicant as part of their traditional culture are those found in the most frigid of regions. Every other culture has some sort of socially acceptable mind/perception altering chemical. To randomly condemn some while allowing others is naive.
Try telling a Peruvian shaman that ayahuasca is bad but alcohol is okay. Ultimately it comes down to the individual and any question of legality should come down to the same standards that we ascribe to alcohol. As soon as your behavior becomes dangerous to those around you it should be treated as such. Classifying LSD or any of the other common psychedelics in the same legal category as meth, crack, heroin, cocaine, etc. is as sophisticated as treating an illness with medieval medical technology.
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I heard about this on Dateline episode and it explains that Ketamine (horse tranquilizer) is being used to treat depression and it has had fantastic results. Obviously its not going to be made up of exactly what the "Illegal" version is made with. It offers hope for those who have suffered from manic depression and have tried all sorts of drugs to fix it. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...epression.html
I heard about this on NPR and it's pretty fascinating. It's a little early to draw any definitive conclusions but I like that doctors are thinking outside the box to treat modern-era, first world problems.
Hated running, especially since they had me doing both mile and mile and a half. My mile would always be ****** because I'd always run it at mile and a half pace since that's what my muscles would get used to every meet.
