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05-09-2004, 10:20 PM
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John Nabokov

What was the deal with this name. A guy from work was telling me that he had wanted to be known as "John" a couple of years ago. Any truth to this?

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He probably wants to Americanize his name.

Another thing I found interesting is that big American flag on the back of his mask... what's up with that?

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He probably wants to Americanize his name.

Another thing I found interesting is that big American flag on the back of his mask... what's up with that?
He likes it here.

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He likes it here.
That's obvious.

Don't you think?


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That's obvious.

Don't you think?


You couldn't cut the sarcasm in my post with a knife?

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With a butter knife possibly.

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Well he really has no country to call his own since he doesn't like Kazakhstan and he's not allowed to be Russian. So he fancies himself American. Sounds fine to me.

About the John thing, could it be a shortened version of his name Evgeni? I don't know any Russian, but aren't e's said like o's? If so that would make the middle syllable of his name sound like John, if you pronounce the g like a j. Just a theory.

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Very interesting and did not know that...

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Well he really has no country to call his own since he doesn't like Kazakhstan and he's not allowed to be Russian. So he fancies himself American. Sounds fine to me.
Not "allowed"? If you mean he's not allowed to play for Russia, the IIHF changed the rules so he actually can play for them now in international competitions.

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About the John thing, could it be a shortened version of his name Evgeni? I don't know any Russian, but aren't e's said like o's? If so that would make the middle syllable of his name sound like John, if you pronounce the g like a j. Just a theory.
I don't have a clue about Russian pronounciation, for all I know it might actually sound close, but I think the rough equivalent of the name Evgeni in English is Eugene. The Russian equivalent of John is Ivan.

I've also read that Nabokov likes being called John, I'd guess he just wants to use something "American". One of the goalies in Tampa's system is an Evgeni, but he gets called Georgie, go figure.

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Well he really has no country to call his own since he doesn't like Kazakhstan and he's not allowed to be Russian. So he fancies himself American. Sounds fine to me.

About the John thing, could it be a shortened version of his name Evgeni? I don't know any Russian, but aren't e's said like o's? If so that would make the middle syllable of his name sound like John, if you pronounce the g like a j. Just a theory.
you're thinking of guys like kovalev and fedorov


that they're really pronounced
kovalyov and fyodorov

that's because those e's that sound funny aren't actually e's they're "yos" - e with 2 dots above, a russian letter. Which is spelled like "yo".


Evgeni is just like that, except really Evgeniy.

And he's a traitor if he wants to be John

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I wondered what the story behind the flag on the back of Nabokov's mask was. I know in Philly for instance, all the players have flags on the back of their helmets, but in San Jose it was just Nabokov. Is there really something to it beyond him just liking it here?

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I read in a name book that Evgeny is a version of Eugene.

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Well he really has no country to call his own since he doesn't like Kazakhstan and he's not allowed to be Russian. So he fancies himself American. Sounds fine to me.

About the John thing, could it be a shortened version of his name Evgeni? I don't know any Russian, but aren't e's said like o's? If so that would make the middle syllable of his name sound like John, if you pronounce the g like a j. Just a theory.
=yo
e=ye

Evgeni uses the plain e's. Also, russian g's are not pronounced like j, always a harder g sound.

Evgeni=Eugene so I'm not really sure why he picked John. Maybe he just likes the name.

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Dude, Eugene Nabokov or John Nabokov...I'll go with John...

Also I believe there was Nabokov sometime in the Russian Revolution...need to check that out.

Could change his name to Vlad?

 
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The story behind the whole "call me John" story is as simple as Kentucky. Back when the Sharks had a minor league affiliate there (Thoroughblades) alot of the fans n media had a tough time pronouncing Evgeni so he made it easy on em and told them to call him John.

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Also I believe there was Nabokov sometime in the Russian Revolution...need to check that out.
There was a Smith or a Brown in the American revolution. Better check that one out, too. Don't forget Lopez in the Spanish Civil War.

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Could change his name to Vlad?
Well Vlad isn't very Russian. The diminutive of Vladimir is Volodya. But he may as well call himself Slava, Misha, Pasha, or Sasha. They're all equally irrelevant.

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The story behind the whole "call me John" story is as simple as Kentucky. Back when the Sharks had a minor league affiliate there (Thoroughblades) alot of the fans n media had a tough time pronouncing Evgeni so he made it easy on em and told them to call him John.
But do you know why he picked John?

BTW did you just insult Kentucky? Great show, man.

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Not "allowed"? If you mean he's not allowed to play for Russia, the IIHF changed the rules so he actually can play for them now in international competitions.
That's what I meant, and I didn't know that had changed.

Good news for Russia for the World Cup.

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That's what I meant, and I didn't know that had changed.

Good news for Russia for the World Cup.
Yeah, he'll look good backing up Khabibulin

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He wouldn't be the first guy. I remember a defenseman on the Canucks awhile back who did it....sounded a bit strange when I had to create him in my video game: John Namestnikov (probably butchered the last name)

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There was a Smith or a Brown in the American revolution. Better check that one out, too. Don't forget Lopez in the Spanish Civil War.



Well Vlad isn't very Russian. The diminutive of Vladimir is Volodya. But he may as well call himself Slava, Misha, Pasha, or Sasha. They're all equally irrelevant.
This is a table of nicknames (common names used as a simple form )

M:

Alexandr = Sasha
Vladimir = Volodya
Aleksey = Alyosha
Evgeniy = Zhenya
Sergei = Seryozha
Mikhail = Misha
Vyacheslav = Slava
Vladislav = Vladik
Pavel = Pasha

W:

Natalia = Natasha
Olga = Olya
Irina = Ira (read: Eera)

etc.

There is no exceptions to this rule.

So parents and friends most definitely call Nabokov : Zhenya .

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He wouldn't be the first guy. I remember a defenseman on the Canucks awhile back who did it....sounded a bit strange when I had to create him in my video game: John Namestnikov (probably butchered the last name)
John Namestnikov(you spelled it correctly) is Slava Kozlov's brother-in-law.

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This is a table of nicknames (common names used as a simple form )

M:

Alexandr = Sasha
Vladimir = Volodya
Aleksey = Alyosha
Evgeniy = Zhenya
Sergei = Seryozha
Mikhail = Misha
Vyacheslav = Slava
Vladislav = Vladik
Pavel = Pasha

W:

Natalia = Natasha
Olga = Olya
Irina = Ira (read: Eera)

etc.

There is no exceptions to this rule.

So parents and friends most definitely call Nabokov : Zhenya .
There are also:

Elena = Lena
Natalya = Natasha
Tatiyana = Tanya
Maria = Masha
Svetlana = Sveta
Galina = Galya

Boris = Borya
Ivan = Vanya
Nikolai = Kolya


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Olga = Olya
That's my friend's name, except she spells it Olha. She's from Ukraine, though.

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Not "allowed"? If you mean he's not allowed to play for Russia, the IIHF changed the rules so he actually can play for them now in international competitions.
No its not. The WCOH is not an IIHF sanctioned event, so Nabokov can play for Russia.

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BTW did you just insult Kentucky? Great show, man.
I think that you can relax a little bit Mr. Jump the Gun. By reading his post it was Nabakov that said that to the Kentucky media, not the goalie named stonedkoala.

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