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06-10-2010, 05:21 PM
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Mittens did score 20 goals last year, so maybe he would garner a little interest? I don't know, but it's not as if we could pass him off as a great player, but he does kill penalties rather well. We could probably get him for a 3rd rounder at the deadline? (Or I can hope that we can)

What happens this summer will dictate heavily what we do at the deadline, I'm hoping Fletch will sell off a lot of players at the deadline if we're out of it. I can see it happening, but the only problem is we don't really have NHL-ready forwards to step right in. It will be an interesting summer, and we'll have to see how HCTR coaches for another year.

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Except Backstrom and Zidlicky have NTC's. And most of those guys have little to no value until the deadline. Who's going to want a year of Miettinen at $2.3m?
Get them to waive it or bury both in the minors.

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Why bury Backstrom and Zidlicky in the minors?

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Why bury Backstrom and Zidlicky in the minors?
I don't think they would end up being cap hits. We would have to pay them but they wouldn't be cap hits any longer ... IIRC.

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No way would a WILD owner want to bury that much salary in the minors.

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We have a ton of reasonable tradable pieces if people would stop being attached to players and let them go. Nolan comes to mind. But Brunette, Miettinen, Backstrom (if he waves his contract), Kobasew, Sheppard (junk for junk), Gillies, Burns, Zidlicky, could all be tradable.
Brunette and Burns, possibly Gillies are the only players out of that list I'd consider more tradeable than Schultz.

-The problem is trading Brunette in the offseason would probably piss off too many fans & definitely won't help with a Koivu extension.

-Trading Burns would be selling low right now, so unless he generates a great return, he's core.

- Gillies is probably available for the right price (which wouldn't be terribly high), but we don't have much in the way of prospects at forward.

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As for the others:

- Mittens could probably be traded to a team with cap room looking for 3rd line depth. Probably the same for Kobasew.

- Sheppard isn't going to return anything worthwhile.

- Good luck getting Backstrom to waive his NTC, then good luck trading his $6m salary.

- Zidlicky has a NTC for 1.5 years. See Backstrom.

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This makes Schultz one of the most likely to go. It'll be a lot easier to find a FA to bridge the gap between Schultz & the prospects on defense than it will be to further deplete Minnesota's razor thin depth up front.

I'm not attached to any player, just being realistic.


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No way would a WILD owner want to bury that much salary in the minors.
Yep, wishful thinking at its finest.

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It's not exactly like we're out going for the Cup next year, why buy out or bury players? Just let them play out the year and move them at the deadline.

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But why would we bury Backstrom and Zidlicky in the minors? It doesn't make sense to me, it's not as if they aren't good enough to play in the NHL?

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06-11-2010, 04:31 PM
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Get them to waive it or bury both in the minors.
There is this thing called the cap floor which Minnesota needs to be above.

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It's not exactly like we're out going for the Cup next year, why buy out or bury players? Just let them play out the year and move them at the deadline.
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There is this thing called the cap floor which Minnesota needs to be above.
10 million wouldn't be hard to recover.

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Another "Burns for pieces of Vancouver's team" proposal:

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To van: Brent Burns





To Min: Mason Raymond, Kevin Bieksa
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buddy are you kidding me? brent burns career high in points is 43, and bieksa's career high in points is 43 aswell. and in the past 2 years brent burns has only played 106 games when kevin bieksa has played 127. so, when you add raymond to the deal wow... more like it's over payment by the canucks

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For some stupid reason, I'm trying to... uh... reason with this guy.

He's so far off base, it's hilarious. I'm waiting for him to tell me how we actually need Bieksa...

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I knew that trade would make it in here.

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I bet that trade makes it in here again because it's the fourth time I've seen Burns for some combo of Raymond, Bieksa, Ellington and a 1st

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New candidate in the "Holy Overpayment Batman!" category:

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Koivu+9th pick+Harding

for

carter.

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New candidate in the "Holy Overpayment Batman!" category:
But on the flip side, 9th + Harding for Carter is laughable.

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Here's a new one:

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=787487

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this may really not happen, but let's try it


Brent Burns (or BoBO)
#9 overall


Brian Campbell
Kris Versteeg
1 of Nick Leddy OR Shawn Lalonde
#60 overall



I don't included Sharp, because this Deal is to keep him. Also Beach and Olsen won't get traded.

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Saw that as well. It's all sorts of yuck.

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Are people retarded to think that if you JUST traded a prospect like 3 months ago you probably are not wanting him back a month after the season is over? I don't get it honestly.

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Are people retarded to think that if you JUST traded a prospect like 3 months ago you probably are not wanting him back a month after the season is over? I don't get it honestly.
Plus Minnesota would love taking on nearly $7m in salary.

In summary:

1. Trade #9 pick
2. Take Leddy back
3. Take on $7m in salary

Sounds like a winner!

I'd have to scroll through the rest of this thread to refresh my memory, but this proposal has to be in the top 5.

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So going back to the Philly-Min one for Carter..........I have firm belief they are more delusional than Vancouver fans are with what their players

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I'd give it to Vancouver. Philadelphia overrates the values of a few players like most teams; however a fourth liner in Vancouver is always a viable trading piece.

Then again, neither hold any weight to Toronto. Everyone's worth a first rounder or two in the big T.

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The newer one isn't as bad but somehow makes less sense:
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Cam Barker
#9 overall

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Brian Campbell
Kris Versteeg
1 of Nick Leddy OR Shawn Lalonde
#30 overall

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The newer one isn't as bad but somehow makes less sense:
Wait a sec, so we're supposed to undo the Barker - Leddy/Johnsson trade (minus Johnsson), give up our first round pick, take on Campbell's GIANT salary, and all we get for it is Versteeg and what's basically a high 2nd round pick?

This doesn't make an ounce of sense to me. If our first round pick is involved, Sharp better be coming back.

I'm pretty sure I had an aneurysm reading through that.

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